Weekend of Washing, Baking and Thrifting!
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turquoisedude
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Wow - what a weekend!
The visits and thrifting must have been great fun, but to get the Maytag combo going again...priceless!! Gives me hope for that GE combo of mine! Thanks so much for sharing all this!!
The visits and thrifting must have been great fun, but to get the Maytag combo going again...priceless!! Gives me hope for that GE combo of mine! Thanks so much for sharing all this!!
Let me get this straight
The SPDT relay either engages the Chime at the end or the other side of the 110V during dry.
The SPST engages the other leg of the 110V and when both are engaged it delivers 220V through the relay.
Are the "x"s where you added split contacts or places you cut the timer block out of the 220?
And you found a double block relay with a SPDT and a SPST in one box???
The SPDT relay either engages the Chime at the end or the other side of the 110V during dry.
The SPST engages the other leg of the 110V and when both are engaged it delivers 220V through the relay.
Are the "x"s where you added split contacts or places you cut the timer block out of the 220?
And you found a double block relay with a SPDT and a SPST in one box???
washernoob
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Whirlpool
Oh yes.
That whirlpool looks like a more TOL model to ours! Ours is a tan like color (probably once white) Its got a few button selectors that I never use. Just spin the dial to Normal and let it go!
The 2 holders for detergents are on the other side, and we dont have that top silverware rack. Just the big one on the bottom of the door.
Oh yes.
That whirlpool looks like a more TOL model to ours! Ours is a tan like color (probably once white) Its got a few button selectors that I never use. Just spin the dial to Normal and let it go!
The 2 holders for detergents are on the other side, and we dont have that top silverware rack. Just the big one on the bottom of the door.
Jon -
I can't quote Cory directly, so hopefully he chimes in; again, no pun intended, LOL.
for now, Greg and I did not hook up the SPDT relay for the chime as we wanted to test to ensure that everything would work with just the relay for the heater. I ordered two individual relays according to Cory's specifications on his modified schematic.
Greg and I removed the blue wire running to 15 to effectively remove the chime from the cycle; so yes, our total reconstruction of the timer still has yet to pass the test when speaking of contact 15. However, I did a continuity test of the contact for 15 prior to installation to insure the future installation of the SPDT relay for the chime installation, and it passed with flying colors. Considering it will only carry 300 miliamps (per Omron's specs) compared to 20A over 220v, I am not as concerned about it as it would be if we hooked it up to factory specs. Thankfully those contacts were cleaned to a spit shine!
You are correct though on the X's blocking out the timer from receiving the full brunt of the heater's full draw during heat, in accordance from what I understand with Cory's previous explanation. He really is the true genius behind this fix. A HUGE thanks again to Cory for this one - I would not have been able to do it without you buddy!
Ben
I can't quote Cory directly, so hopefully he chimes in; again, no pun intended, LOL.
for now, Greg and I did not hook up the SPDT relay for the chime as we wanted to test to ensure that everything would work with just the relay for the heater. I ordered two individual relays according to Cory's specifications on his modified schematic.
Greg and I removed the blue wire running to 15 to effectively remove the chime from the cycle; so yes, our total reconstruction of the timer still has yet to pass the test when speaking of contact 15. However, I did a continuity test of the contact for 15 prior to installation to insure the future installation of the SPDT relay for the chime installation, and it passed with flying colors. Considering it will only carry 300 miliamps (per Omron's specs) compared to 20A over 220v, I am not as concerned about it as it would be if we hooked it up to factory specs. Thankfully those contacts were cleaned to a spit shine!
You are correct though on the X's blocking out the timer from receiving the full brunt of the heater's full draw during heat, in accordance from what I understand with Cory's previous explanation. He really is the true genius behind this fix. A HUGE thanks again to Cory for this one - I would not have been able to do it without you buddy!
Ben
I'm very impressed with the timer restoration as well as the newly designed circuit to take off some of the electrical load on timer boards! Very very genius you guys.
