Which are the Best Sellers of your country?

[nrones]

What are the best sellers between washers, washer-dryers, tumble dryers, and dishwashers in your country?

In Serbia (info from major appliance dealer Tehnomanija.rs - Najprodavaniji (which on Serbian means bestsellers):

Washing machines - Gorenje WA 60065 (600rpm - 6.2kg)
Washer-dryers - Candy GOW 264 D (1200rpm - 6wash/4dry)
Tumble dryers - Candy GOC 580 B (8kg - B class condenser)
Dishwashers - Bosch SGS 53E92EU (12 settings - simple)

You can see them all in the picture

P.S
I adore competition on market. Today I found out that besides Gorenje and Candy - Beko, VOX (vestel made) and Indesit company also provide 5 year full parts and labor guarantee!

Don't forget to share info from your country!

 

[jlbrazil]

Brazil.

Hey guys, here is the list of the best selling machines where I live.
I picked the biggest store in my state (São Paulo), "www.fastshop.com.br".

So, here it is:

Washing Machine - Brastemp Ative BWL11AB ( 11kg and 750 RPM )
Washer-dryer - Samsung WD8854RJF ( 8,5kg wash-5kg dry and 1400 RPM )
Tumble Dryer - Brastemp Ative BSR10AB ( 10kg of dump clothes .. It might be 5,5kg of dry clothes, dunno.)
Dishwasher - Electrolux LE12B ( 12 place settings.)

This Brastemp washing machine initially was a disaster because of it's suspension system (the machine would jump around the laundry room when spinning, even when empty), but after some months Brastemp made a recall and nowadays it works flawlessly. This machine is the best seller since it was launched. Brastemp (Whirlpool) sold more than 1 million of it, because it's cheap and efficient.

Here in Brazil washer-dryers are selling ALOT, mostly in São Paulo ( Big city, small flats and even smaller laundry rooms!). Since the laundry room are ridiculously small, people do not have space to hang clothes or have separeta washer and tumble dryer. The best option, of course, is to buy a combo machine.
The Samsung washer-dryer is selling alot nowadays ( LG used to be the king of washer-dryers here in the past ), but since LG presented they're new range over here (Six Motion) and they are more expensive than the "old" range, Samsung is the better way. Here in Brazil we basically have LG and Samsung competing in the front loader market. Brastemp recently launched the new Whirlpool Duet pair, but it's more of a premium product than these simple washer-dryers. Also, Electrolux sell the Eco Turbo pair (The old 2001 Affinity .. lol), but it's sell almost nothing. Electrolux and Brastemp also have they're chinese washer-dryers, but theses ones just give problems after problems.

Tumble dryers and Dishwashers here in Brazil aren't a really significant appliances, since people wash they're dishes by hand and we have really good weather. These days they're selling alot more dishwashers than they used to sell 5 years ago since it's price has droped alot, but it's still a small market. Tumble dryers are even worse, almost no sell.
These Brastemp tumble dryer is a really really old project, and takes forever to dry a load, but since Brastemp is a symbol of quality and reliability, this model is the best selling dryer.
This Electrolux dishwasher sells just because of it's price, because it's ugly and chinese made.

Regards,
João.

 

[thomasortega]

I completelly agree with the post above, however, this is going to start changing in exactly 19 days...
tick tack tick tack tick tack...

A HUGE revolution is about to happen in Brazil with a washer dryer that costs much less than a korean crap and lasts at least 3 times more.

Want more? it uses LOOOOOOOOOOTS of water to rinse and the 7kg capacity drum is the same size as it's Korean explosive competitor's washer/dryer simply by reducing the rated capacity and keeping it close to the reality. Room enough for clothes to move freely AND still saves a lot of water if compared to a standard top loader. It will be the best cost vs benefit equation on the market as soon as the price gets stable after the launching. It's like buying a washer paying less for it and also get a free dryer.

