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glamwales

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Hi All,

Word of warning here.. I have just had a new bathroom suite installed and hate my new taps .. dont want people to make the same mistake I did , so dont have central taps if u can help it !

Reason why - Have to be very careful adding hot water !!! around the groin area !

dont make my mistake , glam xx

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Moen shower valves.

Moen makes the best shower valve I have ever used. First, it has an anti-scald feature. Second, it has 2 knobs: one for temperature, and the other for pressure. I can now adjust 1 without accidentally changing the other, even a little bit.

Why was this developed recently, why not 50 years ago?
Dave
 
Valves

My partner and I are in the beginning research stages of a bathroom remodel. It seems the only valves out there anymore are the single handle type like you find in hotels, where you have to rotate the handle all the way around past the "cold" section to get your hot water, and there is no pressure adjustment. You get what you get. This is NOT what I want to have in my new tub/shower. I'm thinking I may have to remain old school with two separate knobs. I'm going to look into that Moen one that allows you to adjust pressure. I think one of my buds may have that type.

Dave, other than the scalding protection, ALL single handle valves used to allow one to adjust both the temp and the pressure. Why they abandoned that I don't know, but it stinks pretty strong of state or federal idiot-proofing regulations.
 
Hehehehehehe , I should point out ive not burned anything - but the whole family have had some close calls. It did not occur to me at the time and since most bathroom displays seem to have centered taps i just thought id drop a note to warn. Its my Health and Safety Training ! coming out :)
 
Out shower has a single knob faucet that is centered for warm, then you turn it left or right for hot or cold. You don't have to go thru cold to get to hot.
We've had jacuzzi(whirlpool) tubs in our last few homes. We love them. When you come home all stressed out, make a drink and get in a nice hot swirling tub of water. You'll feel the stress just disappear.
 
Hmmm. Never thought of that. My favorite part of bathtime is running the hot water half way through, which gets the feet toasty and is probably theraputic. Then sloshing the water around to distribute the heat. Mostly, though I shower. Don't care much for the wide low ribbed pink rectangular tub in the old bath. One of these days I'd like to get a cast iron clawfoot with sloping back... those I think are the most comfortable for a long soak. I don't understand why more built-in rectangular tubs aren't deeper with sloping backs.

Favorite hotel bath was in Japan. The entire bathroom was like one big tub, with a floor drain so no worry about spills. The tub itself wasn't very long, but was very deep. And of course the water pressure was very strong and the water piping hot.
 
Rich,

Kohler made some nice large built-in tubs with sloped backs, probably in the 70's and maybe they continued to make them for a while after that. I saw one for free on Craig's List recently but they are wider than your standard tub and I think the presumption with this type of tub is that one has a separate shower stall. At least that was the situation in the posh Saratoga home where I have seen and used this arrangement.

Don't know if you're after an older look with a clawfoot tub but if not, there are modern alternatives that provide the sloped back you want.

As a hot tub owner, I almost never use the bathtub in our house.
 
I often read and enjoy these discussion threads. I want to second what Volvoguy87 wrote above. We've had that Moen
ExactTemp for a few years, and it still works perfectly. Every time I step into the shower, I appreciate its technology. I wrote a Hub about it because I like it so much. rp2813, I hope you get the Moen valve.


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Once you have filled the tub, you could place a piece of clear plastic tubing on the faucet. It should be long enough to reach the tub bottom near the end where your feet are. Then when you add hot water you won't get burned.
 
The baths in our house have those Grohe thermostatic valves too. They're great! You just set the temperature in Degrees C on one side and the pressure / shower selector is on the other side.

Simple, yet very effective.

You can't scald yourself and the temp. is always perfect.

The bathrooms in our house are all fed by the UK/Ireland style gravity system i.e. there's a large tank in the attic that's filled by the mains.

To improve the pressure we've a double-head booster pump feeding the baths. It's activated anytime water flows, so you get a really powerful shower.
It provides it with 4.0 bars perfectly balanced on hot and cold.

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I used a similar whirlpool tub in a hotel I stayed at, and YES! you are DEFINITELY right on the placement of the faucet!

I got in the tub while it was still filling, and was "battered" by the water! I got back out the tub, and waited for it to finish filling.

The thing that amazes me about these whirlpool tubes is the insane amount of water these things go through!!! I imagine it must be well over 100 gallons per fillup. I almost always take showers, and use under 30 gallons to shower (water heater is 30 gallons and it never has ever run out on me!) In my camper, it has a 30 gallon water storage tank, and I can get about 3 showers out of it, plus some dish-washing, and hand washing. I know in hot-tubs, the water stays in the tank between uses, like in a swimming pool. Do you guys that have these style tubs keep them filled, or fill & drain with each use?
 

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