What Could Be Better than 2 Dishwashers in the Kitchen?

[hooverwheelaway]

Fabulous!

That looks just grand! Ugh, I wish I could find a fabulous portable KA dishwasher to put in my kitchen... then I could take the racks out of the #&@%*!& Kenmore dishwasher that came with our apartment and turn it into storage.

...One can dream.

Robert~ funny how the coffeemaker was a "modern" coffeemaker in the first picture... and magically became a Sunbeam Coffeemaster in the second picture.

**Insert nose wiggle and fun Bewitched noise**



~Fred

 

[laundryshark]

Six Dishwashers?......

When growing up, Mom used to joke about having six dishwashers [refering to us six kids.] For a time, we had one of those red lighted model Maytag dishwashers. It had an interesting sound and the smell of Calgon, Cascade, or whatever was wonderful. Don't know what became of that dishwasher except that it might have been sold or gotten rid of near the time of my parents' divorce over thirty years ago. During that troublesome season, we kids stayed with a farm neighbor for a few weeks. This family had a Kelvinator branded dishwasher. This unit had a unique and interesting sound of it's own. As for a "multiple dishwasher symphony?" I would like to collect a good audio shot of that. *grins*--Laundry Shark

 

[foraloysius]

Dishwasher heaven indeed!! Great to have so many dishwashers in the kitchen. You never empty a dishwasher at once, just start using another!

 

[jons1077]

I can just see Neil rolling his eyes.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Louis, you are on to us; empty one or two as you fill another. Tom

 

[mickeyd]

not to worry

Hi Tom, the model I have has a little red button on the unicoupler that gives you water through a bottom spout if you press it while the dishwasher is running. It also relieves pressure when the load is done so the coupler comes off without a fuss or a squirt, just another lovely part of the "clean-up" ritual of wringer dishwashing.

 

[tlee618]

Robert is that something new that you have on the right hand side of the sink?? looks like some sort of spice rack. Really neat!

 

[alr2903]

Robert i know you have the know how to work on these vintage d/w's but i have a strong feeling, If i bought 3 of todays junkers, i would be out shopping for a new ones and you would have the same 3 vintage d/w's scouring away in the kithen, I always admire your, Way Cool kitchen . arthur

 

[Unimatic1140]

Hey Jeff after rereading this thread I realized I misunderstood your question. Yes you can very easily convert this dishwasher into an under-counter dishwasher, you simply remove the cabinet, top and wheels and you are ready to build this right in under an empty counter. They actually refer to these dishwashers as a “Convertible” for that very reason. Hmmm, now where have I heard that name before (yay for the vacuum convention).

It's wringer dishwasher heaven.
I love my wringer dishwasher Mikeyd!

OK, now which of the three machines cleans the best?
The KitchenAid is best on pots and pans, the Westinghouse and Frigidaire are both best for dishes, glassware and coffee pots. The Frigidaire is especially ideal for washing long stem wine glasses. The KitchenAid is the most powerful and seems to have a tendency to knock the dishes and bowls into each other during the wash cycle so that is something I generally want to avoid since all of our dinnerware is at least 50 years old.

another blonde moment for Shane
Hey, watch it there mister, some of my most favorite people are blonde!

Also, what's this I see in your kitchen, a modern *DRIP* coffee maker??? SLAP! =)
Yes I know, I know, LOL but a dripper is just easier at 5:30am.

The only thing better than hooking the dishwasher to the kitchen faucet is to have an additional faucet for the portable dishwasher
Very true Tom, nothing that a extra little plumbing can’t fix!

does it have a separate pump for drain?
Yes it does Bob.

Robert~ funny how the coffeemaker was a "modern" coffeemaker in the first picture... and magically became a Sunbeam Coffeemaster in the second picture.
Shhhhh, Fred you are giving away a couple of my secrets

I can just see Neil rolling his eyes.
Jon Neal wouldn’t roll his eyes at that, he knows how happy it makes me to have three dw in the kitchen, and he gets a clean kitchen then.

Robert is that something new that you have on the right hand side of the sink?? looks like some sort of spice rack. Really neat!
Hi Terry, no that spice rack has always been there. Neal made it in high school shop class and then he thought it would be cute to paint it turquoise to match my favorite color.

 

[stevet]

Hey..what about the KitchenAid Mixer?

Didn't anyone notice that nice 3C or 4C Mixer on the shelf? That goes back a while! I have a 3B mixer that is in great condition. Probably made in the 1940's but is less than original now since I converted it to the 4C bowl and beater. The 3B had a clip and hollow opening in the planetary for the beater to lock into somewhat like the 10 dollar hand mixers have.

Unfortunately, the part on the beater was made of a softer metal and would eventually smoothe out and no longer grip the retainer on the planetary. I guess since the mixers were already out of production and replaced by the 3C which had the classic pin on the planetary shaft like the commercial machines of Hobart heritage, it was an easy conversion to change the planetary and beater on a 3B to a 3C and then when the 3C was replaced by the 4C, the kit became available to do the same thing. Only now, you got a 4 quart glass or stainless steel bowl and 4 quart beater to make you little 3B or 3 C a more useful mixer.

 

[stevet]

Cacophony of sound??

