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timborow

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Ok, after 4 years our GE Front Loader was finally deemed too costly to fix by the repairman after 6 service calls. I really want a good, dependable top loader that will last. I really like vintage but don't know if they should be daily drivers for a family of 4. The used appliance stores around here have lots of Kenmores and GEs. I have found a Maytag Dependable Care that is almond with a turquoise agitator. It has the matching dryer. I think it is a belt drive machine. What kind of advice would you guys give? Would the Maytag still have available parts of something broke? Should I look for a later model direct drive? Which ones should I stay away from? I know I will get good advice from this forum.
Tim
 
Hi Timborow. Fire me off an e-mail to qualin@n0$pam.shaw.ca (Delete n0$pam)

I've fired off a few e-mails to other people on this forum asking this very same question, so I'll be quite happy to fire off a copy of that e-mail to you.

Why not go with another front loader if reliability isn't an issue?

As well, it may help the other forum members out if you mention what your budget is.

I don't think I would ever use a vintage machine as a daily driver. That's kind of like buying a 1957 Chevy Bel Air and using it to drive to work every morning.

Regardless, I did my research before I bought my washer and dryer so I know I bought the best. I prefer to preach in private. :-)

Regardless, I look forward to getting your e-mail!
 
Qualin

Sent you an email. Not really limited to a budget but I'm not sure I want another FL. I just think the best option for a TL is used not new. I've heard bad things about new TL.

Tim
 
theres no guessing about it...............

two words........

SPEED QUEEN

and it doesn't matter if you go with a TL or FL.....a little more money.....but built better, better warranty, better washing results hands down!

these machines are not considered disposable in a few years....you would be foolish to think otherwise......
 
SPEED QUEEN.........................

Buy new for a family of four.
Buy Speed Queen
Top Loaders or Fornt Loaders
Everyone knowledgable on this site will give you the same answer.
Buy now before even more stringent water restrictions take effect.
SQ...
1.BUILT IN AMERICA, RIPON WISC.
2.LONGEST WARRANTY IN THE INDUSTRY
3.COMMERCIAL QUALITY CONSTRUCTION
4.BUILT TO LAST (ACCORDING TO SQ - 25 YEARS)
5. USED IN COMMERCIAL LAUNDRIES ALL OVER THE WORLD
6. GO TO WWW.SPEEDQUEEN.COM CLICK ON HOME LAUNDRY/PRODUCTS
GET YOURSELF THE BEST, MOST RELIABLE WASHERS ON THE MARKET

BUY ONCE, BUY RIGHT!!

I bought tow sets, one for me, the other for my mother AWN542 and the matching dryer.
Best of luck,
Mike
 
Speed Queen

Looking for a SQ dealer in my area. Nearest one is in Alabama. I can order on line I guess but I'm guessing shipping would be unreal. Going to check with Lowes to see if they can order them.

Tim
 
On Line

AJ Madison sells online and free shipping if order is above $999.   As I've never purchased from them personally, I can't endorse, but would consider as some of the reviews I've read appear positive.  They do carry Speed Queen products.  Of course, I'd prefer a local dealer because I believe in supporting local, but if an item I wanted was not available locally, online would be my next approach.
 
Hey Tim. I tried sending an e-mail to your Yahoo account and it bounced. I didn't receive your e-mail so you must have spelt my e-mail address incorrectly. Try using "qualin (at) nospam.shaw.ca" and eliminate the nospam part.

Don't let the prices on the Speed Queen's scare you. They really are built to last and you will get your money's worth out of them.

Their top loaders are as close to a conventional top loader as you can get. Actually, I think the design behind them dates back to 1982, so they are a fairly tried, tested and true design that just works. Not to mention, they're one of the last manufacturers that still make them with a mechanical timer, so they're immune to things like power surges, etc.

I actually own a Huebsch ZFN50R, which is equivalent to a Speed Queen AFN50R I believe. I'm quite happy with it, it does a great job. (It has an electronic timer BTW)

A few things I noticed about my Huebsch as compared to other front loaders:
- The tub lifters are made from steel and integrated into the tub, as opposed to other manufacturers which use plastic screwed in lifters.
- The controls feel like they're rock solid. No wobbly cheap knobs or buttons.
- Has a really fast 40 minute cycle. (45 with extra rinse) Other front loaders wash the clothes in double or even triple the time.
- It is VERY effective. It gets our clothes much cleaner than our GE TL machine.

If there's a few things I dislike about it so far:
- We've noticed it can get quite noisy on the spin cycle.
- No ability to set the water level from the console, so washing things like comforters require another wash.
- You need a special tool if you want to remove the detergent drawer.

