What the hell?
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kenmoreguy89
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sbond22
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What the hell?
The answer is probably obvious once the Venezuelan black market situation is understood.
The answer is probably obvious once the Venezuelan black market situation is understood.
kenmoreguy89
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What you mean?
mayken4now
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Old GE mixed with new GE?
vacerator
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Venezuela
has a totalitarian president no? An unfinished tower of David from a failed bank system where destitute squatters now live, or is that in Bogata Columbia?
I saw a program and learned that once you are employed in Venezuela, if you ever are convicted of a crime, you are never employed again, and banished to the mountains, so a black market is a given.
has a totalitarian president no? An unfinished tower of David from a failed bank system where destitute squatters now live, or is that in Bogata Columbia?
I saw a program and learned that once you are employed in Venezuela, if you ever are convicted of a crime, you are never employed again, and banished to the mountains, so a black market is a given.
kenmoreguy89
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And what has this to do with mexican filter flos that are hybrids old and new machines?
kenmoreguy89
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Exactly steven.
Never seen such a thing.
I wonder how is that possible?
Never seen such a thing.
I wonder how is that possible?
kenmoreguy89
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Newer machines got all different mechanics than filter flos....cabinets etc are different..it makes me wonder how can you fit all that in an hybrid, and where were they made?
kenmoreguy89
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I meant venezuelan not mexican.
Yeah I don't understand what Venezuela's politics has anything to do with GE Frankensteining their own machines for a small, foreign market.
Or maybe it was made by a South American appliance vendor that GE licensed its name and some parts to?
We all know GE is a licensing hussy like DT.
Very interesting.
Or maybe it was made by a South American appliance vendor that GE licensed its name and some parts to?
We all know GE is a licensing hussy like DT.
Very interesting.
vacerator
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For a few reasons.
How do we know GE did this? I think it was a second party, at least.
No regulation for commerce, no or little economy of scale except the very rich.
Anything goes. Like back yard or home garage mechanics assembling machines from parts and selling them online.
The US has standards for every commodity. There is even a standards board for cheese making.
Down there, you might have a cartel that keeps others out of the competition.
How do we know GE did this? I think it was a second party, at least.
No regulation for commerce, no or little economy of scale except the very rich.
Anything goes. Like back yard or home garage mechanics assembling machines from parts and selling them online.
The US has standards for every commodity. There is even a standards board for cheese making.
Down there, you might have a cartel that keeps others out of the competition.
kenmoreguy89
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Look.....
I surf very often South American second hand websites, and that is first time I see such a thing.
You find a lot of actual filter flos down there, as well as newer models, but never something like this.
Ge's FF lay outs were pretty much all the same Canada to Brazil.
Rim flo or not.
In south america you might have found semi automatic ff but no more than that.
You have standards all over because you have factories who produce pieces who adapts to various models....making what for us washer folks can immediately be recognized.
Case in point, in Brazil for example you had Brastemp machines that were nothing else but whirlpools and kenmore hybrids, just looking at it you say WHirlpool...in Colombia you had Centrales brand again whirlpool, in Venezuela you had Philips again whirlpool parts.
Now....whatever it is....even considering someone who made a machibe out of two, well....
That could have been if it was a filter flo top, or console fitting an hotpoint or beaumark machine...as to speak.
But you just cannot easily take a newer model console fit into an older, newer agitators won't fit filter flo trannies,so the baskets...outter tub as well.
Filter flo only had the washtub on balance springs,and outter tub ws still attached to cabinet, they used a boot,newer models had both outter and inner tub on springs....
Again...total different mechanics.
These are new cabinets, old baskets, new agitators.....does not make any sense.
Just like a wp belt drive would not fit easily a modern DD whirlpool...
You have very different layouts and mechanics to make one out of these two.....
I surf very often South American second hand websites, and that is first time I see such a thing.
You find a lot of actual filter flos down there, as well as newer models, but never something like this.
Ge's FF lay outs were pretty much all the same Canada to Brazil.
Rim flo or not.
In south america you might have found semi automatic ff but no more than that.
You have standards all over because you have factories who produce pieces who adapts to various models....making what for us washer folks can immediately be recognized.
Case in point, in Brazil for example you had Brastemp machines that were nothing else but whirlpools and kenmore hybrids, just looking at it you say WHirlpool...in Colombia you had Centrales brand again whirlpool, in Venezuela you had Philips again whirlpool parts.
Now....whatever it is....even considering someone who made a machibe out of two, well....
That could have been if it was a filter flo top, or console fitting an hotpoint or beaumark machine...as to speak.
But you just cannot easily take a newer model console fit into an older, newer agitators won't fit filter flo trannies,so the baskets...outter tub as well.
Filter flo only had the washtub on balance springs,and outter tub ws still attached to cabinet, they used a boot,newer models had both outter and inner tub on springs....
Again...total different mechanics.
These are new cabinets, old baskets, new agitators.....does not make any sense.
Just like a wp belt drive would not fit easily a modern DD whirlpool...
You have very different layouts and mechanics to make one out of these two.....
kenmoreguy89
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Look.....
I surf very often South American second hand websites, and that is first time I see such a thing.
You find a lot of actual filter flos down there, as well as newer models, but never something like this.
Ge's FF lay outs were pretty much all the same Canada to Brazil.
Rim flo or not.
In south america you might have found semi automatic ff but no more than that.