 

[jlbrazil]

thomasortega

Thomas, almost 2 years has passed and I'm still waiting for this revolution to happen. lol

 

[hotpointwma64]

unfortunately

unfortunately in the uk the best sellers are hoover and hotpoint for their previously good name. rarely do they have satisfied customers after a year or 2 though but thankfully LG and Beko are creeping in alot more.

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Quote: "unfortunately in the uk the best sellers are hoover and hotpoint for their previously good name. rarely do they have satisfied customers after a year or 2 though but thankfully LG and Beko are creeping in alot more. "
Do you have Evidence of this?? I am a proud Hotpoint owner, both old and new, I would never look elsewhere after the fantastic experience I've had. You do realise that whats mentioned on Facebook or shops etc, isn't actually true, people that enjoy their machines tend not to write about it. as Hotpoint said at least 4 in every 5 households have at least 1 Hotpoint product, and putting that into perspective versus complaint numbers, you'll see that over 85% probably happy.
As for Beko, well my experience is totally crap [Though they are certainly improving, but as is Hotpoint], and after all the problems with LG in America, I'd steer clear (My Opinion). Just so you know 85% is more than Rarely!!!
Most even on this site have had fantastic experience with the new Hotpoints.
Bosch are certainly great machines to choose, though some rather loud (shouldn't bother people who've had older machines), they are built well, and offer excellent results.

Small print - Figure is an average.

 

[dascot]

If you look at quantitative data, you can see from surveys such as those done by Which? that Hotpoint and Hoover still are a bit behind other manufacturers in terms of reliability, though both are considerably better than they were in the past. Hoover is currently the only brand that they hold reliability data on that has a low enough score that they would not be recommended. Interestingly in that survey, there were three times as many Bosch machines than Hotpoints. I would steer clear of stating figures if I were you, unless there is a definitive source, as your 85% is completely meaningless and irrelevant.

I haven't been able to find exact recent market data, but did find an article from about 18 months ago stating that Beko had the lead in terms of market share.

The top 5 selling machines via AO.com are currently one each of Bosch, Hotpoint, Zanussi, Beko and Samsung.

 

[haxisfan]

I cannot agree more with the last 2 posts!

That's right... it's absolutely not unfortunate that these brands are the best sellers in this country... and it's not casual either!

I'm most definitely going to sound rhetorical here, but I'll never get tired of highlighting my satisfaction and enthusiasm for the Hoover brand... so much that when I bought my first Hoover group appliance over a decade ago, it was just a gamble... then it became an adventure... and today it's a full-fledged conversion with no regrets! Having said that, I'd add that sadly Hoover is not the best selling brand in the UK as suggested by HotpointWMA64, although it has a substancial slice of the market.

 

[robliverpool]

Beko

I've had a few brand new hotpoint appliances and I have been really disappointed with the performance with the exception of my hotpoint fridge freezer. I've always slated Beko in the past but I've been really impressed with them the past few years. I have the washing machine electric fan oven and dishwasher all by Beko and they all work really quickly and in my opinion do a better job than hotpoints.
Almost everyone I know now has a Beko washing machine cos I've told them how
Good mine has been. I always go for mid priced Beko and so far so good. ariston or whatever they call themselves have ruined the good name they once had

 

[hotpointwma64]

that is your opinion this is mine.

Glenfield there is no need to get jumped up and quote me as if i am lying or trying to cause anything bad so please do not do it.
my opinion is based on the fact that i am an appliance engineer working for a company that gets broken washing machines to refurbish and sell off. we get a huge delivery every friday and therefore get a big range of machines to scrap/ refurbish.
Hotpoint and Indesit that come in more than 95% of the time have a drum bearing problem and i believe that my experience is enough 'proof' to pretty much call them useless junk.(this only applies to the useless sealed drum machines)
To be honest, i would actually say they are a whole lot worse than hoover and candy, because less often do we have them with broken bearings, and when we do its usually nextras with replacable bearings/drums anyway. although we have had a couple of dynamics and visions with siezed bearings already so they arent much better.