My Huebsch FL set me back $1900, which is in the range of Asko, Miele and very TOL machines. But let me put it to you this way..

Miele is considered to to make some of the most reliable machines ever made, their QA Team tests their machines for 10,000 cycles. This is not the norm in the industry. From what I've heard, most other domestic machines only last around 3,500 cycles.

Miele sells the "IntelliQ 200" up here which equates to the W4842 in the states, it was nearly $600 more than the Huebsch here.

Alliance Laundry Systems, (Who makes Speed Queen and Huebsch) tests their machines to 25,000 cycles! In other words, what they sell is designed to be used in a light commercial environment, so they're designed differently from a domestic machine.

Alternatively, you may also want to consider the Miele W4842 if you want more cycle flexibility. The disadvantage to Miele though is that they only have one service channel and worst case scenario is that if it does break down, you could be waiting on parts to be shipped from Europe.

Just thought I'd mention, Speed Queen Top loaders and Front Loaders have a 3.3 cu.ft tub, The Miele W4842 has a 4.0 cu.ft tub. I don't think you'd notice the difference, in all honesty.

Is your machine going to be sitting on a second floor or a wooden floor?
 
Qualin

Thanks for the info. The email I sent you didn't go through either. Our laundry is on the first floor. It is on a wooden floor. Try [email protected]. Waiting on a call back from a store to see if they can order SQ.
Tim
 
Speed Queen

You may want to contact Speed Queen directly for their recommendation on where to purchase online.

I think there was a company in New Jersey that was selling via eBay with free shipping. Could be an option.

Malcolm
 
Maytag Legacy

No luck on Speed Queen here and we HAVE to get a washer. I found a Maytag Legaxy washer/ dryer set for $400. It is a belt drive machine and very clean. Is this the line of bad Maytags or is a true made in USA Maytag? Stay away or not?
I know everyone has said Speed Queen, but I'm just not comfortable buying something that big on line without ever seeing it, and we can't wait any longer to get a washer. My wife is ready to get this done.

Tim
 
True Maytag Washer/Dryer: L washer and M dryer model #s

As far as I know, the easiest way to tell if a mid '90s and newer Maytag is the "real" deal is to look at the model number. If the number starts with an "L" it is a real Maytag. I think they all used the nylon ball lid hinges and had metal inner and outer washtubs too. "M" and "P" model numbers were Norge if memory serves and "S" was Amana. I may not have that quite right, but if you stick to "L" model numbers you should be OK.

I think the true Maytag dryers all had a model number that started with "M" during this period.

The model names from roughly 1995-2006 can't be trusted as I believe most "Maytag Performa" washers were Norge or Amana based machines but I remember seeing at least one that was actually a "true" Maytag. Overall I have heard that the Norge-type machines are somewhat OK and the Amana machines do not last and should be avoided.
 
Thanks for the info.

I should have gotten the model numbers. We didn't buy them today, but had planned to go back and get them tomorrow. I'll check the letters. This helps so much.
Tim
 
USED MT TOP LOAD WASHER DESIGNS

Look at the bottom of the machine, if it has two belts it is a real MT Dependable Care machine, if it has no visible belt it is an Amana design and if it has one belt its a Norge design. I would only consider the real MT and even then a WP built DD washer will do a better job and is also more reliable and easier to repair.
 
Buying on-line OR in-store........I know we like to see products up close.....but the bottom line is you can't see them work until you get them home....no one has units hooked up in the stores anymore....and that would be the only difference....

if you have to choose models, sight unseen.....either select features you may use most.......or go with their TOL AWN542......every feature and option available....and the combinations are endless......buy this one and never regret getting extra options.....or wishing you had them......

even this link for Appliance Connection.......many discounts, FREE shipping, no Tax....plus easy returns if your not happy....worth a shot to check into.....

AJMadison is another one with great deals.....

 
OK, I've got to caution you about the Speed Queen Front Loaders.

They don't have a vibration reduction system, so when they go into spin, you will hear it and feel it. They work best on a concrete floor.

You should consider going with a top loader, which won't be as prone to as much vibration or you could consider other brands. (Speed Queen Top Loaders have an automatic balancing system.)

If I was going to pick a brand other than Speed Queen, I'd either choose Miele, Asko or if budget was an issue, LG or Samsung. (LG seems to be higher quality up here.) I'm sure some of the other forum members would disagree.

I wouldn't trust the Maytag name these days. Looking at the various Maytag machines, they look like rebadged Whirlpool machines to me.

You STILL haven't mentioned what your budget is, but I can tell you that $400 doesn't really get you much. Save your pennies if you can and prepare to spend at least $2000 on a set which will last. You won't regret it.
 

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