verizonbear
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Looking to replace my digital GE 24" gas oven with something that has more character like 60s stainless Chambers wall oven, any idea where to look?
Where to find a vintage 24" gas wall oven ?
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maytagbear
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Start at the usual places,
like your nearest Habitat ReStore, and Craigslist, and just keep trying and your eyes open, I guess.
Good luck, and I mean that 1000%
Lawrence/Maytagbear
like your nearest Habitat ReStore, and Craigslist, and just keep trying and your eyes open, I guess.
Good luck, and I mean that 1000%
Lawrence/Maytagbear
Looking For a Great 24" Wall Oven
I would look for a GE P-7 Self-Cleaning Electric oven from 1966- the early 1980s if you actually want to use it, otherwise get a vintage gas oven and leave the gas turned off as these older gas ovens pilot lights are nasty smelling and produce a lot of carbon monoxide even when not in use.
I would look for a GE P-7 Self-Cleaning Electric oven from 1966- the early 1980s if you actually want to use it, otherwise get a vintage gas oven and leave the gas turned off as these older gas ovens pilot lights are nasty smelling and produce a lot of carbon monoxide even when not in use.
For a while in the 1980s, Thermador offered 24" wall ovens also; probably rare as hen's teeth, but they are a possibility. I would imagine that a gas oven from the time period you want, if ever connected to gas, would be a pretty rusted mess by now unless it was a match-lit model--always loved that WHUMP at ignition.
danemodsandy
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Kenmore!
Sears took care to offer 24-inchers for quite some time - they were interested in hanging on to customers looking to replace that size. Roper, who made many of Sears' units, also offered 24-inch models at least up into the '80s.
Sears took care to offer 24-inchers for quite some time - they were interested in hanging on to customers looking to replace that size. Roper, who made many of Sears' units, also offered 24-inch models at least up into the '80s.
Looking For a Great 24" Wall Oven
Yes I forgot to mention Thermador Thanks Tom, they offered a great Self-Cleaning 24" oven from about 1966 on into the early 1990s, the neat thing about these TD SC Os was that they had a built in exhaust blower and you vented them out of the house like a clothes dryer so there was almost no hot smokey smell when baking or broiling or cleaning.
They were built in a era when people actually cooked everyday, cooking appliances today have really taken a turn for the worst as many great features are no longer offered such as, automatically temperature controlled top burners on gas and electric ranges, no rotisseries in ovens, ovens have gotten too large today and take too long to preheat and use much more energy, they also do not do as good a job on self-cleaning as they once did.
Sears wall ovens were mostly built by Roper in the 1960s and into the 1980s, Sears cooking appliances were so-so, generally Sears cooking appliances along with their D&M built DWs were weak lines and few few serious appliance shoppers ever bought either.
Yes I forgot to mention Thermador Thanks Tom, they offered a great Self-Cleaning 24" oven from about 1966 on into the early 1990s, the neat thing about these TD SC Os was that they had a built in exhaust blower and you vented them out of the house like a clothes dryer so there was almost no hot smokey smell when baking or broiling or cleaning.
They were built in a era when people actually cooked everyday, cooking appliances today have really taken a turn for the worst as many great features are no longer offered such as, automatically temperature controlled top burners on gas and electric ranges, no rotisseries in ovens, ovens have gotten too large today and take too long to preheat and use much more energy, they also do not do as good a job on self-cleaning as they once did.
Sears wall ovens were mostly built by Roper in the 1960s and into the 1980s, Sears cooking appliances were so-so, generally Sears cooking appliances along with their D&M built DWs were weak lines and few few serious appliance shoppers ever bought either.
firedome
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We just happen...
to have a 1956 Chambers 24" electric oven "Cooks With the Electricity Turned Off" (better and more even baking than gas, we've had 2 Chambers gas ranges as well, and we still have 2 Chambers gas cooktops, a 27" and 42")in Copper finish (not Coppertone paint). It has the exact same insulation and construction as the gas oven models, but more even and consistent heat. We got it for our summer cottage kitchen, but kitchen design plans have changed, and we may not be needing it now.
