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Just watched this stupid report of household item's shelf life and they are stating the vacuums have a 7 year shelf life and washers 10 years.  after that they should be discarded.  Good to know isn't it...

 

Check it out for the sheer stupidity.  The good stuff starts at 2:25 or so.

 
ROFL!!

Hehe the LG appliances in the article will be in the landfill well before the 10-11 yr"shelf life"expires...My 1950s Electrolux vac just seems to keep on working :)Perhaps newer appliances have a "death chip"so they will drop dead after X amount of time or operations has been completed LOL
 
How stupid! I have plenty of vacuums that are well past their "expiration date" that still work better than any vacuum you can buy at walmart. Our household appliances are all at least 10 years old, with the majority being ~25, and all are working fine. Maybe new appliances expire, but a 1957 Kirby doesn't have an expiration date.
 
(snicker)
bottom line-

"Please people spend money on NEW items. Corporatists are counting on you. Don't care for your items and hold onto them like your grand parents did. No, add to the landfills, that also creates jobs. Yes, the only thing that counts in the U.S. is money. That's it."

I hate corrupt corporatist republicans. Anything I can do to piss on them....

And talk about skewing the data.  That is another form of corruption.

An expected life cycle of an appliance <span style="text-decoration: underline;">IS NOT</span>  the same thing as an expiration date. 

 

A gallon of unopened milk from April 2012 sold on Ebay for $______(unsold)(food expires whether you use it or not)

a Brand new, opened box, Electrolux Silverado from 1982  sells on Ebay for $______(probably around $400)(mechanical equipment does not expire, it wears at different rates depending on situation)

 

God I hate republicans.  Speaking of expired.... 
 
Dell laptop batteries have a death chip, set to expire within weeks of when the warranty runs out. The 'smart' battery chip definitely has the code to allow this, and from consistent customer complaints, the Dell BIOS is using that code plus its own internal calendar to implement it.

I can't play youtubes. By 'shelf life' do they mean the time the appliance is expected to fail regardless how or how much it's used?

All engineered products have a MTBF, mean time before/between failures. The generally accepted number circa 2000 was 50,000 hours of operation, roughly 7 years nonstop. Some components are still rated at 50K but what they don't tell you is that cost reducing them broadened the MTBF bellcurve and the estimate can vary wildly from what the buyer experiences.

Above paragraph applies in particular to diskdrives, broadly to most things except frangibles like batteries, drivebelts, and probably not to laundry equipment but should apply to more passive appliances like stoves. We know that certain major components like drum bearings and compressors can now be expected to fail much sooner, half or 1/4th as long.
 
This is a STUPID article and film clip.Items such as vacuums-of course???depends on the CARE given to it by the user-same with any other appliances.Compressors-at least hermetic refrigeration units actually WEAR IN-before wearing out.Explains how some of these have been going for up to several DECADES!!!On one of my other hobbies-guns and ammo-Ammo can last INDEFINTLY if stored under "human" conditions-not in a hot attic or cold garage.Same with guns and many other mechanical items.Bearings--if properly lubed,packed,and sealed again can last for up to a few DECADES!!!At where I work-there are motors here that are 60+ years old-Allis Chalmers 20Hp 3450 RPM 230V 3ph pump motors that run like new!They do get regularly greased.Part of our maintenance routine.
 
"Dell laptop batteries have a death chip, set to expire within weeks of when the warranty runs out. The 'smart' battery chip definitely has the code to allow this, and from consistent customer complaints, the Dell BIOS is using that code plus its own internal calendar to implement it."

This is blatantly false, there is nothing intentionally built inside the battery to cause it to fail. Have you have seen any actual proof to back up such a claim? I personally know if at least a dozen late model Dell laptops that are running fine with batteries that are out of warranty for a year or more.

It is certainly true that the single most failure prone part of a laptop is indeed the battery. As consumers require yet smaller and lighter machines with far more power and runtime something has to give. The Lithium Polymer battery is an amazing thing but it comes with a price. Due to density they have heat problems (ask Boeing!) and to help protect the pack they have internal "smart" electronics to control their charging to protect the individual cells.

To think that Dell intentionally set the packs to fail stinks of paranoid ramblings you read on comments from jaded consumers on the Internet...
 
ammo shelf life:

to last indefinitely, needs to be stored in airtight containers with dessicants, and needs to be corrosive type, that's why older military stuff that's still usable is almost always corrosive. '60s era Russian military 440 round tins we buy in 7.62 x 54 for our Mosins and 7.62 x 39 for the AKs and SKS, is always corrosive, and even that isn't foolproof. We recently got 1000 round tins of 1940/50s Turkish ammo and 1 out of 5 were duds, so we pulled 'em apart for bullets. My sons & I love target & clay shooting so spend lots of time at the range and go through a lot of ammo. Primers in particular are sensitive. Some of those wacko prepper nuts that have bought 1000s and 1000s of round are going to find out that they have a lot of useless stuff unless they stored it right. The 30.06 ammo we used with M1 s in ROTC back in the '60s was Korean War era, but again was stored right
 
what a load of !"£$%^&*

i have a washer which is 33 years old, one being 31 years old, one being 25, 13, 12, a dryer which is 17 years old, the other 11, 2 kirbys being 32, and 23, they ALL still work fine, its because people dont look after them and clean the areas that should be scheduled, filters, doorseals etc! thats why they dont perform aswell!
this kind of stuff sends me nuts!
phil
 
This Is Nothing New:

Way, way back in the Dark Ages of the late 1950's, there was an uproar created by social critic Vance Packard, who wrote several books on consumerism and consumer manipulation, including The Hidden Persuaders (1957) and The Waste Makers (1960); several of them were best-sellers in that more socially-conscious age.