We are going to have to learn how to do all of our own timer work in the future.
We are going to have to learn how to do all of our own timer work in the future.
mistereric
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Wow! Thats some neat handywork on the timer! Lovely kitchen, love the chrome MixMaster (just like mine!) and the yellow combo is sweeeet.
John and Jeff have always used a "heat relay" to take the heater current out of the timer during dryer and combo restorations. With the Filtrators, you can hear when the heat cycles because of the SNAP! of the solenoid, same when the LK combo went into cooldown.
austinado16
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Great thread!
Kitchen is fantastic and it's great to see all the appliances in use.
You guys are serious about the wiring repairs! Really impressive!
Kitchen is fantastic and it's great to see all the appliances in use.
You guys are serious about the wiring repairs! Really impressive!
HEAT RELAYS FOR CLASSIC ELECTRIC COMBOS AND DRYERS
As Tom said mentioned my brother Jeff and I have been installing heater relays on classic machines for at least 25 years. We normally try to bypass the timer, the temperature or program switch and the motor centrifugal switch these are all parts that are difficult if not impossible to replace on classic machines. You should not ever bypass the heater safety thermostat in case the relay contacts ever stick, that way you have a safety backup. I usually get a relay with a 208-240 volt coil and an contact amp rating of at least 30 amps at 240 volts.remember thier is no 220 power in this country most homes have 230-250 volt power if you have single phase power, many commercial buildings and apartments and condos have three phase power in which case you end up with just 208 volts which ends up producing 25% less heat than 240 volts.
As Tom said mentioned my brother Jeff and I have been installing heater relays on classic machines for at least 25 years. We normally try to bypass the timer, the temperature or program switch and the motor centrifugal switch these are all parts that are difficult if not impossible to replace on classic machines. You should not ever bypass the heater safety thermostat in case the relay contacts ever stick, that way you have a safety backup. I usually get a relay with a 208-240 volt coil and an contact amp rating of at least 30 amps at 240 volts.remember thier is no 220 power in this country most homes have 230-250 volt power if you have single phase power, many commercial buildings and apartments and condos have three phase power in which case you end up with just 208 volts which ends up producing 25% less heat than 240 volts.
Nice work Guys.....
That is exactly how I would have wired this. If you need any further help, please don't hesitate to contact me! LOL
That is exactly how I would have wired this. If you need any further help, please don't hesitate to contact me! LOL
Twin Brothers of Different Mothers
Greg and Ben are a treat to watch. They can read each other's thoughts and finish each other's sentences to say nothing of devilish fun. I am sorry I didn't to see the behemouth spring to life. A window makes me tempted to give up top loaders and the slow tumble and slosh drop are fun to watch. Thanks Greg and Ben. I ate waffles from my Kansas thrift store Sunbeam this morning. I also got an early Sunbeam hand mixer, another Kitchenaid model G in creme, some corning pie plates and a Sunbeam vertical rotisserie. The midwest always has better inventory of used than the west.
Greg and Ben are a treat to watch. They can read each other's thoughts and finish each other's sentences to say nothing of devilish fun. I am sorry I didn't to see the behemouth spring to life. A window makes me tempted to give up top loaders and the slow tumble and slosh drop are fun to watch. Thanks Greg and Ben. I ate waffles from my Kansas thrift store Sunbeam this morning. I also got an early Sunbeam hand mixer, another Kitchenaid model G in creme, some corning pie plates and a Sunbeam vertical rotisserie. The midwest always has better inventory of used than the west.
Looks like
another grand time had by all!! Kitchen looks great Greg even with all the pots!!!
Great to see the old Maytag combo back up and running, nothing like that sunshine colour, was that the problem with these models then , the relays overheating like this??
another grand time had by all!! Kitchen looks great Greg even with all the pots!!!
Great to see the old Maytag combo back up and running, nothing like that sunshine colour, was that the problem with these models then , the relays overheating like this??