Here's the truly ammazing thing: it is NOS, never been used! Still has the wrapping paper on the racks and drip pan inside, it is a real museum, piece. We have the manual for it as well. It was bought by some wealthy folks on a lake in Indiana near Chicago and stored in their basement for a kitchen remodel that never happened. We picked it up on the way to Denver several years ago. We're from Baltimore, so get down regularly. If of interest let me know and we can talk.
to have a 1956 Chambers 24" electric oven "Cooks With the Electricity Turned Off" (better and more even baking than gas, we've had 2 Chambers gas ranges as well, and we still have 2 Chambers gas cooktops, a 27" and 42")in Copper finish (not Coppertone paint). It has the exact same insulation and construction as the gas oven models, but more even and consistent heat. We got it for our summer cottage kitchen, but kitchen design plans have changed, and we may not be needing it now.
Here's the truly ammazing thing: it is NOS, never been used! Still has the wrapping paper on the racks and drip pan inside, it is a real museum, piece. We have the manual for it as well. It was bought by some wealthy folks on a lake in Indiana near Chicago and stored in their basement for a kitchen remodel that never happened. We picked it up on the way to Denver several years ago. We're from Baltimore, so get down regularly. If of interest let me know and we can talk.
I'm certain this isn't "vintage", but maybe something like this? (no photo)
lawrence
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/app/3539923650.html
lawrence
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/app/3539923650.html
Here's a vintage 24" Magic Chef wall oven.
lawrence
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271139939052?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
lawrence
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271139939052?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
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1988 Roper B945
Electric.
Sears sold one just like it with the Kenmore name.
Mine still "mostly" works - the digital clock/timer/control center display goes on and off and I have to bang on the side of the control panel to make it come back on.
The control knob for the digital settings is also "wonky" and it's VERY hard to set the time or temperature as it makes the numbers jump all over the place instead of "in order" like they should.
I once looked at getting the digital control replaced (from Sears service) and they quoted a price of over $600!
Also, the oven vent for the upper oven is stupidly located right under the knob for the lower oven.
When cooking "steamy" things, the knob gets all wet.
I take the knob off during the cleaning cycle as the heat discolors it (I've already replaced it twice now...)
I looked into getting a new 24" oven a year or two ago and the choices are few - KitchenAid, GE and Maytag were the only ones that would fit without cabinet modifications. I think Sears had one "Kenmore" model which looked like the GE to me.
Electric.
Sears sold one just like it with the Kenmore name.
Mine still "mostly" works - the digital clock/timer/control center display goes on and off and I have to bang on the side of the control panel to make it come back on.
The control knob for the digital settings is also "wonky" and it's VERY hard to set the time or temperature as it makes the numbers jump all over the place instead of "in order" like they should.
I once looked at getting the digital control replaced (from Sears service) and they quoted a price of over $600!
Also, the oven vent for the upper oven is stupidly located right under the knob for the lower oven.
When cooking "steamy" things, the knob gets all wet.
I take the knob off during the cleaning cycle as the heat discolors it (I've already replaced it twice now...)
I looked into getting a new 24" oven a year or two ago and the choices are few - KitchenAid, GE and Maytag were the only ones that would fit without cabinet modifications. I think Sears had one "Kenmore" model which looked like the GE to me.
norgeway
Well-known member
I have a
68 Caloric Ultra Ray, i might part with.
68 Caloric Ultra Ray, i might part with.
appliguy
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here is a modern 24 inch gas wall oven
with a retro feel to it. It is made by Summit Appliances....PAT COFFEY
http://summitappliance.com/catalog/model/WTM7212KW
with a retro feel to it. It is made by Summit Appliances....PAT COFFEY
http://summitappliance.com/catalog/model/WTM7212KW
Pretty clearly the manufacturer is Brown (Tennessee)
http://www.brownstoveworksinc.com/wallovens/tm721kw.html
http://www.brownstoveworksinc.com/wallovens/tm721kw.html
appliguy
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Wow Jamie your right
I had no idea Brown was still in business thanks for sharing the link to their web site....PAT COFFEY
I had no idea Brown was still in business thanks for sharing the link to their web site....PAT COFFEY
Bill, your description of your wall oven's quirks is too funny. Love the "percussive" method of making the control come back to life and your explaining about the wet knob. I am glad I did not read it at work, because I was howling and bent double with laughter.