My opinion on bosch has now completely changed aswell, the new exxcels have proved to declined in quality dramatically, we have one right now that needs a new drum because the bearings have gone in it, where as normally its only the chinese maxx ones that come in like that, however this could even be newer than some of the chinese ones we get with a snapped spider/ broken bearings!

please take this into consideration before you tell me im wrong about everything i say, just because i dislike hotpoint.

regards.

 

[turnamat]

For Germans,the Lavamat from AEG is still the most popular,followed by the Siemens/Bosch brand!For anyone that is able to spend more money on appliances,Miele still is a popular choice because of their well known quality.Brands like Beko,Candy or Indesit are still basic brands and never got very popular over here,the same with asian machines!

 

[hotpointwma64]

miele

are mieles expensive in germany? i was just wondering because if they are made in germany then there isnt a cost for shipping etc and marketing in different countries. in the uk they are usualy £1000+ so is it a similar price in germany?

 

[passatdoc]

@hotpointwma64

Another factor, besides shipping (and customs, outside of the EU) is the manner of distribution. In the USA, Miele appliances are sold only through a very closely controlled network of Miele dealers. The vacuum cleaners are sold through a network of Miele vacuum stores; you never see them in a general merchandise or "big box" store. Some of the vacuum stores also sell dishwashers and washing machines. Some appliance stores that sell varied brands of washers and DWs also sell Miele, but in general these are upscale appliance stores that cater to higher end customers, not national chain stores that tend to discount their products. Anyone caught discounting a Miele is usually cut out of the network, so you never see discounts unless it is company authorized, in which case all of the Miele stores may choose to offer the same discount (some don't). Some of the Miele price tag is due to the higher quality, some of it is removal of the laws of supply and demand due to price controls.

Bosch took an entirely different approach to the US market. They built a factory in the USA and priced their products to compet with KitchenAid, considered one of the "prestige" brands in the USA. Their entry level machines are priced roughly the same as KA, as are their high end machines. They can't compete at bargain levels, but for people who can spend $600-1000 for a DW, they are quite competitive and always finish #1 in Consumer Reports ratings. Their products are sold by giant national chain stores (Best Buy, Lowes Hardware) to the point where they are almost thought of as being a domestic brand. In addition, parts and service are much easier to come by than with limited distribution brands such as Miele.

What I can't figure out is what went wrong with Bosch's foray into the US washing machine market. They built US-sized front load machines (70 cm wide vs 60 cm Euro size) but they received poor reviews and have been discontinued. Perhaps the US-sized machines were rushed to market without proper engineering. You can still buy Euro-sized Bosch washers here, for under counter use in kitchens or laundry rooms, and they have a niche market in smaller apartments (say NYC where the only possible location is in the kitchen, as in older European homes), but most contemporary US homes have a dedicated laundry room or area, built on the assumption that the washer and dryer are each 27 in/70 cm wide (in some settings, there is provision to stack the machines, but again usually the space will be 27 in/70 cm wide).

 

 

[turnamat]

The cheapest basic Miele Start at about 850€!For a basic AEG for Siemens-Bosch You pay about 350-450€!So almost half of it!For a higher level machine,You have differences from 1000€ or more!So you have to decide for yourself if it is worth!

 

[foraloysius]

Cheapest Miele in the Netherlands is €699.- without delivery. It spins with 1400rpm and is rated as a 7kg machine.

The cheapest 7kg AEG with 1400rpm is €496.-

The cheapest Bosch with 7kg capacity and 1400rpm is €444.-

The cheapest of all 7kg machines with 1400rpm is an Indesit: €263.-

The cheapest of all machines is an Everglades, 5kg, 1000rpm: €199.-

Most expensive in the category 7kg and 1400rpm is a Miele: €1699.-

And the most expensive of all machines is a Professional Miele machine: €4633.