cool in stainless, and that bottom knob is unique as well as the handle with the start button....
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ashame they don't make something like this today.....just unusual
not big on capacity, but seems efficient...and look at that spray arm.....
very clean looking.....but others would know more about one of these.....whats that little screen box in the silverware bin for?...detergent?
There doesn't appear to be any tines on the top basket so how is it supposed to be loaded?
Gary
Gary
<span style="font-size: medium;">Wow, looks just like the one Mark and I picked up last Saturday.</span>
william637
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That is a KD-14, and thanks to Martin, it is mine
THANK YOU AGAIN MARTIN!
The KD-14 was the last model to have the cast-iron spray arm. There were 3 models, the custom (which is what is pictured above), the imperial (which I have in shaded coffee brown), and the very first Superba Vari-Cycle. The imperial and superba models have a two-position upper rack. Those models also have a "control panel" as opposed to the solid slab door that is on this custom.
Martin, you are correct. The little stainless steel strainer is the detergent cup. That machine should be a water purge, then a 7 minute wash, followed by two rinses (each about a minute and a half). Each portion (purge, wash, rinse, and rinse) takes 2 1/3 gallons, approximately.
THANK YOU AGAIN MARTIN!
The KD-14 was the last model to have the cast-iron spray arm. There were 3 models, the custom (which is what is pictured above), the imperial (which I have in shaded coffee brown), and the very first Superba Vari-Cycle. The imperial and superba models have a two-position upper rack. Those models also have a "control panel" as opposed to the solid slab door that is on this custom.
Martin, you are correct. The little stainless steel strainer is the detergent cup. That machine should be a water purge, then a 7 minute wash, followed by two rinses (each about a minute and a half). Each portion (purge, wash, rinse, and rinse) takes 2 1/3 gallons, approximately.
Rick
go back a few post....Mark had me snatch this puppy up faster than....well, I can't say that in these parts...but apparently, Mark has me on speed-dial!...lol...what are we looking for next Mark?
what years were these models made, that gravity drain is new to me, never seen one in person....
and your not used to my curse of someone making a mention of a machine, and it 'pops' up around me.....
funny story of this exact machine, I was in this house for an estate sale, putting a bid in for it about 6 months ago.......thru my cousin, I know the children who were selling it, it didn't click until I pulled in the driveway.....it's a small world sometimes....
go back a few post....Mark had me snatch this puppy up faster than....well, I can't say that in these parts...but apparently, Mark has me on speed-dial!...lol...what are we looking for next Mark?
what years were these models made, that gravity drain is new to me, never seen one in person....
and your not used to my curse of someone making a mention of a machine, and it 'pops' up around me.....
funny story of this exact machine, I was in this house for an estate sale, putting a bid in for it about 6 months ago.......thru my cousin, I know the children who were selling it, it didn't click until I pulled in the driveway.....it's a small world sometimes....
norgeway
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Cast iron wash arm...
When you figure that about 50 gallons a minute of water is being sprayed thru that thing, you bet it will clean!
When you figure that about 50 gallons a minute of water is being sprayed thru that thing, you bet it will clean!
toploader55
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50 gal. per minute
Robert's KD-12
Robert's KD-12
I just got done watching the "Pimped 57 link"......
I'm speechless...my pacemaker has short circuited...and my mind has gone blank!!!
I wouldn't be able to walk away from that window if I were to be standing in front of it while it's running. I dare to think of what the consequences would be if you'd open that cyclonic machine while it's in mid cycle. You won't be dry!!!
I suspected that wash arm was to be reckoned with..... but O.M.G. that sucker could whip up a tornado in a flash. I'm surprised the dishes are still sitting in the racks. That wash arm must take five minutes to stop spinning when it shuts off!
I'm speechless...my pacemaker has short circuited...and my mind has gone blank!!!
I wouldn't be able to walk away from that window if I were to be standing in front of it while it's running. I dare to think of what the consequences would be if you'd open that cyclonic machine while it's in mid cycle. You won't be dry!!!
I suspected that wash arm was to be reckoned with..... but O.M.G. that sucker could whip up a tornado in a flash. I'm surprised the dishes are still sitting in the racks. That wash arm must take five minutes to stop spinning when it shuts off!
Congratulations!
Yes, that wash arm moved a lot of water, but the wash temp was low because that warm up spray did not do a lot to warm up everything. It did help warm up the cast iron pump. The best way to wash really dirty dishes and pans with this is to let it go through the wash and rinses then stop it and advance the timer around to the start position, add more detergent and let it run through the whole cycle. For dirty dishes fresh from the table, the single wash and double rinse do well.
