jasonl
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The ONE appliance I've been waiting all year to try out.
YAY for cool mornings!
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Ahhhh
Get a little closer. Nothing like good ol' fashioned heat from a (Propane) fireplace. Talk about easy to light! Just turn the knob and WHOOSH!
Get a little closer. Nothing like good ol' fashioned heat from a (Propane) fireplace. Talk about easy to light! Just turn the knob and WHOOSH!
Wonderful
Nice flames there Jason.
Nice flames there Jason.
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BRRRRRRR!!
32 degrees in Chicago this morning at 5:30am...We also had a little rain last night that froze on the cars overnight. As I was taking Jack for his walk at 6:30am I looked at my frosty car and decided I should start it and let it warm up!
Its way to early for warming up cars!
The fire looks great Jason, very warm and cozy...
32 degrees in Chicago this morning at 5:30am...We also had a little rain last night that froze on the cars overnight. As I was taking Jack for his walk at 6:30am I looked at my frosty car and decided I should start it and let it warm up!
Its way to early for warming up cars!
The fire looks great Jason, very warm and cozy...
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This is a ventless propane fireplace. Should I open one of the windows in the house to vent or is it safe to use with the windows shut?
This is a ventless propane fireplace. Should I open one of the windows in the house to vent or is it safe to use with the windows shut?
jasonl
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Also, this has been a dream all my life to have a house with a fireplace. I was always jealous of my few friends who had them and how warm and comforting the fire felt. And finally after all these years, I have one. I knew if I was building a house it HAD to have a fireplace. I don't care if they charged extra, BUILD THE DAMN THING.
Should I open one of the windows in the house to vent or is it safe to use with the windows shut?
YES an open window can't hurt.
Unvented combustion heaters are illegal in many jusridictions.
YES an open window can't hurt.
Unvented combustion heaters are illegal in many jusridictions.
veg-o-matic
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Oh, I don't know...
You don't have to open a window every time you use a gas stove.
I love my gas fireplace but I use it very rarely. And I still haven't gotten used to the whole flip-the-switch-and-there's-the-fire aspect.
Mine does have a vent, which is through the wall onto the balcony. When it's really cold out, that vent is like having outdoor heating! Makes winter smoking a lot more comfortable.
Jason, does your fireplace put out a shipload of heat? Mine sure does. Seems like as soon as I turn it on, people start getting sleepy and I have to turn it off again.
veg
You don't have to open a window every time you use a gas stove.
I love my gas fireplace but I use it very rarely. And I still haven't gotten used to the whole flip-the-switch-and-there's-the-fire aspect.
Mine does have a vent, which is through the wall onto the balcony. When it's really cold out, that vent is like having outdoor heating! Makes winter smoking a lot more comfortable.
Jason, does your fireplace put out a shipload of heat? Mine sure does. Seems like as soon as I turn it on, people start getting sleepy and I have to turn it off again.
veg
In a modern tight house, yes you should crack a window, even when just using a gas oven.
In an old house, no.
Ken
In an old house, no.
Ken
hoover1060
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Ok, clueless here...
Why crack a window???
Everything in my house is gas, stove/oven, furnace, dryer, and water heater.
Why crack a window???
Everything in my house is gas, stove/oven, furnace, dryer, and water heater.
vented = good
not vented, be careful.
~Seems like as soon as I turn it on, people start getting sleepy.
~Yes sleepy is one consequence of what can happen when the oxygen in the room is depleted. Even thought the unvented devices are supposed to have an oxygen-depletion sensor, the degradation of indoor air-quality IMHO is still not worth it.
A study took place in England that demonstrated that children who grew up with gas cooking (i.e. generally unvented) have repsiratory ailments at TWICE the rate of children who grew up in a home with an electric cooker.
Jason, why didn't' you go with a vented FP? They vent like a dryer now, so no big deal to install.
not vented, be careful.
~Seems like as soon as I turn it on, people start getting sleepy.
~Yes sleepy is one consequence of what can happen when the oxygen in the room is depleted. Even thought the unvented devices are supposed to have an oxygen-depletion sensor, the degradation of indoor air-quality IMHO is still not worth it.
A study took place in England that demonstrated that children who grew up with gas cooking (i.e. generally unvented) have repsiratory ailments at TWICE the rate of children who grew up in a home with an electric cooker.
Jason, why didn't' you go with a vented FP? They vent like a dryer now, so no big deal to install.
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Yes the fireplace puts all kinds of heat but my concern is does it put off enough carbon monoxide to be dangerous. I guess I need to buy a CO alarm just in case.
*Never operate unvented gas-burning appliances in a closed r
See Linkie
http://www.calpoison.org/public/carbon.html
See Linkie
http://www.calpoison.org/public/carbon.html
OK.
