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Siemens

Large capacity FL Washers are getting like Japanese and American cars of the 90's. They all look similar and have simialr features ...not much sets one apart from the other with the possible exception of reliability.

I recently purchased a Siemens Ultra Sense Plus (Bosch Nexxt) and am very pleased with it. 1200 RPM spin... good balancing/minimal vibration and great extraction. Internal Heater, Unique Wash Rythym and Paddle Design (moves clothes front to back of drum as well as over) clean and rinse very well and it is super efficient. Capacity is huge... it holds about 2 1/2 times what my Bosch Axxis+ does... And.... I got a really good deal. My Mom has had her Duet HT for about 6 years, problem free and loves it.
 
Tumbler....which do you feel is more reliable? The Duet, whose drum is on a slant, or the Sport, which is not?

Or does that make any difference?
 
New Washers

This is usually the time fo year I love, as we usually buy 2 new washers in Jan or Feb. However this year for the first time in 25 years , There is not any make that I really like. The only one that comes close is the Speed Queen and there is now way that I am going to buy a washer that only will wash for 9 Mins. Oh for a Westy slant front..
 
Stay away from the Neptune Top loaders unless you're into making your own ropes....I put mine in my rental house for the renters to use.
 
Tomturbomatic

I guess I wasn’t clear about the delicate tumbling in the LG. I was trying to say that the LG is the only front loader that will allow the user to select a gentle tumbling pattern and still allow the user to select spins between the wash and all of the rinses. It’s also the only FL to allow an Extra High spin in the gentle cycle for say sweaters or rugs. The Miele will not allow a spin after the wash or between the rinses (Only a final spin) when a gentle tumble pattern is selected. The Duet will not either. The gentle cycle in other front loaders only drains and fills after the wash and rinses with no spin. The LG gives the user a choice. You’re right, the Whitest Whites and Cotton programs you mentioned do spin after the wash and between the rinses, but they do not have a gentle tumble pattern/speed; they use a fast tumble.

Your Duet has trouble distributing due to the tilted tub, the fact that it only spins in one direction (Counter clock-wise I believe) and when it becomes unbalance, it stops and tumbles 6 to 8 times before attempting to spin again.

You’re right, your Miele has less trouble because it is easier to distribute the load over the smaller circumference, and the Miele does not have the tilted tub design. Washers without the tilted tub design have little or no trouble balancing for the spin.
 
someone said "the dryer must match". a friend not long ago asked for MY recommendation. i suggested the full-size Duet (dont ask what model). i also told him "if you want to show off the pair and spend money, get the matching dryer. if you want to dry the clothes, get the MOL top-filter super capacity, plain-jane dryer" thats exactly what he did. the full-size Duet has worked wonderfully, and the dryer doesnt seem to care whether the washer matches or not!
 
For a FL, I'd be inching toward an LG steemer, except for the service issue. So, a Maytag Epic.

TL, an Oasis or Cabrio (wash plate version, because it's different). (Or an F&P Intuitive Eco.)
 
Duet HT vs. Sport

Oxydolfan1:

I doubt that the slanted tub of the Duet HT vs. the horizontal tub of the Sport has any effect on reliability. That's strictly a materials and workmanship issue. It does affect the circulation pattern of the clothes. The clothes not only tumble, but also circulate front-to-back while they tumble. Additionally, it appears that since the wash and rinse water is deepest at the back of the tub, the HT gets away with using less water. This is also why they seem like they don't have enough water in them. They do-it's just that you can't see it!
 
Well, I would have to say

If you can get it, the Maytag dependable care for the top loader, it is hard to beat them, in lou of that , I would say that the Speed Queen is your best choice for a TL. They are really basic, like the Maytag was.
As for the Front loader, I love the Miele. I have one and love the fact that it can wash wool and cashmere, and has an interal water heater, although, I will say that it takes some getting acostomed to using it.It is completely different than any other FL that I have ever used. If an Americanized FL is what you are looking for, I would say the Bosch Next series is a close second. It also has an internal water heater to bump up the water temps, it is wisper quiet, and does a great job, and is larger sized.I love when it is filling, it tumbles the entire time, ever so slowly.
 
