estatesale_gary
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Saw this vintage Emerson window unit at a garage sale yesterday. I believe it’s early 60’s. Guy used it in his shed. Even had the manuals.
Vintage air conditioner sighting
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When I worked at Woolco in the early 70's we sold Emersons by the pallet loads on hot stinky nights. Folks would be coming in regularly up until 10pm closing carting them out.
Damn... wish I could get to that sale!!
EQC 4000 BTU Window A/C
Cute, looks to be in good condition, I guess the shed was not large if he cooled it with this A/C.
This A/C is about the lowest efficiency that A/Cs ever got to with an EER of only 5.2, these low efficiency A/Cs usually did not last that long because the condensers were so undersized and the compressors ran very hot and at fairly high head pressures.
The fan motors on these cheap A/Cs some times did not even have a run capacitor so they also ran really hot and fried the windings in the motor and ruined the oil in the bearings from the heat.
John L.
Cute, looks to be in good condition, I guess the shed was not large if he cooled it with this A/C.
This A/C is about the lowest efficiency that A/Cs ever got to with an EER of only 5.2, these low efficiency A/Cs usually did not last that long because the condensers were so undersized and the compressors ran very hot and at fairly high head pressures.
The fan motors on these cheap A/Cs some times did not even have a run capacitor so they also ran really hot and fried the windings in the motor and ruined the oil in the bearings from the heat.
John L.
EQC 4000 BTU Window A/C
Cute, looks to be in good condition, I guess the shed was not large if he cooled it with this A/C.
This A/C is about the lowest efficiency that A/Cs ever got to with an EER of only 5.2, these low efficiency A/Cs usually did not last that long because the condensers were so undersized and the compressors ran very hot and at fairly high head pressures.
The fan motors on these cheap A/Cs some times did not even have a run capacitor so they also ran really hot and fried the windings in the motor and ruined the oil in the bearings from the heat.
John L.
Cute, looks to be in good condition, I guess the shed was not large if he cooled it with this A/C.
This A/C is about the lowest efficiency that A/Cs ever got to with an EER of only 5.2, these low efficiency A/Cs usually did not last that long because the condensers were so undersized and the compressors ran very hot and at fairly high head pressures.
The fan motors on these cheap A/Cs some times did not even have a run capacitor so they also ran really hot and fried the windings in the motor and ruined the oil in the bearings from the heat.
John L.
norgeway
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Back when
Air conditioners actually blew cold air.
Air conditioners actually blew cold air.
You mean like this NOS behemoth? *LOL*
Growing up recall many homes had these big old air conditioners. They blew nice freezing air, but each time condenser powered up lights dimmed. *LOL*
When power up our Friedrich Wallmaster for first time this season am going to use instant read thermometer check how cold is air being thrown.
Growing up recall many homes had these big old air conditioners. They blew nice freezing air, but each time condenser powered up lights dimmed. *LOL*
When power up our Friedrich Wallmaster for first time this season am going to use instant read thermometer check how cold is air being thrown.
Reply #5, New Fredrich 24,000 BTU A/C
Very cool thanks for posting Laundress, This A/C is actually 1980, but very cool just the same, it is interesting to see young people explore older things and their comments and impressions of them.
John L.
Very cool thanks for posting Laundress, This A/C is actually 1980, but very cool just the same, it is interesting to see young people explore older things and their comments and impressions of them.
John L.
My school had eleven of a slightly older model of those (nine with electric heat) in out-building classrooms. May have been a larger capacity, did they go up to 36K BTU?
"This one goes to 11"
Wow. Friedrich was waaaaaay ahead of Spinal Tap with that claim!
Wow. Friedrich was waaaaaay ahead of Spinal Tap with that claim!
Check out That Air Condition Guy's channel on YT, he's got many models of EQK air conditioners.
Including this NIB 19,000 watt EQK
Including this NIB 19,000 watt EQK
@ Rely 7
Yes, there is a pretty wide world of various appliance collectors, and many of them are young people.
Same guy from that clip seems to collect all sorts of air conditioners even an EQK.
Just what was the "Watt Watcher" feature on EQK air conditioners anyway?
Like that they offered auto fan which am presuming cycles fan with compressor. Really disliked old units that left fan running when compressor was off, filling space with all that humidity from water inside unit.
Yes, there is a pretty wide world of various appliance collectors, and many of them are young people.
Same guy from that clip seems to collect all sorts of air conditioners even an EQK.
Just what was the "Watt Watcher" feature on EQK air conditioners anyway?
Like that they offered auto fan which am presuming cycles fan with compressor. Really disliked old units that left fan running when compressor was off, filling space with all that humidity from water inside unit.
A problem with energy-saver fans on window units is that the thermostat sensor is typically mounted to or near the evaporator coil so is thrown askew by the residual cold without continuing room airflow over it. Friedrich solved the issue by mounting a small resistor to the capillary tube (or to the bimetal on lower-end models) that provided a bit of heat when the unit cycled off to counteract the residual cold.
