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Hoover1060-Are you getting both the National and the WKSS5000? For 99 cents the National sure would be a good buy for a user as well as collector.Suppose the WK machine will be in your collection.I sort of gave up collecting disposals for now since about all I could find are USED ones or current models.Used ones can be pretty nasty.I can remember seeing the WK-Wards earleir machines in a Wards store near where I lived.It was a Brown and Gold color.Early 70's was the TOL machine.When I looked inside-had the cast shred ring and WK swivel hammers.Very nice machine.That makes sense Wards switching to Anehiem Machines in the later 80's was that about the time Anehiem acquired WK?
 
Tolivac,
I'm gonna pass on the National(well at this point I am) as I have the same model in the collection already. The SS5000 that I won will be #2 for the collection.
My exposure to Waste King was the same as it was for ISE. Somewhere someone my parents knew had a Wards disposer(or from my exposure to Wards Catalogs) I knew Waste King as Wards first, just as I knew ISE as Kenmore.
To the best of my memory all Waske King models had the cast grind ring, up into the early 80's, and then it was just the low end models to have the stamped ones. Waste Kings were expensive machines too, back in the late 70's the SS 5000 was a $150 machine, although the ISE 77 was more expensive yet.
I think Wards went to the Anaheim made models because Waste King just got too expensive.
Around here Waste King was widely available at hardware stores as well as the home centers, however they went away for a while and then re-appeared in the early 1990's with the plastic mount. The other brands that home centers sold was Emerson(ISE made) and Sinkmaster(Anaheim)..ISE appeared on store shelves here about 1992 at Builders Square.
Waste King was absorbed by Anaheim about the same time, for a while they used Waste King's designs, but it was not long before all Waste Kings were the Anaheim permanant magnet machines.
The one thing that Anaheim kept was Waste Kings three bolt mount, which they still use today on Waste King Custom series models and Whirlaway PRO models.
 
At this stage in my area disposers are getting boring-the stampted shredder Kenmores at Sears,The Similar ISE's at Lowes and Home Depot,I beleive Lowes also has the Anehiem GE's.There used to be a Builders Square in Manassas VA,but it was bought out and turned into a Home Depot.As far as it goes for disposers in my home-just use an older Vita-Mix-would do better than any of theose stampted shredder machines.I miss those quality WK machines.Their shred ring and hammer design was very effective.also they had the undercutters-no drain clogs from stringy waste-the undercutters slashed and sliced that up!!I don't think anyone has undercutters in their machines now excpet the Viking machines.also the older real Maytag disposers were pretty good.They also had undercutters.Disposer builders-please bring the undercutters back.
 
That is a VERY COOL vintage disposer collection!!

My favorites have to be the True Value and GE "Piranha" Disposall...the wild color scheme on the GE and the "fat" appearance of the True Value can't be beat!

My grandmother's disposal was very similar to the Wards disposer...large, except that it was all orange and had a strange brand...something with "Farm" or "Farmer's" in it. Could have been a sales or service tag though.
 
Hoover1060-Interesting collection of disposers. Used to have a GE Piranha-was a very effective and powerful machine-If you look at the shred ring in yours it should have the Carboloy cutter.That made those especially effective.Would decimate or shred about anything.The Whilrlpool "slender" machine is interesting-looks more like a deepwell submersable pump than a disposer.Good for those who have little room under the sink.Can't recognise the "Tru-Value" machine alongside the GE "Piranha".The Turquiose ISE is like the one I have-mine is a batch feeder-beleive its a Model#17.The start cap and switch are missing from it-like those have been missing for years.Too bad-would be a good machine if it worked.Its also seized up from the years of disuse.
 
identies

Westy,
Your Grandmother's disposal could well have been a Frigidaire...they were poppy red/orange and made by Waste King.

To Name everyone:
picture 1 - Whirlpool 1/2 hp basic model vintage 1978
GE Piranha 8000 rpm model. Yes it has the Carboloy cutter.
Tru-Valu - induction motor GE, middle 70's vintage. The outer shell is squishy foam!

Picture 2 - 1968 ISE 77
1972 Tappan 1/3 hp base model
1970 National 1/2 base model
1978 GE 8000 rpm model
1975 Hotpoint 8000rpm model
1974 Frigidaire base model...1/4hp!
1976 AO Smith(8000rpm GE)
Picture 3 - Monkey Wards Disposer 800, 1981
Waste King SS5000, 1986
Waste King SS3000, 1988
Waste King 2600, 1985
Pic 4 - Whirlaway PRO384 - NEW
Whirlpool "thru the sink" 1978
ISE CLASSIC 1/2 hp - 1982

The little Whirlpool is a high speed model too, and installs just as its name implies, thru the sink....Its a neat little machine, but would never survive in my kitchen.
If anyone wants detail pics, let me know and I will be happy to take them!
Jeff
 
Waste King SS5000

I bought a SS5000 about 11 years ago to replace a tiny off-brand builder-grade unit.

While it was very quiet (at first) compared to the old one, we were never all that happy with it, especially for the very high price we paid for it. The biggest problem (initially) was that the design of the splash guard allowed an air bubble to be trapped in the grind chamber and the sink to begin filling with water. We tried cutting the tips off of the splash guard petals and drilling holes in the rubber, but it still trapped air.

After about a year or so, it began to get noisy. After about 5 years it got very noisy PART of the time. The rest of the time it was just regular noisy. By 7 years, it was very noisy all of the time. Then the bearings began to fail. It vibrates so violently now that it is not really usable and I am shopping for a replacement.

This is a very poor performance for a $200 unit (store display claimed that it had a cast nickel grind chamber) that never chewed on a spoon or anything other than food and that serves only two people who eat out frequently.

YMMV.

E
 
SS5000

Drnano,
The unit you bought would have been made just after Anaheim absorbed what was left of "old" Waste King, and probably the tail end of the models made to Waste King's original design(the SS5000's design, with few changes, dates back to the late 1950's)
I had a childhood friend who lived a couple blocks away in a newer section of town, houses built in 1963. Their kitchen had all Waste King appliances, and I remember vividly how loud their disposer was at about 10 years old. For some reason the bearings detiorated very quickly, making them very loud!
I recommend a upper end ISE for a replacement, either the 777SS or 555SS. Both are very good chewers, and are whisper quiet.
 

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