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saltysam

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I have tried, unsucessfully I might add,making light and fluffy biscuits like my grandma used to make..
Anyone care to share their secrets? With all the wonderful bakers here in the group it would be interesting to see what your recepices consist of and how you do it. Thanks!
Mark
 
White Lily flour,

OR all purpose flour with a few tablespoons of cake flour substituted.

Biscuit dough needs to be handled, but not bashed. This is not bread dough, but about 30 seconds (really!) of kneading will make a big, good difference.

Oh, incidentally- Crisco brand shortening is not very good for biscuits any more. Since they tinkered with the formula to remove the transfats, the performance of the stuff has declined. Use butter, lard (even Morrell Snowcap,) or any other brand of shortening.

HOT oven, too.

Best of luck!

Lawrence/Maytagbear
 
Mark, the less you handle the dough, the lighter the biscuits will be. This is an old southern secret. Lawrence is right about White Lilly flour, if it is available in Missouri. Lard (real lard) is best for baking anyway.
 
White Lily flour,

Thanks guys, I can't remember if White Lily flour is available here in Missouri or not but will check at the local grocer. Although i have tried to make biscuits many times I have been met with limited success. I use Gold Medal flour and Crisco. My ex. mother-in-law used to use lard for everything. I have wondered why my pie crusts seem to have a very mild "after taste" before baking. I thought it was the salt i was tasting, now i'm not so sure. Didn't know Crisco had changed the formula but this may account for the difference in my pie crusts.
Thanks for the info. Will attempt another try and see what happens.
Mark
 
Martha White

is what my Aunt Julie always uses for her delicious biscuits. It and White Lily are from the same company, and when I checked the store locator, it shows Kroger in Nashville, IL as being the closest to you. It looks like they carry both brands there. I've not had good luck with Gold Medal for biscuits either.
 
Mark you might also look for W R flour fron Kansas. We use this all the time for our biscuts. Also use the self rising flour from then for the biscuts. If you have an Aldi close their shorting is good it is like the old Crisco. We do use lard sometimes. Like the others say don't over work the dough. Pat the dough out to about 1/2 to 3/4 inch and use a sharp edged cutter. Don't twist the the cutter either just straight down and jiggle a little. When twisting it causes the bisquit to not rise as well.

Do you use regular milk or buttermilk? Butter milk will give a lighter bisquit. If using buttermilk and salf rising flour add about 1/2 teaspoon baking soda.

Also after cutting the fist bisquits out don't reknead the remaining dough just kinda push it together and repat out and cut.
 
What Was Really Great:

Was when White Lily was making frozen biscuits. Their "Southern Style" variety really, really tasted home-made. Unfortunately, they didn't sell fast enough to suit White Lily's new owners, Smucker's, and they were discontinued about seven or eight months ago.

That leaves Pillsbury's Perfect Portions, which have their fans, but which are not my idea of a biscuit with a home-made taste or texture.
 
Scones (British and Australian name for USA "biscuits&q

My understanding is that USA "biscuits" are what we call "scones". (pronounced "scons" with a short o.)

If so, here is the recipe we use at work - we specialize in devonshire tea, which is tea served with scones, jam and cream.

Into a large basin or bowl place about three cups of self-raising flour. (at work we do 14 cups but you won't want that many scones...)

pour on top about half a cup (to three-quarters of a cup) of thickened cream.
Use a flexible bladed knife to mix the flour and cream till it resembles coarse breadcrumbs. Hold the knife in one hand and the edge of bowl in the other, rotate the bowl as you mix with the knife. (I use an old fashioned flexible bladed bread-and-butter knife with a bone coloured handle, you can't get them new but I scour op-shops for them.) You should use a lightweight, flexible knife to mix, nothing else. A palette knife would do. Keep scraping the sticky bits off the sides of the bowl. When it is almost right, you can gently rub the "crumbs" between your fingertips to break up the bigger lumps and incorporate any loose dry flour left in the bowl.
What you are looking for is a bowl full of "crumbs" with little or no fine flour dust left, it should all be crumbly.