Enough said.
He who has ears, let him hear.
Your body produces some the same gaseous poisons and waste-products during meatabolism (burning of food for energy) as a fossil-fueled appliance.
Why would you want to breathe IN the very same gasses and substances that your body is trying to get rid of and avoid?
http://www.epinions.com/content_2530320516
Enough said.
He who has ears, let him hear.
Your body produces some the same gaseous poisons and waste-products during meatabolism (burning of food for energy) as a fossil-fueled appliance.
Why would you want to breathe IN the very same gasses and substances that your body is trying to get rid of and avoid?
http://www.epinions.com/content_2530320516
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wow, I never would have known that!
I cook pretty often too, never ever use the fan over the stove, and very rarey ever turn on the exhaust fan that I do have in the kitchen. That fan got used way more when I was a smoker!
I do have a ceiling fan in the kitchen thats pretty much always on though, I have a cathedral ceiling, and it takes the heat from the kitchen and disitributes it around. Its great when its cold out!
I do have the carbon monoxide detectors in the house too...
I cook pretty often too, never ever use the fan over the stove, and very rarey ever turn on the exhaust fan that I do have in the kitchen. That fan got used way more when I was a smoker!
I do have a ceiling fan in the kitchen thats pretty much always on though, I have a cathedral ceiling, and it takes the heat from the kitchen and disitributes it around. Its great when its cold out!
I do have the carbon monoxide detectors in the house too...
In the UK, we have to have a vent in the room, fitted into an external wall, wherever there is a gas central heating boiler present.
Also, even without one, we have to have some form of ventilation besides windows. Many newer homes, and some replacement windows, have what are called trickle vents, which are small openings at the tops of window frames. These vents can be closed, however. They allow you to let a little air in without letting a draught in or having to open a window.
We also have carbon monoxide detectors, although they are not a legal requirement.
Lovely fire there, though.
Modern homes in the UK have no fireplaces, but my grandparents’ home had a fireplace in the two rooms – the lounge/living room/family room and the master bedroom. Lovely.
Also, even without one, we have to have some form of ventilation besides windows. Many newer homes, and some replacement windows, have what are called trickle vents, which are small openings at the tops of window frames. These vents can be closed, however. They allow you to let a little air in without letting a draught in or having to open a window.
We also have carbon monoxide detectors, although they are not a legal requirement.
Lovely fire there, though.
Modern homes in the UK have no fireplaces, but my grandparents’ home had a fireplace in the two rooms – the lounge/living room/family room and the master bedroom. Lovely. Also, if there is no vent, then a flu pipe (vertical pipe coming straight from the appliance and out into the opening, usually straight out of the roof or through an existing chimney) must be fitted in the UK.
Back in the late 1980s, our flu pipe from the boiler was found to have cracks in it, and we suffered carbon monoxide poisoning. We knew we were experiencing symptoms, but not a great deal was known back then. We kept saying something was wrong, but the local authority (council), who then owned the house, said there was nothing wrong.
We later called British Gas out, the former nationalised UK-wide gas company (privatised in 1986), and they immediately shut the boiler down, put a “Condemned” sticker on it and insisted that we get the flu pipe replaced, which was a nasty concrete-like thing. It was replaced with a solid metal pipe, and we have had no problems since. A yearly inspection is required for all central heating systems, although this is only a legal requirement in the UK for landlords. If you own your own home, like we do, you do not have to service your boiler, which is silly because we all need to, so regular publicity is issued to warn homeowners.
Anyway, hello – I’ve not spoken directly to many of you yet!
Play it safe with appliances – get them serviced regularly and always ensure they are operated correctly. (Nag nag nag! ;-))
Take care.
Carl
Back in the late 1980s, our flu pipe from the boiler was found to have cracks in it, and we suffered carbon monoxide poisoning. We knew we were experiencing symptoms, but not a great deal was known back then. We kept saying something was wrong, but the local authority (council), who then owned the house, said there was nothing wrong.
We later called British Gas out, the former nationalised UK-wide gas company (privatised in 1986), and they immediately shut the boiler down, put a “Condemned” sticker on it and insisted that we get the flu pipe replaced, which was a nasty concrete-like thing. It was replaced with a solid metal pipe, and we have had no problems since. A yearly inspection is required for all central heating systems, although this is only a legal requirement in the UK for landlords. If you own your own home, like we do, you do not have to service your boiler, which is silly because we all need to, so regular publicity is issued to warn homeowners.
Anyway, hello – I’ve not spoken directly to many of you yet!
Play it safe with appliances – get them serviced regularly and always ensure they are operated correctly. (Nag nag nag! ;-))
Take care.
Carl
