Who says compuerization is progress?

[rexaircollector]

Toggles

LOVED the clip. To quote the dearly beloved Weekend Update journalist, Roseanne Roseannadanna, "Well, I thought I was gonna DIE!" Most of my education involved attending Perochial school, having a 4 year break from it in high school, only to resume my formal education at a Catholic college (grandmother's wishes...she paid for it).

You guys have summed it all up so I will not be rhetoric. I will say that I was privy to the questionable behavior Ralph illustrated, having been hit on by a Jesuit Priest while in college. Just call me another "recovered Roman Catholic".

Robb

 

[toggleswitch]

Real window. Big mistake.

 

[toggleswitch]

Are Spaniards techincally Latinos?

 

[rp2813]

OMG that window reminds me of a halloween costume I saw a guy wearing when the scandal was in full swing a couple of years ago. He wore a priest's vestments and had one of those little kid dolls you sometimes see leaned up against something, the kind that are all cap and no face, and it was fastened in such a way as to have its head right in his crotch! Best costume at the party!

Sorry Togs, I can't keep myself from bashing one of the world's richest and seriously corrupt organizations that goes around begging for more money like they don't have an obscene enough amount already. Chalk it up to revenge on the terrorist nuns who inflicted permanent emotional damage on every kid who ever set foot in their classrooms. They did more to turn people off to the church than any sleep-inducing sermon at Sunday mass.

 

[rapunzel]

Are Spaniards techincally Latinos?

Does it matter when they are all gorgeous?

 

[panthera]

Latino

is a made up word to refer to the enormously diverse group of races, ethnic groups and nationalities living on the North- and South American continents.
Just as many Negroes of Caribbean descent enormously resent the term 'African-American', so do lots of Spanish speakers who do not identify with the United States American politically correct terminology du Jour...
The Spanish are Europeans. I have yet to have a student from Spain who identified himself or herself as a Latino or Latina.
Not saying there may not be some such people, just never met any in my 25+ years in Europe.
The question is good, but reminds me of my first experience working with folks in the four corners area - down there black people are considered "Anglo." And, culturally, that makes sense.
One thing I do know about the Spanish, they universally frown down their aquiline noses at the "Spanish" which we speak here in the Southwest...worse than the British are about what is proper English.

 

[dj-gabriele]

OH MIO DIO!

The window... OH MY GOD! *jaws dropping*

 

[toggleswitch]

SUCH CORRUPT MINDS!

The boy is obvioulsy receiving *COUGH* the priest's blessing and is in prayer.

Now, why the other priest feels teh need to hold a video-camera is debatable!

(ducks and runs!)

 

[rp2813]

Keven, there's no question about the difference between the Spanish spoken in Mexico and other parts of Latin (Latino) America as compared to the European or "Cathtillian" dialect. There is also a difference between what's spoken in Mexico/Latin America and what passes for Spanish in the Southwestern U.S. The intonations and emphasis of Mexican Spanish are quite detectable even from that of the Spanish spoken further south.

Personally, I prefer the sound of Latin American Spanish and can understand it far better than the Thpanish spoken in Thpain. It's 100% subtitles for me when watching an Almodovar movie. I don't think there is any question that the people of Spain are absolutely European.

I have a friend who is of Mexican descent, aka in different periods as "Chicano," "Hispanic," or more recently, "Latino." He advises that the proper term these days is "Latino" but I prefer "Hispanic." I don't think "Hispanic" should be perceived as a slight against the Latin American population but apparently those who have a chip on their shoulder prefer "Latino" and won't hesitate to advise you.

 

[lederstiefel1]

Same to me!
I learnt Spanish during six weeks in Mexico, visiting pen-pals in Mexico-City in 1980.
When I went to Spain for two years for job reasons in 1999-2000, I had big problems to understand the Castillian tongue, especially the one in Andalusia, where I lived.
Mexican Spanish (and American Spanish generally) is very well pronounced and easy to understand and is more the old Spanish from the time of the Conquista. In the beginning in Spain I heard quite often the question: "Ah, Sud-Americano!?"

Ralf

 

[lederstiefel1]

...and concerning the "church(es)" I can only really, really recommend the book "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

It's absolutely fascinating! READ IT!!

Ralf

 

[sudsmaster]

I learned some French in high school. About 10 years later I found myself vagabonding in Mexico and Guatemala, and not knowing much Spanish. What little I knew I think I must have infused with a sort of French accent, because people would listen to my fractured Spanish, look at my quizzically and ask me where I was from. After I got back, I enrolled in a college Spanish course, enough to understand the basics, but haven't been back down there long enough to use it.

It sounds like the Spanish people were not dismissive of your "Sud-Americano" accent. I have heard, however, that some French people are rather dismissive of those who speak Quebecois French - even though, like Mexican Spanish, it retains older forms of the mother tongue.

 

[panthera]

I suspect

the more we insist on labels, the less we will accomplish.
My last year in an American High School, we were supposed to fill in a questionnaire which included such terribly personal questions as our ethnic and racial origins. I refused.

Upon my refusal, I was dragged to the director's offices (Vice-Principal for Discipline) where I was informed that I would be suspended if the form was not completed.

Since I couldn't risk my college scholarship, I caved. Checked the box "other" and wrote in: Denizen of Sol III.

Bastards had to accept it, it was forbidden to change a student's answer...

To my ear, Cuban Spanish is the easiest to understand, Columbian has the prettiest variations - "asia" for "ella" - and much of the Spanish spoken in Spain sounds like someone has a lisp and is light in the loafers.

Yikes - probably gonna have the PC-Police on me back for that one, so, in advance: Dahlinks, I was flaming in mink and boas before you even knew how to flutter your eyelashes. Give it a rest.
Oh, hell, now the fur-freaks are going to be jumping in with the PC-Police, sirens a-blazing.

 

[lederstiefel1]

Rich and Keven

No, Rich, they were absolutely not dismissive but thought first I'd lived once in America for a while because of my accent...lol
The strangest thing happened to me was the year after that holiday/exchange-time in Mexico, when I came back from a back-packer trip throughout Europe, sitting in the train that brought me back from Paris to Germany and an Argentine couple came into my compartment, messing about with the little flyer timetables they found on their seats for connections in Frankfurt/Germany which they could not read. I offered my help and both said immediately: "Are you Mexican? But you don't look like one!"
I had to laugh and explained everything. Finally we all had to laugh and they had got all the information they needed!

French was once nearly my second mother-tongue - made my school-leaving examn in it - and I was much better in French than in English at that time. But I did hardly use French for ages and so I have lost a lot of knowledge since...

Keven, I do agree with you, concerning Spanish!

I cannot believe what I read there about the school report!??
If that would have taken place in my time at school, we'd simply thrown the whole bundle out of the window and had made a sit-in strike for one day if not lynched the director! Nobody could have forced us to give such private information to the school or someone else!
We'd had a riot alarm at school!
And I'm sure that such a questioning is illegal in Germany anyway.

Ralf

 

[maggie~hamilton]

I thot it was "Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet, Cigar"

 

[maggie~hamilton]

http://www.ratemyeverything.net/post/1262/Come_Here_Little_Boy.aspx

 

[58limited]

~I cannot believe what I read there about the school report!??

Similar info is asked on many private and government forms - for demographic data. Also, used on college financial aid applications to see if you are eligible for scholarships and grants based on ethnicity.

My last U.S. Census form that I filled out, I was so fed up with the ethnic breakdowns to choose from (a very long list of hyphenated choices) that I checked "other" and wrote Texan-American.