Then ad a splash or three of milk, just enough to moisten the crumbs. Then you gently stir with your knife to amalgamate the crumbs into a light, slightly sticky dough. You must do it very gently. (Old ladies with severe arthritis make the best scones, as they can only handle the dough gently without pain.)

As soon as the pile of sticky crumbs has transformed into a dough, turn it out onto a floured benchtop. Gently shape the dough to a circle and pat it out to about 35 mm thick. (1 1/2 inches) Just use your crippled old fingertips, not a rolling pin.

Tip a little flour into a shallow dish or small bowl - this is to dip your scone cutter in, if you flour the cutter then the dough doesn't stick to it.

Cut out your scones and gently snuggle them up together on a lightly greased scone tray (slide??) and bake them at 200 degreed C (whatever that is in Fahrenheit - fairly hot) for about 15 minutes.

They should rise right up, be golden brown outside, fluffy white inside. The outside ones may cook faster, remove them when ready and give the inner ones a whisker longer if needed.

We serve them with organic raspberry jam and double cream. (and a good cup of tea.)

This method is an old local method from around the district where I live - scones are traditionally made by rubbing flour and butter together, not flour and cream. But this is an old dairying area and the farming wives worked out that using cream is easier and makes a great scone.
We get a lot of compliments for our scones.
I have just given you our "trade secret" so don't tell anyone...
Chris.
 
Thanks Chris, it is always interesting to hear of original recipes from acroess the pond, so to speak. Will definitely give these a try. couldn't be any worse than my biscuits. lol
Mark
 
My favorite flour__----____-------_____

Virginias Best self rising,I have to drive about 2 hours to get it as it is not sold in N.C. , it makes the whitest lightest biscuits ive ever seen, I use 2 cups sifted self rise flour,1/2 cup crisco, blend with pastry blender until like coarse meal, add 3/4 to 1 cup whole milk buttermilk,dont waste time with skim or lowfat ,wont work worth a damn,mix with a spoon till dough is formed,turn out on floured board, knead 10 times or so,pat out cut bake on greased sheet in 450 oven till brown,it has been my experience that if you dont work them enough they have a poor texture,this is contrary to what most people say, but it works for me, Hans Craig
 
just till mixed

not worked is what every cookbook I've ever read said
push the biscuit cutter (drinking glass) straight down, down twist
left over 'rings' get gently patted together and reused, don't knead them!
since I don't eat meat, I use palm fat, it works as well as the old crisco
aldi's shortening will be getting rid of the trans fats soon, too
lard works better than butter, but not for me...

Those scones sound great!
 
Preheat your oven to 375

Take the can firmly in your dominant hand.
Whack it firmly on the edge of the counter
arrange your biscuits on your ungreased pan
Bake for 10-12 minutes, more if you like them darker.

No really the advise that is given here is absolutely correct. Treat your biscuit dough like pie dough. Make sure your shortening is well incorperated, mix your dough just enought to dampen everything. Handle as little as possible. and don't over flour your board.

Now here's a question for you'se guys. My grandma used to make her biscuits with a starter. These are not rolls as in yeast breads, but like a sour dough type of starter. She mixed the dough like you would a baking powder type biscuits, but didn't use anything but the starter as the levening. Mom said that grandma gave her a batch when she married and set up house, but she just couldn't get the biscuits to come put like Grandma's. Grandma made those for years using the same starter where she saved the last biscut in the batch before baking, and threw it back in the jar for next time.

No one in the family, of course, has any of the starter as grandma has been gone for 21 years now, and she had stopped housekeeping 10 years prior to that.

Does anyone know how to start the starter, and do you have a recipe for the biscuits?
 
My scone recipe is as easy as...

4 scant (short) cups of self raising flour
1 heaped teaspoon of baking powder
good pinch of salt
300ml cream - 1/2 pint
200ml lemonade or use soda water for unsweetened/savoury...just short of a cup

- Double sift the dry
- add all the liquid at once
- if a little too wet, add a tad more flour...dry add a little more milk to 'bring together'
- out onto a well floured board and knead 'LIGHTLY'
- punch out with a cutter
- place close together and brush with a little milk
- into a HOT oven for 15minutes ish...
- wrap in a towel to keep warm
 
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