You have standards all over because you have factories who produce pieces who adapts to various models....making what for us washer folks can immediately be recognized.
Case in point, in Brazil for example you had Brastemp machines that were nothing else but whirlpools and kenmore hybrids, just looking at it you say WHirlpool...in Colombia you had Centrales brand again whirlpool, in Venezuela you had Philips again whirlpool parts.
Now....whatever it is....even considering someone who made a machibe out of two, well....
That could have been if it was a filter flo top, or console fitting an hotpoint or beaumark machine...as to speak.
But you just cannot easily take a newer model console fit into an older, newer agitators won't fit filter flo trannies,so the baskets...outter tub as well.
Filter flo only had the washtub on balance springs,and outter tub ws still attached to cabinet, they used a boot,newer models had both outter and inner tub on springs....
Again...total different mechanics.
These are new cabinets, old baskets, new agitators.....does not make any sense.
Just like a wp belt drive would not fit easily a modern DD whirlpool...
You have very different layouts and mechanics to make one out of these two.....
I surf very often South American second hand websites, and that is first time I see such a thing.
You find a lot of actual filter flos down there, as well as newer models, but never something like this.
Ge's FF lay outs were pretty much all the same Canada to Brazil.
Rim flo or not.
In south america you might have found semi automatic ff but no more than that.
You have standards all over because you have factories who produce pieces who adapts to various models....making what for us washer folks can immediately be recognized.
Case in point, in Brazil for example you had Brastemp machines that were nothing else but whirlpools and kenmore hybrids, just looking at it you say WHirlpool...in Colombia you had Centrales brand again whirlpool, in Venezuela you had Philips again whirlpool parts.
Now....whatever it is....even considering someone who made a machibe out of two, well....
That could have been if it was a filter flo top, or console fitting an hotpoint or beaumark machine...as to speak.
But you just cannot easily take a newer model console fit into an older, newer agitators won't fit filter flo trannies,so the baskets...outter tub as well.
Filter flo only had the washtub on balance springs,and outter tub ws still attached to cabinet, they used a boot,newer models had both outter and inner tub on springs....
Again...total different mechanics.
These are new cabinets, old baskets, new agitators.....does not make any sense.
Just like a wp belt drive would not fit easily a modern DD whirlpool...
You have very different layouts and mechanics to make one out of these two.....
kenmoreguy89
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Older GE's filter flo you find in Venezuela were made by fabrica Madosa in caracas.
kenmoreguy89
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For example.
Older colombian Centrales branded machines could have been either belt drive "whirlpool" machines or Ge filter flo.
But kept the style older-older..
Older colombian Centrales branded machines could have been either belt drive "whirlpool" machines or Ge filter flo.
But kept the style older-older..
vacerator
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I see,
Ok, it may very well be the first you have seen this because fabrica Madoosa was a legitimnate licensed assembler for GE, as was Centrales, but they are now defunct.
Thus, there may be a few who put together machines with parts from whom and where ever they can get them.
Parts is parts, just like the old Brazilian Ford Galaxie that retained the 1965-'66 body throughout it's production life, with a name change to "Landau" and new grille and tail treatment in about 1975 to make it look more like an American LTD at the front. I think Ford do Brazil used LTD for the mid size Fairlane though.
GM do Brazil used Opel Commodore copies but named them Chevrolet Opala.
Some Brazlian VW's were even marketed as Ford's. I think VW bought the Ford plant in Sao Paulo (San Bernardino del Campo).
Ok, it may very well be the first you have seen this because fabrica Madoosa was a legitimnate licensed assembler for GE, as was Centrales, but they are now defunct.
Thus, there may be a few who put together machines with parts from whom and where ever they can get them.
Parts is parts, just like the old Brazilian Ford Galaxie that retained the 1965-'66 body throughout it's production life, with a name change to "Landau" and new grille and tail treatment in about 1975 to make it look more like an American LTD at the front. I think Ford do Brazil used LTD for the mid size Fairlane though.
GM do Brazil used Opel Commodore copies but named them Chevrolet Opala.
Some Brazlian VW's were even marketed as Ford's. I think VW bought the Ford plant in Sao Paulo (San Bernardino del Campo).
LOL!
That would be me!
Looks like some of the Frankenstein machines Ive pulled off in the past, though who ever did this one, sure knew how to get completely incompatible parts to works besides one another. Serious talent possessed by the creator(s).
But in all seriousness, my best guess would be a parts surplus around the time they started making non FF machines and were cleverly adapted to make up for lost production costs. At least thats what make sense to me.
If these are actual FFs or new style GEs Im leaning toward new style but in all honesty I am totally clueless in that regard. I would not be to surprised if pooping the hood on one of those raised more questions then answers, but Id sure like to see it anyway lol.
Is any member capable of obtaining one of those?
That would be me!
Looks like some of the Frankenstein machines Ive pulled off in the past, though who ever did this one, sure knew how to get completely incompatible parts to works besides one another. Serious talent possessed by the creator(s).
But in all seriousness, my best guess would be a parts surplus around the time they started making non FF machines and were cleverly adapted to make up for lost production costs. At least thats what make sense to me.
If these are actual FFs or new style GEs Im leaning toward new style but in all honesty I am totally clueless in that regard. I would not be to surprised if pooping the hood on one of those raised more questions then answers, but Id sure like to see it anyway lol.
Is any member capable of obtaining one of those?