In The Waste Makers, Packard exposed the manipulations of product quality that were already beginning to shorten the life of durable goods, and also exposed the latest buzzword among America's manufacturing companies, "planned obsolescence." His books caused something of a furor; some corporations responded by curbing some of their worst excesses, like the shoddy cars turned out in the 1957-1959 time frame; there's a big quality difference between a 1957 Ford and a 1960 model. The most upsetting thing for Packard's readers was finding out that corporations were consciously and cynically shortening product lifespans to increase sales potential - that "planned obsolescence" concept.

Obviously, "planned obsolescence" never really went away, and it's very much back in style today. Anyone who wants a good look at the beginning of Corporate America's slide into mediocrity and abuse of consumers would do well to locate The Waste Makers and give it a read.

When you read it, remember that the compromised durable goods Packard warned readers about are the same ones many of us collect; what is of incredibly high quality today was seen as shoddy in its time - which some of it was; there were too many breakdown-prone gizmos on many late-'50s appliances, and quality cuts like the millimicron-thick paint of Westinghouse appliances of the era plague restorers today.

It's nothing new, folks. But not even Vance Packard saw what was coming with offshore manufacture and cheap ABS plastics.
 
Some of the stuff

I AGREE with throwing away.........but the vacuum........The washer..........The dishwasher? If those items are taken care of, that's ridiculous!! I wonder HOW many people who SAW that Inside Edition report will literally throw their vacuum or dishwasher/washer out and get a new one! ??
 
"non corrosive" ammo will last as long as the "corrosive" types.Just so long they are stored in temp and humidity controlled areas-it will last.Just be sure to clean your gun after firing corrosive ammo out of it.The primers in corrosive ammo release potassium chloride--which will corrode the gun unless cleaned with hot,soapy water-Hoppes#9 and other gun cleaner solvents won't remove the chloride residue.Remember many days after shooting corrosive surplus ammo and sitting in front of the TV and pumping the hot,soapy water thru the barrel from a dishpan on the floor.You use your cleaning rod and lots of cotton cleaning patches.That works best.Some older ammo used mercuric primers-this could release mercury into the gun barrel and action upon firing.Not so much harm to the gun--but to the "brass" if you were a reloader.The mercury residue in the cases weakened the brass.This sort of ammo is of more interest to collectors than shooters-have some of it in my collection.With ammo being a hot commodity today-esp .22 LR,9mm,.223/5.56MM-ammo is becoming an investment-some people that don't own guns or shoot are even buying it!I so remember the days when a 500 Rd brick of .22LR was only a few bucks-now its between $30-60!-and if you can get it.Its now cheaper to shoot .308 or even .30-06 than .22.I stock up whenever I can and the price is good.Most of the time the ammo cabinet at Wal-Mart is empty!!!Esp now becuase of deer&bear season here.A coworker and his son took a 350lb bear that was knocking over their deerstand-now its going to be bear meat and a rug.2 shots from a .308 took it.
7.62X39 is especially fun to shoot-a freind who doesn't usually shoot loved it!!One day bought a case of 7.62X39 from a gunshow and fired off the whole case that afternoon!Then there was the above cleaning session.Now that sandpit where I and my freinds used to shoot is a housing development.The owners of the pit didn't mind us shooting whiule they harvested sand and gravel-in fact they often joined right in!
 
Blatantly false eh, kbones?

Have you forgotten I was an engineer for Dell? I can and have read what the smartbatt chip can report and what it can be told to do by BIOS. I'm not even a coder but I could write the code to tell your laptop batt to refuse charge. The firmware most assuredly can falsify hardware failures for the sake of selling expensive proprietary batteries. And Dell is most assuredly not above invoking that ability.

"Late model"? When the programmed failures became evident, Dell most likely removed that code before it was widely proven. I recall that more than one engineer removed the Dell cells that BIOS claimed defective, installed them in another platform, and they worked fine. But I can't recall 'who' demonstrated that, so to you I will forever remain a paranoid rambler. Well that's better than being a paranoid Pacer.

Or Is It? [smirk]
 
I had a new Dell laptop.

It was OK for a 8 months, but you couldn't get reload discs for it.

 

So I sold it. 

 

Will never buy a Dell computer again.

 

If this is how Dell plays.... don't want to support corruption.
 
Hmm-using a Dell computer right now and it is a new one-about 2 yrs old-when the old ones were taken out of service-they were still working-these are "tabletop" ones.One of the older ones is behind me used to keep the station DARs.The one I am using is for other duties.Guess its the laptops that have problems?Gov't agencies have used Dell for years without weird problems.
 
Blatantly false eh, kbones?

Rick, I'm sorry I still need to see proof before I will buy the idea. I did search the internet and found nothing other then ramblings just as I suspected.

Just the thought that a company would intentionally design in a circuit to scuttle a good battery is ludicrous. It would be EASILY reverse engineered and once it was discovered it would destroy the companies reputation. NO company would do this, even Dell.

Note I'm not saying that there isn't a circuit in the battery that can be read by the Bios, in fact I am sure there is that. I just don't buy that it is being used to scuttle the battery intentionally.

I still say blatantly false until I see proof. Nothing personal, its just the way I approach things. And yes I'm an atheist too...
 

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