Warning to those using Tide HE TurboClean liquid in their HE washers

[yogitunes]

actually surprised more don't have this sort of magic mix dispenser installed.....

one thing I really like on the Calypso and Catalyst machines is mixing of detergent and water stirred into a lather, then spread over the load...concentrated cleaning before the wash action begins....

 

[frigilux]

Malcolm-- The Maytag 8100 has an insert cup to hold liquid detergent for single doses and I agree it's much better than some of the dispensers on other machines. No leakage/seepage.

Yogitunes-- The auto-dispense system on the Maytag does the same; it mixes the detergent with water and sprays it over the load as it fills. You can see the sudsy spray saturating the clothes. The Cold Wash cycle goes one better, dispensing all the detergent in a very small amount of water and tumbling for about 15 minutes. Then it adds the remaining water and begins the wash cycle. Kind of like Kelvinator's Magic Minute.

 

[ilovewindex]

I just watched my Samsung mix it with water and spray it out.... I never really paid attetntion to it before... Mine has never gunked up and I've used all kinds of soaps in it, except Tide...

 

[combo52]

Detergent Left In Dispenser Housings

This is the biggest NON-PROBLEM I have heard of. WE have never done a service call for this problem, And I have never seen a washer in the field where this was causing a problem. First of all if there in a build-up of detergent in any part of a washer it is very easy to remove, detergent desolves very quickly and easily with a little hot water [ fabric softener build-up is a different matter ].

 

Liquid Tide is an excellent product, it will not cause more bearing failures that cheaper brand detergents, I would love to see someone prove that.

 

If you want to add detergent directly to the washer either poor it directly on the clothing or wait till the washer finishing filling because if the washer has an electric drain pump whether TL or FL machine the liquid detergent can run down into the sump where it may stay till the washer drains.

 

Again I have never seen a washer that had a build-up of either powered or liquid detergent anywhere water is. The only service call we ever did where detergent build-up caused a problem was on a early 80s WP BD TL washer, where the customer said the washer was doing everything except spinning. It turned out that they were so sloppy when adding powered detergent to the washer that detergent was built up so heavily on the top of the washer that the lid could not close enough to activate the lid switch, I took a putty knife and scraped away enough dried detergent so the lid would close again, LOL.

 

John L.

 

[imperial70]

I've been using tide liquid HE Turbo in my GE PFWS4600LWW washer for about  6 months now.  This machine has an insert for liquid detergent. I never have any problem with residue in the detergent chute. Not sure how detergent could get to the front of the chute.  You close the drawer and the detergent is no where near that area. Very interesting phenomenon. Wouldn't it just slide down the chute with the water that is mixed with it?

Seems there is some type of over flow condition (man-made or otherwise?)

 

 

[whirlykenmore78]

To add to what John said:

As he is right on. If this was truly a problem then EVERY FL IN EVERY LAUNDROMAT MADE IN THE LAST 30+ years would have gunked up and failed due to liquid Tide! BTW my machine does not have or need a clean washer cycle and I have NO build-up. When you build them right such wasteful bull$hit is not needed.
WK78

 

[norgechef]

Common sense would tell you the thicker a detergent, the more it has the potential to build up. And, the issue is not that the detergent is building up in the dispenser, but rather that it might be building up in other parts of the machine if it builds up like this in the dispenser. I was previously unaware that the detergent that runs out of the dispenser before the drawer gets pushed in is not rinsed away.

I would not be able to prove that Tide is more corrosive than other detergents, I simply believe this since friends and family members that use Tide regularly, seem to have more issues with their machines, mainly bearing/seal failures. If Tide detergent is not being rinsed away completely by the final rinse, which I have proven, then it would surely have the potential to build up over time, would it not?

I also notice most people who use Tide often have that musky ''Tide'' odor in their machines which is a dead give away that it is their primary detergent.

In my opinion, I don't believe it would be completely safe to use, in terms of build up over a long period of time, that is all. I no longer have the desire to use Tide either way since most scents of Tide AND Downy have been completely altered and smell nothing like the original. The scents seem to be getting stronger and stronger, and more different from the original with each new version.

 

[DADoES]

 
A properly designed dispenser nowadays (last 10-ish years) has a cup insert or a "dam" set in place when liquid detergent is used to prevent it from running out until the fill water begins flowing into the cup to overflow/flush it.  I suppose some machines (older models?) perhaps are designed differently?

 

[logixx]

I removed the "dam" insert from my Duet. All it did was to allow the detergent to slowly leak out and drip onto the door and gasket until the water came in - and then it never got washed off.

 

[pierreandreply4]

norgechef

I use tide he turbo clean but I use the powder version or tabs this is the one I use but the 120 wash load format

 

[iheartmaytag]

Tide Corrosiveness

Years ago a neighbor, an Amway dealer, was telling my mother how corrosive Tide was, how it would damage her washer yadda--yadda.

 

So she set out to demonstrate to my mom by putting a cup of Tide in a quart mason jar, and a cup of Amway in another jar.  She filled to about two inches from the top with hot water and put in each jar a wad of steel wool.   Shaking them all together to mix it all up as if agitating.

 

Then the idea was to let them sit and show how Tide would eat away at the steel.  Two weeks later the steel wool was gone all but debris, in the Amway jar.  The Tide jar the steel wool was still intact.   

 

Now this was powders, as there were few liquid detergents save Era or Wisk at that time.  I believe that Tide powders  used to have an ingredient listed "to protect washer parts"  I haven't read the ingredients lately, don't know if they still list or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[murando531]

Honestly I don't trust cheaper detergents over P&G detergents, and now Persil. I've had more issues from using All or Arm&Hammer and the like than anything else, not only with their crappy cleaning performance but the odors the leave in machines. My Papaw solely used Purex liquid in their FilterFlo, and the amount of gunk that would be around the recirculating port was disgusting. I convinced him to use a box of Gain powder I bought him, for a month, and before he used it, I gave his machine an "Andrew-Finesse", and scrubbed every nook and cranny with toothbrushes and toothpicks. And for that month or so after, there was barely any grime at all even around basket water line. Switched back to Purex because he wanted to "support the little guys at Dollar General", and once again, not long before a musty smell in the machine and gunk around the recirculator and inside the rubber lip of the cabinet.

I won't dare use budget detergents in my BravOasis, knowing how crucial it is for there to be no buildup on the floating basket's shaft, and so far, a year and two months with this machine, nary a splotch of residue or even the slightest whiff of odor to be found.