Yes, that wash arm moved a lot of water, but the wash temp was low because that warm up spray did not do a lot to warm up everything. It did help warm up the cast iron pump. The best way to wash really dirty dishes and pans with this is to let it go through the wash and rinses then stop it and advance the timer around to the start position, add more detergent and let it run through the whole cycle. For dirty dishes fresh from the table, the single wash and double rinse do well.
Kitchenaid KDC-14
This was the last model KA that looked very much like their first home model, the KD-10. These were made from around 1961-1964.
They did need a good supply of really hot water [ this DW like every previous KA still had no water heater ] and they do not clean dried on and cooked on food the way new DWs do today, but they did move a sufficient amount of water through that cast iron wash-arm. The CI WA actually stops turning very quickly because of the friction between the CI and the Bakelite WA support and we actually did see the WAs and supports wear out on these DWs, KA never could build a really durable wash-arm and WA support.
This was the last model KA that looked very much like their first home model, the KD-10. These were made from around 1961-1964.
They did need a good supply of really hot water [ this DW like every previous KA still had no water heater ] and they do not clean dried on and cooked on food the way new DWs do today, but they did move a sufficient amount of water through that cast iron wash-arm. The CI WA actually stops turning very quickly because of the friction between the CI and the Bakelite WA support and we actually did see the WAs and supports wear out on these DWs, KA never could build a really durable wash-arm and WA support.
It's the same basic mechanicals as the portable version, which I have, a '58 KD-2P. That one works great, and yes there's a lot of water force. One has to be careful to batten down the hatches, so to speak. Plastic items will go flying. Once I ran it without the racks - the low pitched drumming of the unimpeded water jets on the lid was quite loud and carried a distance.
The upper basket is intended for cups and bowls, not for plates. Plates go in the lower rack.
The one pictured in this thread looks like a beauty - don't see them that often in stainless, and it appears to be in great shape.
Haven't run the KD-2P for at least a year. The hint about prewarming it by running an empty wash cycle is a good one.
I gave away an earlier white model of the front door version last year. It probably needed some work. I never did test it, but I think someone is happy to have it now.
The upper basket is intended for cups and bowls, not for plates. Plates go in the lower rack.
The one pictured in this thread looks like a beauty - don't see them that often in stainless, and it appears to be in great shape.
Haven't run the KD-2P for at least a year. The hint about prewarming it by running an empty wash cycle is a good one.
I gave away an earlier white model of the front door version last year. It probably needed some work. I never did test it, but I think someone is happy to have it now.
since there is a pre-rinse, an overflo port, and gravity drain.....plus no pressure switch...
with good water pressure, and a purged line, this should have a better advantage of preheating before the main wash.....
this thing is a beauty, if I didn't ask Mark first, I think I would keep it for myself.....I can't wait for him to get here, I want to hook it up just to see it run a few cycles...
take away the dry cycle.....but to run a few quick loads thru from breakfast or dinner....this works out to be about a 17 minute cycle.....I could live with something like this....
this falls along the lines of ApplianceLou's Kaiser top load machine.....you can run thru some loads quickly...and be done!
granted the disadvantages of capacity, or dried on foods.....you could adapt very easily...compared to most of todays machines taking an hour or longer....
with good water pressure, and a purged line, this should have a better advantage of preheating before the main wash.....
this thing is a beauty, if I didn't ask Mark first, I think I would keep it for myself.....I can't wait for him to get here, I want to hook it up just to see it run a few cycles...
take away the dry cycle.....but to run a few quick loads thru from breakfast or dinner....this works out to be about a 17 minute cycle.....I could live with something like this....
this falls along the lines of ApplianceLou's Kaiser top load machine.....you can run thru some loads quickly...and be done!
granted the disadvantages of capacity, or dried on foods.....you could adapt very easily...compared to most of todays machines taking an hour or longer....
If it works the same as the KD-2P, then the pre-rinse only fills the bottom of the tub - it doesn't spray water up into the racks. It's just to clear out any old dirty water in the sump, and I guess, pre-heat the pump and bottom of cabinet. It's perhaps also because there's no automatic detergent dispensing feature. A full spray pre-rinse would waste the detergent resting in the little strainer.
More modern machines with automatic detergent dispensers can do full spray pre-rinses.
More modern machines with automatic detergent dispensers can do full spray pre-rinses.
