Videos of my Kenmore 28102!

[joeypete]

Finally got around to making some videos of my new Kenmore 28102 (Cabrio). I know I've said it a million times but I absolutely LOVE this machine. I'm so impressed at how well it cleans. So far I've done 3 videos…1 showing the agitation of a load of whites, 1 showing the recirculating spray in action, and 1 showing the Deep Wash cycle which puts the washer in non-HE mode, filling with more water. It's nice to have that option!

 

[mrb627]

Ah...

So your machine uses the fisher paykel drive. That's why it is so quiet.

Malcolm

 

[joeypete]

Yes indeed it does!! It's very quiet. Especially during the spin cycle. On high it does 1100 rpm and it just sounds like a fan. lol. I was amazed.

 

[ea56]

Joe,
It looks like a really nice machine! I'm glad that you are happy with it. For a low water level the whites looked like they got plenty of action. And I like the recirculating action on the rinse. Thanks for sharing the videos.
Eddie

 

[joeypete]

Thanks Eddie! It does clean very well!! The recirculating water is actually part of the wash too. It has a catalyst wash effect. Very cool.

 

[mark_wpduet]

I was under te impression

that when HE TL washers first came out, you could not get deep wash or rinse, but someone said you always could with these? It looks like it does a good job, but why is the impeller blue in the first video?

 

[joeypete]

I'm not sure about the other WP HE models, but I think they have a deep wash too. I know the F&P has the ability to do HE and non-HE (at least the older ones). The Deep Wash in mine does mimic a regular top loader, minus the tall agitator of course. I wash my towels in that cycle too and they move around great. I think it helps to get the suds out better too.

The blue impeller is a Kenmore thing. Their Triple Action Agitator. It's pretty cool isn't it?! LOL. ;-)

 

[yogitunes]

I just put bearings and seals into a 2010 model.....

and comparing it to the belt drive, I like this direct drive a lot better....it does do a better job....odd as these wash systems seem, mine drains into a sink, the wash water is dirty, and the final rinse is clear....can't argue with that....

granted I don't have the Deep Wash cycle......it does add more water, and the sprayer is a nice addition with the wash action, just wished it would stay on, or come on more often....then again, I have not tried out all the cycles as of yet.....

one thing, after having a hard time getting the inner tub off of the shaft, I really greased the new shaft, as its important that tub slide up to float, I wonder if I should be taking that tub out at least every two years to prevent rusting and such......seems many videos of repairs complaining the reason for seal and bearing failure was because the detergents wear away the lubrication of that shaft.....just curious....

another thing that I am not buying with the new one with that triple action impellor is the water is supposed to be spraying up from under the impellor...doesn't appear in the videos of exposed holes of water shooting out, to me, seems more like a gimmick...

one last thing, I did take out the restrictor on the hot side, it allows for a warmer wash, otherwise warm was luke warm if even that.....granted my water heater is set at 160......for the most part, my first washes were hot, which was dubbed down to a really warm wash......your mileage may differ....

 

[joeypete]

You're da man!

Ok Martin, you're coming over when I need a repair! LOL. I certainly hope I don't have issues with mine. I have a 2 year warranty at least. We'll see!

I absolutely agree that the spray should stay on longer. It gives a good soak right before the wash portion. For several minutes, but it would be great if it did during the agitation too.

I actually did see some water squirt out of the holes on the agitator but I'm not sure if it is mechanical or if the water just squirts out because of the agitation. They really don't specify.

I don't use much hot water…but I have been more with this machine. The hot on my GE took FOREVER to fill so I didn't use it.

 

[appnut]

How are you able to run it with the lid up?  Is tap cold watr the only option for deep wash? 

 

[joeypete]

The lid bypass is very easy actually. Just need a magnet next to where the latch pops out…then when it pops out you have to just push it in slightly so the machine thinks it's closed.

Nope, you can use any water temp. I use tap cold on my darks so they don't fade. When you select a cycle, it defaults to the most ideal settings, but they are all changeable. Only certain times are you restricted from certain settings, but not often. It's pretty versatile.

 

[a440]

Very nice.

Your machine looks so well built and rugged compared to the other HE Top Loader videos I have seen on Youtube.

So quiet!

Do you have any videos of it spinning?  Does it do a spray rinse during the spin?

Thanks for the fun videos!

 

B

 

 

[mark_wpduet]

Am I missing something?

Because there are 3 videos of what I thought was the same washer, right? But the impeller in the first vid is blue, but the other vid it's white, and the 3rd I obviously can't tell. I do like the blue color better than the white.

