Wrinkle Guard III Not Working

[blockeight88]

Kenmore Elite Gas Dryer with Electronic Moisture Sensing (yes I know these can be problematic). Anyway, the wrinkle guard setting is not working at the end of the auto moisture sensing plus cycle or timed dry. I have even replaced the entire switch on the control panel. This is what happens:

Set time to auto moisture sensing plus (normal dry), wrinkle guard turned ON. The moisture indication works as it should. When clothes are first put in the dryer, it illuminates “WET” then “DAMP” then the timer clicks off right before wrinkle guard. Clothes still feel very warm and sometimes still even slightly damp. If I advanced the timer a little bit, it will kick back on for about 10 seconds, then shut off. Same issue happens when using timed dry cycle.

The ”COOL DOWN” light never illuminates. What is needed to be replaced to get the wrinkle guard setting going? As state above, replacing the switch itself did not work?

Perhaps a new timer?

 

[combo52]

Wrinkle guard three

It is controlled by the circuit board inside the console That’s probably the most likely problem on this dryer.

It may be N L A so you may have to send it out for rebuilding to somebody like core centric’s

John.

 

[maytag85]

From my experience, moisture sensing cycles never worked, even when my folks bought a Kenmore front loading pair in 2006, the moisture sensor never worked from the get go. Timed drying was the only cycle that was used along with higher or lower temperature settings. Even used my aunt’s old 1999 Whirlpool Ultimate Care II on the moisture sensing cycles and still never dried properly and that’s even with the legendary 29” Whirlpool top filter dryer. Only dryer that worked on the auto dry was a early 1990’s Maytag dryer I once owned (sold it in 2018 and replaced it with the DE306 which is now the 806 dryer with 808 console) and always got everything dried perfectly on the auto dry cycle, once in awhile things would be a tad damp but otherwise everything always came out perfectly dried in that dryer. All the dryers I’ve been using since 2019 have been timed drying only, takes some guess work but once you are used to using timed drying, not an issue.

If I had a Kenmore elite washer from the 2000’s, it would be paired up with a 29” 70 series dryer with a simple thermostatic auto dry, not much that can really fail with a thermostatic auto dry other than the double throw switch thermostat.

 

[blockeight88]

Circuit board

Thanks John. Do you have a part number for the circuitboard? I can’t seem to find one on sears parts direct.

 

[combo52]

Hi Matthew, if you post the model number I can look it up when I’m at work tomorrow. There’s also a part number on the possibly defective board if you just look inside the console.

Hi Sean, your post number two is ridiculous, auto dry cycles, work extremely well, and it really tells a lot about you if you can’t get them to work.

Consumer reports has tested hundreds of dryers over the years and the auto dry cycles work beautifully. they’ve always recommended using them. That’s all I’ve ever used on my dryers that had any type of electronic or auto dry

Time cycles you’re always running the dryer too long or too short of time. No two loads are identical it makes a little sense to use the time cycle except for special circumstances.

If your parents brand new 2006 dryer didn’t work properly why didn’t they have it repaired under warranty , or did their mechanical stupidity just spill over to you?

John

 

[blockeight88]

Reply 4

John,

I believe it's part number 3976627. The model number is 11072994100. I stumbled upon a website that does circuit board repairs. Maybe someone here as used this service before. Is there anything else that can cause the wrinkle guard setting not to turn on?

https://www.partsimple.com/catalog/...H-Ty_pQ4fJdSdWd7r3uW7CRZHNuTtDecaAs3_EALw_wcB

FWIW, I have always had excellent results with auto dry cycles.

 

[qsd-dan]

 or did their mechanical stupidity just spill over to you?

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[appnut]

I've always had no issue with moisture sensing ryers--mine have always been electronic sensors in the rum an always spot on. And that also niclues the level o ryness preferred.

 

[drummerboy928]

Auto Dry

Of the few dryers I've used, from brand new, to a few years old, to a couple decades old, I've never had any issues using Electronic or automatic dry. The only cycles I run on a timed dry, are small loads that may trip up the sensor, such as a really small load of whites. Other than that, I have had no issues with using auto dry.

I am also in the mindset that your issue may be circuit board related, especially if you say that both the wrinkle guard, and cool down sequence lights are not working.

 

[maytag85]

Reply #4

Okay, first of all, it’s kind of insulting to say “or did their mechanical stupidity just spill over to you?” which isn’t only insulting me but my family as well. We tried everything, wiped down the sensor, only dried large loads with the dryness set all the way up, didn’t make a difference. If I made such remarks to you, you’d be quite pissed off, not going to go there since I am not going to stoop down to that level. Simply too mature and wise to say such things.

 

[blockeight88]

Anyone have a link for the circuit board to be rebuilt by co centric?

 

[DADoES]

 
PartSimple is CoreCentric's storefront.

I've used FixYourBoard (for my mother's oven, not a dryer board), they have a 2-year warranty.

This PartsDr listing for PN WPW10116564 has a reference to other PNs for which it's apparently a substitute, which includes 3976627, so perhaps also search it and the other numbers for used items on ebay if that route is a consideration.

 

[blockeight88]

Reply 11

Thank you, Glenn. So do you know what exactly would be done to the circuit board if I sent it off for repair? Do you think this would completely fix the issue?

 

[rinso]

If I dry large loads in my LG dryer, the dryness sensor works perfectly. I do always have to use timed dry cycles for small loads. The moisture sensor won't work at all for those and shuts the dryer off after just a few minutes. I think the most accurate moisture-sensing dryer I've ever owned is an old gas Maytag HOH. I'm thinking it's because the moisture sensors were built into the tub vanes and not just a couple of strips somewhere in the tub. I've also had good luck with thermostatic dryers I've owned, though I'll admit there is a learning curve of where to set the timer between "More Dry" and "Less Dry," but once I did that, they worked acceptably.

 

[maytag85]

Reply #13

The customized Maytag dryer I put together (going to put a 408 auto dry timer in one day once I figure out how to hook it up) which is a CDE806 (C as in Custom). Even though it’s timed drying only it still seems to dry well. Usually set the timer for an hour for smaller and medium loads and yes that is a long time for smaller loads but since I use the low temperature setting, the heat won’t cycle on as often in the last 20 to 15 minutes and usually items are fairly cool once it shuts off. Had a similar experience once I put a low heat cycling thermostat in my DG306, the front of the cabinet would be quite warm to the touch when drying a large load of cottons but after 40 minutes, then would start to gradually get cooler and cooler to the touch and sometimes the burner would be off for a good minute or two before the timer advanced into the cool down which resulted in clothes that were cooled down and were evenly and perfectly dried.

 

[zenithtv]

Assuming the board is the issue with this dryer, most problems with electronic control boards in appliances are due to bad solder joints, bad electrolytic capacitors, or bad relays. This appears to be a simple board with no relays. If you have soldering experience, you could likely repair the board yourself for $0 to $10 in parts.

 

[blockeight88]

Reply 15

Unfortunately, I do not have any type of soldering experience. It’s looking like my only option is to have the part repaired by Cocentric. I hope removing the actual circuitboard is not difficult.

 

[blockeight88]

Circuit Board

Well here is a photo of the circuit board. Fortunately it's not difficult to remove. I'll post back after Cocentric repairs it.

Before I do, is there anything else that could even remotely cause the wrinkle guard setting to not operate correctly? Other than the switch itself.