norgeway
Well-known member
Brown Stove
Is very much in business, they are the ONLY family owned stove manufacturer left in the US, in addition to the Brown stoves they also make the high end Five Star brand,They are still in an old run down looking factory in Cleveland Tennessee, I have been there and seen it!
Is very much in business, they are the ONLY family owned stove manufacturer left in the US, in addition to the Brown stoves they also make the high end Five Star brand,They are still in an old run down looking factory in Cleveland Tennessee, I have been there and seen it!
verizonbear
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considering this one
It's a modern model, but I like the style
http://www.compactappliance.com/Ver...ml?cgid=Appliances-Ranges_Cooktops-Wall_Ovens
It's a modern model, but I like the style
http://www.compactappliance.com/Ver...ml?cgid=Appliances-Ranges_Cooktops-Wall_Ovens
firedome
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Chambers Steampunk oven
in real Copper... 1956 NOS, still has wrapping paper:
in real Copper... 1956 NOS, still has wrapping paper:
firedome
Well-known member
inside NOS 1956 Chambers In-A-Wall Oven
note unscorched gold paint on the ground cast iron door seals (no silly gaskets on a Chambers!) and paper wrappers still on the pan/rack... "Cooks with the Fuel Turned Off"...the Stainless top can removed for complete in wall use, or can be mounted on top of a cabinet, sides are copper too! No-one makes an oven of this quality today - at ANY price!
note unscorched gold paint on the ground cast iron door seals (no silly gaskets on a Chambers!) and paper wrappers still on the pan/rack... "Cooks with the Fuel Turned Off"...the Stainless top can removed for complete in wall use, or can be mounted on top of a cabinet, sides are copper too! No-one makes an oven of this quality today - at ANY price!
Roper Oven has Died
I think today was my Roper oven's last meal.
I had to do the usual banging on the side of the control panel to get the display to show up.
Then, the usual knob twiddling to get the temperature set properly.
The display then promptly disappeared so I crossed my fingers hoping it WAS set for 400.
When the chicken was done baking, I pressed "cancel" and heard the single beep indicating the oven was off.
A few minutes later, I hear beeping coming from the oven.
I pressed "cancel" again and the beeping stopped.
A minute or so later, more beeping.
I banged on the side of the control panel and saw F-2 on the display.
It also seemed as if the oven was NOT off so I turned off the circuit breaker to the oven.
It looks like the Kitchen Aid KEBC247VBL or Whirlpool RBD245PR are the best choices for replacement.
I don't want manual cleaning and I don't care for "manual" knobs for controls - even for just the lower oven.
A.J. Madison looks like they have good prices, free shipping, and no sales tax.
Anyone bought anything from them before?
I think today was my Roper oven's last meal.
I had to do the usual banging on the side of the control panel to get the display to show up.
Then, the usual knob twiddling to get the temperature set properly.
The display then promptly disappeared so I crossed my fingers hoping it WAS set for 400.
When the chicken was done baking, I pressed "cancel" and heard the single beep indicating the oven was off.
A few minutes later, I hear beeping coming from the oven.
I pressed "cancel" again and the beeping stopped.
A minute or so later, more beeping.
I banged on the side of the control panel and saw F-2 on the display.
It also seemed as if the oven was NOT off so I turned off the circuit breaker to the oven.
It looks like the Kitchen Aid KEBC247VBL or Whirlpool RBD245PR are the best choices for replacement.