 

[joeypete]

haha, Mark. I know it looks different. The videos came out awful I think. I used my iPhone5 but when they uploaded, the quality was bad. I dunno. It's all the same washer though. Just the lighting makes the impeller look white in some shot

Brent - I will make a video of it spinning! It does not use a spray rinse on the full spin. If you select a rinse without fabric softener it will do a spray rinse. That consists of the tub spinning slowly while the fill nozzle sprays water on the clothes. It then stops and sits for a minute, then drains the tub…and does that over again. I think it does it 3 times. If you select fabric softener, it will fill the tub full and use the recirculating spray too.

I does seem to be very well built. The Heavy Duty cycle is a beast…the basket moves around all over the place! It's very aggressive. I was using that for my towels, but I had to use very very little soap because it left a lot left…even after 3 rinses. The manual actually suggests the Deep Wash for towels anyway, so that's what I use.

 

[mark_wpduet]

LOL!

That's amazing cuz it's so blue in the first vid. I don't think the vid's came out bad, they look fine to me. Anyway, to be clear, this is made by Whirlpool, not LG for Kenmore, right? I'm guessing so because you have it labeled cabrio as well.

Regarding the quality, I thought the same thing about my new Maytag dishwasher I got last year. I was so sure as the years go by things would get cheaper and cheaper feeling, but it has a much more solid feel than the 2005 whirlpool I had.

Glad you like it. Now I recently watched a video on youtube of a guy washing a King Comforter in a cabrio (I think it was from 2015) and it wouldn't move it at all. But this was the BOL cabrio, so I don't know if that makes a difference. He did use deep water wash too, but that made no difference.

 

[joeypete]

Yes this is the Whirlpool Cabrio or the Maytag Bravos XL. The Kenmore got very good reviews on CR and Reviewed.com so that helped my decision…plus it's on clearance (even cheaper now for $499!). I love the blue impeller, it's so cool! The videos don't' look as clear as on my phone, but thank you…I'm glad they don't appear too bad.

I think with anything new these days you really have to shop around and look for good quality. It's not a given anymore like it was 30 years ago. Like for my dishwasher, I have always had GE but when I looked at the new ones, I didn't like how they felt. So I got a Frigidaire instead because it felt more solid. As did the Whirlpools….

I've seen his videos and he actually has the TOL version. I haven't washed my comforter yet but I have washed 3 queen blankets and the roll over was very slow. I think HE top loaders without an agitator are really iffy with big bulky items like that…even pillows. I washed mine and I had to turn them during the cycle. They just kind of jiggled and moved around. What saves it is the recirculating spray. Everything came out clean of course, but I think the spray really helps to give good wash coverage. FL's are awesome when it comes to bulky items.

I think next time with the pillows I'll just use a regular cycle instead of the Deep Wash. The higher water level actually was a detriment I believe, because the pillows floated to the top. Lower water level would keep them closer to the impeller and they might agitate more. I'll have to try it out.

 

[murando531]

I'm jealous of your Deep Wash cycle!!! That's the only feature Kenmore had over the Whirlpool and Maytag. But still, mine has yet to disappoint with the water levels it uses.

I'm thinking the "Triple Action Impeller" is just a marketing gimmick. Mine has holes in the same places as the one on yours, and when the water level is low, water will spurt up out of them. I would love to get one though because I love the blue! The blue impeller with the chrome MCT cap would look awesome in my machine.

 

[joeypete]

I'd love to see that impeller in your machine…I think it would look great too. lol.

Does the Bulky cycle on yours fill that much?? I just found it so odd that in my manual the cycle descriptions mention nothing about comforters or pillows. There's a Sheets cycle, but you have to conclude on your own to use the Deep Wash. Weird.

 

[murando531]

The Bulky cycle fills to a minimum of just above the halfway point in the tub. The most I've seen it fill is a little over 3/4. The agitation is very aggressive with 3-4 rotations each direction, which is why it's not good at all for anything but comforters and such. Even then it can sometimes lump the load to one side and then it has to correct itself, so I just keep my ear out for when it drains and monitor it, pausing it to adjust the blanket or whatever before it starts to spin. So far that is literally the only problem I have to keep an eye on, but more often than not it spins okay on its own.

I was hoping that the Colors/Towels cycle on mine would be a "Deep Wash" equivalent, but from what I've noticed it uses just a little more water than the other cycles and the agitation stays at the medium stroke, but doesn't fill anywhere near where your Deep Wash does.