Re: washer purchase

If I had to go and buy a new washer today I would be one of three.
1. Would be either a Frigidiare or a Speed Queen, have looked at both of them and both are pretty good quality. Electrolux has done wonders for Frigidaire buy putting 3/4 hp motors and steel gears in the transmissions it's going to stand up to heavy loads. My dad has a Frigidaire going on 4 years now and has had no problems with it. Speed Queen and the Allance group has finaly I think got it right. They went back and took a look at the washers and the quality that McGraw-Edison built back in the 50-60 and the 70's and started incorperating some of the quality back. Allaince group is a combonation of some of the top old excs. of McGraw-Edison and Rayteon. One of the things that they have done is like Frigidaire put steel gears in the transmission box.

3. My next choice would be the LG Tromm Steam washer. I like the capacity and I also like the steam feature. the Tromm has a 3.7 or by now 3.8 cub.ft. drum.

4. Would be the Frigidaire Front loaders either the Affinity or the ones with the square doors. Because of the 3.5 cu.ft.
drum.

These are my picks for new washer. Have fun shopping. Danf.
 
Someone ship me a 240v F&P here, please???

If I had to lose my AEG Washer/dryer, I would go for either a Hotpoint Aqualtis 1600spin (if there is one), Hoover HD Vision with circulation pump towards the bottom of the drum seal or a Maytag TOL TL'er.
If I had to lose my Zanussi condensor dryer (if I lived near the sea, it would be bobbing around in the North Sea by now!!!) I would go for an old Phillips vented dryer. These machines were so quiet, you had to look at the drum to check it was moving. Saying that, their washers with the distribution spin were great too!!!
 
I would have to rule out the maytag due to the issues with the tub seal. That said if it were a T/L I would choose F&P first or GE 2nd. I had an old neptune 3000 and 7500. I found the 7500 actually did a good job but I sold when Bosch came out with the nexxt. I have been quite happy with my Bosch nexxt, so much so that I decided to sell off my 6400/6500 set and upgrade to the platinum edition.

Scott
 
UK Influence

To put a UK perspective in the discussions along with bearpeter I would always by Bosch or miele( the new big doors) Saying that for a second machine I would love the new AQualtis 1200 version with the intensive button or the new hoover with the spray wash.
As for a drier the bosch or siemens condenser drier (very quiet) something with a glass door!!
Never ever would I buy a top loader!
 
been there done that got teashirt

Used to wrok in a hotel had a top loader spped queen to be exact to wash dishtowels and bedding worse than useless for anything that needed more than a freshen up!
 
TLs Vs. FLs

When you think about it, they're both pretty cool....

If I replace my TL with an FL, won't I then miss my old TL whenever I use my FL?

Agitator envy?

Thank the One Above for big basements....:)
 
LG

I have a new LG Tromm FL washer and dryer. These machines are awesome and my clothes have never looked cleaner! I would highly recommend LG
 
HAve to agree with cbosch....

TL's are no good for doing anything other than a freshen up, without having to pre treat, 2nd rinse etc!
Sorry guys... hope I don't upset anyone with my views.

Saying that, I would love a TL for freshening up..... 40% of my laundry only needs that!!

|Peter
 
For Molly,

I don't think you are going to have much luck finding a washer that uses lots of water AND can handle large comforters.

My suggestion would be to get a good vacuum cleaner with an upholstery brush and use that to remove most pet hair before putting the item in the washer. Using potable water to remove pet hair is simply wasteful of a resource that is very short supply in most of the world.

Then, get at good big front loader. You're just so very lucky to be buying at a time when there are so many good choices on the market: Duet, Kenmore, LG, GE, Frigidaire, Miele, Samsung, Speed Queen, even Maytag. When I was looking in 2001, the only choices amongst large front loaders were Maytag solid door Neptune and Frigidaire/Kenmore "Frigmore". I wasn't aware of the SpeedQueen FL at the time, and the Miele/Bosch offerings were just to osmall for my tastes. So I got the Neptune, becuase it was slightly larger, and it has a water heater, and it works pretty well. It uses more water than most modern front loaders, but I still wouldn't rely upon it to remove pet hair by itself. The dryer removes most pet hair, and if I'm not going to machine dry something I'll go for the vacuum cleaner.
 