I don't want manual cleaning and I don't care for "manual" knobs for controls - even for just the lower oven.
A.J. Madison looks like they have good prices, free shipping, and no sales tax.
Anyone bought anything from them before?
NOT A.J. Madison!
After reading "YELP" reviews for A.J. Madison, I wouldn't buy anything from them.
Nothing but horror stories - poor service, delayed deliveries, damaged goods and packing materials left behind.
I don't think there are any "mom and pop" appliance stores left in my area (San Jose).
Lowes?
Best Buy?
Airline?
I need the old oven taken out and the new one installed - too heavy for me to handle.
????????
After reading "YELP" reviews for A.J. Madison, I wouldn't buy anything from them.
Nothing but horror stories - poor service, delayed deliveries, damaged goods and packing materials left behind.
I don't think there are any "mom and pop" appliance stores left in my area (San Jose).
Lowes?
Best Buy?
Airline?
I need the old oven taken out and the new one installed - too heavy for me to handle.
????????
OOPS!
I meant "Airport" appliance - not "Airline"!
I meant "Airport" appliance - not "Airline"!
philcobendixduo,
You might try Warehouse Discount Center Appliances. They're a local SoCal chain and handle a wide range of appliances. A few years ago my ex-bf bought a house with a challenging laundry room setup - a half-bath had been created leaving only room for a small stacked washer-dryer. WDC's website claimed internet prices even on local deliveries so I called up and chatted with their internet guy who was pleasant and had no problem doing just that. The Frigidaire front-load mini-stack unit arrived as promised and has done a good job since.
A year or so later while working on a remodel for a client in Santa Monica I had to redesign the pantry to fit a very small apartment sized refrigerator-freezer with an icemaker. GE had the only reasonable unit and WDC had a good price (albeit still expensive, it was quite an oddball refrigerator and not handled by many retailers). Again I called up and talked to the internet guy who gave me the total price, which I forwarded to my client. She made the deal and it arrived as promised. You would of course have to pay sales tax, but CA is getting very nasty with even out of state businesses on this.
http://www.wdcappliances.com
You might try Warehouse Discount Center Appliances. They're a local SoCal chain and handle a wide range of appliances. A few years ago my ex-bf bought a house with a challenging laundry room setup - a half-bath had been created leaving only room for a small stacked washer-dryer. WDC's website claimed internet prices even on local deliveries so I called up and chatted with their internet guy who was pleasant and had no problem doing just that. The Frigidaire front-load mini-stack unit arrived as promised and has done a good job since.
A year or so later while working on a remodel for a client in Santa Monica I had to redesign the pantry to fit a very small apartment sized refrigerator-freezer with an icemaker. GE had the only reasonable unit and WDC had a good price (albeit still expensive, it was quite an oddball refrigerator and not handled by many retailers). Again I called up and talked to the internet guy who gave me the total price, which I forwarded to my client. She made the deal and it arrived as promised. You would of course have to pay sales tax, but CA is getting very nasty with even out of state businesses on this.
http://www.wdcappliances.com
Warehouse Discount Centers
I read their reviews on YELP as well and they're all bad (for the most part).
I wouldn't risk it despite the attractive pricing.
As much as I hate to buy at Sears, I guess that would be the "safest" bet since they're "local".
I wouldn't have them install it - I found a local person HIGHLY rated that will do it for less (and better, no doubt).
Sad but true - what ever replacement oven I buy for whatever price is NEVER going to give 25 years of service as my old Roper did.
I read their reviews on YELP as well and they're all bad (for the most part).
I wouldn't risk it despite the attractive pricing.
As much as I hate to buy at Sears, I guess that would be the "safest" bet since they're "local".
I wouldn't have them install it - I found a local person HIGHLY rated that will do it for less (and better, no doubt).
Sad but true - what ever replacement oven I buy for whatever price is NEVER going to give 25 years of service as my old Roper did.
Vintage GE wall oven
As I continue to shop for a new 24" electric double oven, I came across this GE on YouTube.