You guys may force me to connect my 3 Kitchenaids in the garage, a KDS18,19 AND KDI21 and have the Whirlpool DU 950 conduct the symphony.. The KDS18 in the kitchen will have to listen from there. Like you probably already know.. my wife won't let me take it out. We actually took that 18 and the 21 down from Long Island when we moved here. She was adamant about tossing the 6 year old GE Profile out onto the curb!
(we did leave the new owners a KUDS22 SUPERBA in the upatairs kitchen, a Kenmore with the water tube up the middle of the lower rack in the basement kitchen along with a Kitchen Aid disposer downstairs and a ISE disposer upstairs.

She even made us leave the Neptune front loader.
When we got our first water bill, she told me not to say "I told you so!"

Oh and the KUDP02RIWH will be the audience in the garage as the others toot thier horns and cymbals! She is still too shy to come out of her box!

 

[stevet]

KD14 water pump!

Ahh, yes! Hobart devised an ingenious water pump for those early machines. They had a centrigal pump attached to the bottom of the motor shaft which would pump the water out of the machine. The shaft on the pump was sort of U shaped and would engage a pin inserted thru the rotor shaft on the motor.
All the machines still had the solenoid actuated drain valve which would open to let the tank drain. They also had a water collection reservoir that had an air pressure switch attached to it for water level control in case of drain line blockage. any water that would go down the overflow would actually get pumped out to the drain since the pump ran as long as the motor was turning.The drain line from the pump had a siphon loop built into the machine made of copper and bolted to the back and then you would hook up your drain line to the outlet of this loop to your sink or drain connection.

Unfortunately, I never thought the old parts manuals would be worth anything so I tossed then years ago. But there isn't a doubt in my mind that someone here will post a breakdown of the washpump and drain pages from one of the manuals.

BTW, the weakness in the pump was the little pin that held the impeller to the drain pump shaft was not made of stainless steel and would rust out and the impeller would spin and not pump. in lieu of replacing a pump for expediency, I found that a standard paper clip fit in nicely so I would just put a pice of it in and twist it to stay in place.. a COPPER clip not a chromed one! Then I would order a pump and install it. I know it would by then, outlast the machine!

 

[sudsmaster]

Robert,

A word to the wise: never attempt to open the door on the dishwasher until the heavy cast iron wash arm has stopped turning. It has a lot of mass and momentum and it can easily fling substantial amounts of water in your face even after the pump has shut off.

I know this from my top-loading version of your machine (a few years earlier).

And then there's that famous ad for the top loader, with the sump filled, the lid up, the pump energized, and a geyser of water showering out the top.

Also, try running the dishwasher with no racks (and of course, no dishware). The low pitched drumming sound may be heard throughout the home. Quite impressive.

 

[stevet]

A different drummer!

Yes those cast iron washarms hurled lots of water. As many of you know..those original K/A's were based on the commercial undercounter machines. They were very,very popular as under bar machines and most of the Dunkin' Donuts and other donut shops all had them. Having worked on many many of them, I can tell you, I have heard many stories of customers being washed while sitting at the counter eating their donuts because an inexperienced employee would open the door up in mid cycle without waiting for the water to settle. And we are talking very hot water here..usually in excess of 160 degrees.

But if you really want to hear some intense drumming.. take the racks out of a 15,16 or 17 series unit.. the water pushing out of that 4 arm Hydro sweep really punishes the top of the tanks. It sound almost like a band of drummers at one time.
Our KDS15 was so noisy we would have to raise our voices to speak and be heard. I finally wrapped it in the old time felt padding they used to put under rugs and that made a difference.
Funny thing was when I switched that KDS 15 out for a KDSS16 with the stainless steel tank, with no insulation on the tank but a small patch of bituminous matting on top, the machine was so much quieter. The stainless had a dull ring to it and muffled the water sounds and the old porcelain on steel tank would ring out like a bell when the water hit it.

 

[jons1077]

Robert,

hehe...believe me, Neil was rolling his eyes in a good way in my mind. The way that says "three dishwashers...that's so cute!"

It's really a beauty by the way!

Jon

 

[~sudsshane]

Hey, watch it there mister, some of my most favorite people

yes dear Robert...we know you love the "waspy" blonde Iowa boys..=)

 

[~sudsshane]

Robert~

"Yes I know, I know, LOL but a dripper is just easier at 5:30am".

No excuses Samantha..set up your fabulous Sunbeam Coffee Master the night before.

Double slap! =)

 

[Unimatic1140]

OOoooo Tough Croud LOL

Yes but you see I'm not the one who is making coffee at 5:30am, so trust me it's just better to do a little modern drip. The Sunbeam gets a workout every Saturday and Sunday when I finally get myself out of bed.

 

[appnut]

The Sunbeam gets a workout every Saturday and Sunday when I

Wow, what a life you have Robert. Only getting out of bed on Saturdays & Sundays!! Neil you dawg you!!

 

[tomturbomatic]

Mickeyd, Yes, the pressure release button is nice, but I would not want to use 140+ degree water when rinsing out a dishcloth that I am holding in my hand. Sometimes when I am washing a piece of cookware by hand, I allow the water to drain into it to give the pan a high temp soak then dump most of the water and wash it. Then I rinse it under the faucet that is free from the unicouple. I have a lot of good cookware that goes in the smashers, but I have also accumulated some very beautiful pieces that I enjoy using and then washing by hand and polishing dry. The additional hands-on time increases the joy I gather from having them with me; shepping naches is the best description, for those who know Yiddish. I do not use metal utensils in any of my cookware so the insides are as scratch free as when they were purchased.