I guess North Americans are pretty scroungy by comparison. I don't need to pretreat anything unless it is some really nasty stains. ( won't go there, lol. )

I would much rather pretreat if necessary than wait the 1 1/2 hrs. or more it takes for these pie in the sky FL washers to do a load of laundry.

I can get 2 to 3 loads done in that amont of time and i can guarantee you my clothes will look more than just "freshened up"

This is not a TL or FL debate. Most people in NA were raised on these kinds of machines and your opinion is a rather strong one that needed a response.

Really this is all in good fun,..TL and FL washer people just have to agree to disagree. :-)
 
"cny4":

If it were my money that I am spending on laundry appliances today, what would I buy????

Well, it goes something like this:

Top Loader:

Kenmore Elite Oasis (the one with the Wash Disk at the bottom of the 4.5 cu./ft. "Canyan Capacity" Stainless Steel Tub) + the matching dryer.

Front Loader:

Frigidaire Affinity (in Diamond Black)
Kenmore Elite HE5t (in Barolo)
Whirlpool Duet (in Diamond Dust)
Kenmore Elite HE2t (in Graphite (if money is a slight issue))
Miele Touchtronic W1215 (in Stainless Steel (if money is NO object))

And I would buy the matching dryers to any washer I end up choosing from the list above.

Vintage Washer (if you can find them...... their rarity NOW makes them increasingly difficult to find):

Frigidaire (either a Tower Top, Unimatic or Multimatic with "Rapidry", or one of the 1-18 models from 1970-79).
Sears-Lady Kenmore (from the porcelains model from 1957-60, the Keyboard Models from the 1966-73, and the early electronic models from 1978-86, and all of them would be belt-drive models).
Kelvinator (with "Magic Minute" cycle..... works just like the "Catalyst" cycle now featured on the top Kenmores).
Bendix/Philco (I'll take a 1959 Automagic or a 1963 Miss America) as well as one of the Duomatics from that era.
RCA/Whirlpool (their Washer/Dryer Combination with the lighted console up front).

The dryers to these washers are just as difficult to find (if not more so) than the washers themselves. The combinations don't count here because the dryers are already the integral parts of the machines.

--Charles--
 
TL - maybe Speed Queen...can't stand anything with an auger agitator

FL - I really like the square-door Frigidaire 2940 in Black Diamond. I wish they would put a heater in it. It is a much more versatile machine than the Affinity. (I have the 2940 in white).

Maybe the Affinity w/heater in black.
 
Re: Auger Agi.

I couldn't agree with you more golittlesport about the auger agitatiors I hate them they don't work as well as the manufactrers would like us to think they do. A friend has had two Kenmores and is now on a Whirlpool and has hated each one as they don't roll the clothes over like its supposed to. My Montgomery Wards washer (Fedder/Norge) made washer had better rollover than anything eles I've seen yet and she was over to our house and she saw it in action one day and said she wished that her machine would roll the clothes like ours did. She even put a sock in hers to test it and it didn't even pull the sock down it just flowted on top. Thats why I like straight vane or the ramped or preggers rotoswrils better, IMHO. Thanks, Danf. P.S. One more thing before I shutup is if you load a Kenmore just like a Frigidaire you will get better results as I have done this and it works. Don't wrap the clothes around the agi. just drop the items in it will increase the rollover. Thanks. Danf.
 
norgeman

Are you talking about the bd versions or the dd version of the DAA? I disagree wholeheartedly about no turnover with one of these agitators. I have seen both versions work and am currently using one in a dd now.

I must admit though,..i personally do not think a dual-action is needed in a dd unit. I used a WP washer from 1988,..it had the modular surgilator with the tiny lint filter in the barrel of the agitator. That thing could turn over large heavy loads well...i wish they would offer that agi again in TOL units instead of the BOL machines they had at the time.
 

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