It looks a lot like the 1967 Hotpoint that was in my house when I moved here in 1970.
It's for sale but it comes with a house attached!
As I continue to shop for a new 24" electric double oven, I came across this GE on YouTube.
It looks a lot like the 1967 Hotpoint that was in my house when I moved here in 1970.
It's for sale but it comes with a house attached!
"sunburst brown"??? Excuse me, mister know-it-all, but if you really knew your vintage appliances from a hole in the ground, you would know that it is/was "coppertone".
I hate phoney intelligence.
lawrence
I hate phoney intelligence.
lawrence
24" Double Electric Ovens
Bill the link you posted is a 27" GE oven. To my knowledge GE never made a 24" double electric [ or gas ] wall oven.
The best bets for a new 24" double are a WP or KA, best bets for classic are 24" Thermadors, maybe Frigidaire or Hotpoint depending on how far you want to go back.
Bill the link you posted is a 27" GE oven. To my knowledge GE never made a 24" double electric [ or gas ] wall oven.
The best bets for a new 24" double are a WP or KA, best bets for classic are 24" Thermadors, maybe Frigidaire or Hotpoint depending on how far you want to go back.
Sad state of today's quality
Thanks for the comments - yes GE probably no 24" but Hotpoint - yes (since I had a 1967 model)
Vintage oven? No thanks. I NEVER want to have to clean an oven again, thank you!
I went to "Pacific Sales" Thursday and saw both the KitchenAid and Whirlpool 24" electric double ovens.
Both had SHOCKINGLY poor assembly quality and appearance.
The Whirlpool (at $1500 list) had a lower oven gasket of VERY poor quality rubber that was not even fully attached to the oven opening.
The KitchenAid (at $2400 list) had fraying ends of the door gaskets sticking out from behind a metal piece at the bottom.
Both had very cheap and poor looking vents sticking out above each oven door - a high school metal shop student could have done better.
Both also have a a control panel of cheap looking matte finish plastic and doors that appear very thin.
It's obvious both are built on the same "chassis".
I imagine Maytag is no better since it's also built by Whirlpool.
Then, there are the many issues you can read about online about KitchenAid ovens being inoperable after the self-clean cycle due to the thermal fuse blowing. The fuse is located at the back of the oven and the whole oven has to be removed from the oven cabinet in order to replace it.
KitchenAid's response to owners? DON'T USE the self-clean feature!!
Many Whirlpool oven owners complain of the same AND of the control board "going out" after only a year or two (usually right after the warranty).
The GE 24" double electric oven is starting to look better despite it's "knob" control.
Thanks for the comments - yes GE probably no 24" but Hotpoint - yes (since I had a 1967 model)
Vintage oven? No thanks. I NEVER want to have to clean an oven again, thank you!
I went to "Pacific Sales" Thursday and saw both the KitchenAid and Whirlpool 24" electric double ovens.
Both had SHOCKINGLY poor assembly quality and appearance.
The Whirlpool (at $1500 list) had a lower oven gasket of VERY poor quality rubber that was not even fully attached to the oven opening.
The KitchenAid (at $2400 list) had fraying ends of the door gaskets sticking out from behind a metal piece at the bottom.
Both had very cheap and poor looking vents sticking out above each oven door - a high school metal shop student could have done better.
Both also have a a control panel of cheap looking matte finish plastic and doors that appear very thin.
It's obvious both are built on the same "chassis".
I imagine Maytag is no better since it's also built by Whirlpool.
Then, there are the many issues you can read about online about KitchenAid ovens being inoperable after the self-clean cycle due to the thermal fuse blowing. The fuse is located at the back of the oven and the whole oven has to be removed from the oven cabinet in order to replace it.
KitchenAid's response to owners? DON'T USE the self-clean feature!!
Many Whirlpool oven owners complain of the same AND of the control board "going out" after only a year or two (usually right after the warranty).
The GE 24" double electric oven is starting to look better despite it's "knob" control.
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