Electronic control units nowadays run the fan periodically during the compressor-off periods to help improve the temperature curve.
Yes....
My Friedrich Wallmaster when set to "power saver" cycles fan off with compressor.
Periodically fan will come on and if indoor temp is above what is set at thermostat soon compressor will cycle on as well. If all is good temp wise fan just cycles off...
Have a huge older Patton fan that run with AC on (or without as needed) to keep air circulating even if AC isn't on. IMHO it helps even temps by continuously moving air.
My Friedrich Wallmaster when set to "power saver" cycles fan off with compressor.
Periodically fan will come on and if indoor temp is above what is set at thermostat soon compressor will cycle on as well. If all is good temp wise fan just cycles off...
Have a huge older Patton fan that run with AC on (or without as needed) to keep air circulating even if AC isn't on. IMHO it helps even temps by continuously moving air.
It’s interesting to see those old units, as they’ve just never been a significant feature of life here. My only experience of them was installing a fairly cheap Kenmore unit into a sash window in Boston when I was there for a summer in university and finding what you’d probably describe as relatively cool Massachusetts nights absolutely unbearable lol
The ambient temperature here is air conditioned anyway. You’d almost need a little heat in parts of the summer, not air conditioning.
July and August are the warmest, with mean daily temperatures of 14 to 16 °C (57.2 to 60.8 °F) & mean daily maximums in July and August vary from 17 to 18 °C (62.6 to 64.4 °F) near the coast, to 19 to 20 °C (66.2 to 68.0 °F) inland.
You’d get the odd few days off maybe 25°C / 77°F.
The highest temp ever recorded in Ireland is 33°C / 91°F and that was in the 19th century!
You encounter some air conditioning in larger buildings and the odd cassette unit, but typically just not an issue. Heat pumps used here often are only a heat source too. So they typically heat underfloor heating or radiators.
The ambient temperature here is air conditioned anyway. You’d almost need a little heat in parts of the summer, not air conditioning.
July and August are the warmest, with mean daily temperatures of 14 to 16 °C (57.2 to 60.8 °F) & mean daily maximums in July and August vary from 17 to 18 °C (62.6 to 64.4 °F) near the coast, to 19 to 20 °C (66.2 to 68.0 °F) inland.
You’d get the odd few days off maybe 25°C / 77°F.
The highest temp ever recorded in Ireland is 33°C / 91°F and that was in the 19th century!
You encounter some air conditioning in larger buildings and the odd cassette unit, but typically just not an issue. Heat pumps used here often are only a heat source too. So they typically heat underfloor heating or radiators.
bschenof
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Vintage a/c
I'm a semi-retired real estate lawyer, but a vintage appliance lover as well, though not a collector.
I have (in my attic window) what I think is an incredible vintage a/c unit. It once cooled our finished attic (before we bought the house in 1979 from its original owner who built it in 1948), but I'm guessing it was purchased in the 1960s or possibly even before that. It has not been used since 1979 and probably not even during the the 1970s. I love the thing and want to find the right successor owner, someone who might get it up and running again for their personal use and/or collection, rather than for resale.
It is a York Snorkel model, contained entirely within the room. The window can open be closed completely when the unit is not in use. I believe it requires a 220 or so voltage circuit. Two relatively poor photos are attached. Needless to say they don't do it any justice whatsoever.
The unit is located in Chevy Chase, Maryland 20815
Does anyone have an idea or suggestion or any knowledge about the product and its vintage?
Thanks and best, Barry S.
I'm a semi-retired real estate lawyer, but a vintage appliance lover as well, though not a collector.
I have (in my attic window) what I think is an incredible vintage a/c unit. It once cooled our finished attic (before we bought the house in 1979 from its original owner who built it in 1948), but I'm guessing it was purchased in the 1960s or possibly even before that. It has not been used since 1979 and probably not even during the the 1970s. I love the thing and want to find the right successor owner, someone who might get it up and running again for their personal use and/or collection, rather than for resale.
It is a York Snorkel model, contained entirely within the room. The window can open be closed completely when the unit is not in use. I believe it requires a 220 or so voltage circuit. Two relatively poor photos are attached. Needless to say they don't do it any justice whatsoever.
The unit is located in Chevy Chase, Maryland 20815
Does anyone have an idea or suggestion or any knowledge about the product and its vintage?
Thanks and best, Barry S.
bschenof
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Vintage A/C - York Snorkel
I found the patent/patent application - issued February 12, 1957; applied for on March 7, 1956.
I found the patent/patent application - issued February 12, 1957; applied for on March 7, 1956.
viewsaver
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Wow, that's a rare survivor! I believe it was only manufactured for a few years, right around the same timeframe as the patent dates.
I've attached a link to Ken Horan's Tumblr page on vintage window air conditioners with "York" in the search and it mentions the "snorkel" unit in there. There is an enormous amount of information there on all vintage units.
Chris
I've attached a link to Ken Horan's Tumblr page on vintage window air conditioners with "York" in the search and it mentions the "snorkel" unit in there. There is an enormous amount of information there on all vintage units.
Chris
