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twintubdexter

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That's what my late best friend used to say they asked at Eastern Airlines many years ago. I hope I can get some advice from the crew of experts on Autowasher.org.

My 10 year old Whirlpool all-refrigerator has developed a refrigerant (R134a) leak at the evaporator outlet. The evaporator frosts a few inches beyond the capillary tube and that's it. There is oil at the joint at the end of the evaporator as well as oil below the joints on a Styrofoam piece. The compressor runs and the defrost timer cycles. I am not "Mr. Know It All" but I learned to service refrigerators when I was in high school and college (I think they still delivered ice to homes back then.)

I stopped by a local appliance repair place yesterday and got nasty treatment. After the owner chewed out some poor employee about not adding enough 0's to GE part numbers I explained my problem...and I said nothing about knowing anything about repair work. The scruffy guy told me it would be a minimum of $800. I told him that my brother owns a small major appliance repair shop in San Jose...nothing more...and he went ballistic and told me in these exact words "if you even attempt to repair your refrigerator yourself you will spend 2 to 5 years in the penitentiary (not jail or prison.) I thanked him and left.

I've scheduled a service appointment with A&E Factory Service and hopefully I can get an honest answer to the cost of repair. I don't expect it to be cheap. In the "old days" if something like this happened, provided this was the only leak, the connection could be re-soldered provided the evaporator core was copper tubing. You'd pull a vacuum on the system and proceed from there. I'm assuming the evaporator in my fridge is all aluminum and the connections seem to be machine-crimped. Should I expect to need a replacement evaporator?

In addition I have a special problem. This all-refrigerator matches the freezer next to it. For about $1,180 I can replace the fridge with the new Whirpool model (I paid about $700 10 years ago) but the current model will not match my freezer and I couldn't stand to look at that. My kitchen has a 60" wide space for refrigeration, originally designed as a Kosher kitchen with 2 of everything. I am trying to decide the best thing to do in the event the cost of repair is too high.

I could:

1. Spend $2,400 on 2 new appliances from Whirpool. New similar models from Frigidaire, Kenmore and Electrolux are too big at 32" wide.

2. Spend a whole lot more than I want to ($8,000 to $12,000) and get pricey 30" wide stuff like Thermador, Viking or Liebherr and the rest (and pay to have the cabinets modified to accommodate the additional height)...I don't have that kind of swanky house or matching swanky bank account.

3. Buy a normal-sized close-to-counter-depth refrigerator/freezer and have a cabinet made for the leftover space. The guy I bought the house from had a black side by side with a stack of dry dog food piled next to it. All the built-ins are white so it looked pretty ugly. Maybe I'm being too picky.

I've also thought about buying 2, 30" fridge/freezers and reversing the doors on one but models that narrow are usually super-deep and they'd stick out a foot from the cabinets...too tacky.

If you have any suggestions I'd appreciate them, especially on the repair. Thanks for staying awake long enough to read all this.

not enough cold to cool a cucumber

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Be Happy

Go ahead and get it fixed,if it doesnt last you wont be out of the money for a new unmatching one.Its better than throwing down thousands.Also you might check some listings for appliances for sale and may find a running one cheap. Good Luck Bobby
 
Get it Fixed

I say, at least attempt repair with a serviceman. If you're feeling ambitious, don't say anything to us (maybe drop a hint?), and go DIY.

I really think that repair shop's attitude was uncalled for: Why do they care if you go to jail, and why burst into flames when you mention that YOUR BROTHER has a repair shop, who could help? I myself might've told them to go and .......... themselves (maybe not me, but another member of my family would), or go bark up someone else's tree. 
 
What is the model number? I'm curious to look it up and check part prices. You'd most likely be looking at an evaporator and a filter drier. The freon's where some of the ugly cost roosts...

RCD
 
longshot

At the risk of sounding completely stupid I'll throw this out anyways.

Is there a remote chance that the current WP all fridges are the same dimensions, same hinge setup etc whereby you could just switch your door onto a new one?
 
WP All Refrigerator

Joe I have the same Woods built , WP all refrigerator in my pantry that WP gave me as a scrap-out appliance , it had exactly the same problem. The evaporator was only around $100 and my brother [ he is an expert refrigeration repair man ] fixed it and I have had no problems since. At retail this repair should cost around $400 if you get a good independent repair company to do it. If A&E service is anything like they are here in the DC area I would not use them.

 

If you like message me your phone# and I will be glad to answer any questions about this appliance, John.
 
I checked the new Whirpool. You couldn't switch doors although they are the same size. It might be possible to do something "creative" like doing some designer fronts for both...something that would fit in with my Tommy Bahama/Safari interior. Like a lot of my artistic projects I have a feeling it would end up looking pretty bad.

A new evaporator online is about $122, $91 if my brother orders it and sends it to me...it weighs very little. The system uses a total of 4 oz of R134a, not difficult to get, especially here in the Desert where thousands of air conditioners use pounds of the stuff. This is not a DYI repair, special tools and equipment like guages and a vacuum pump are needed. Hopefully I'm blowing this out of proportion and the repair will be reasonable. Fortunately I have a similar Kenmore all-refrigerator in my garage...utilitarian with wire shelves like a freezer. It was given to me for free in need of repair...the evaporator fan blade came off the motor shaft. One bonus, I'm finding I'm eating less with only the fridge in the garage, but I still have room in the house for a couple hundred cartons of Haagen Dazs.
 

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