You actually call that rinsing???

[dustin92]

I just picked up a newer Roper/whirlpool top loader, got a great deal on it ($20) because they said it wouldn't spin.. I found out when I got there it wouldn't drain either, and had about 1/3 tub of water. Got it outside and unhooked the hoses from the pump to drain it, and could feel something in the pump. Ended up being a sock. Anyway, got it home and removed the sock, reassembled everything and ran a bleach/hot water load to clean it out, worked fine. I then put a full heavy load in to wash- it filled around 3/4 full, which was a bit low for the load, but acceptable. Washed fine and drained, spun and filled for the rinse, which I wasn't watching. I came in to check on it and it had literally 3 inches of water in the tub, thrashing the clothes at full speed. I can't believe any company would ever sell a machine like that! I ran a second rinse and added some more water and it worked fine, but I'll definitely be adjusting the pressure switches. You could hear the machine laboring and the motor started smelling a bit warm. Shameful. The washer is from 2011. I'll get everything adjusted and filling to proper water level, then find it a new home.

 

[appnut]

If I remember correctly, this was part of the "upped" EPA guidelines.  A non-visible 2nd water level switch is behind the control panel from what I remember.  It can be set for he "std. low" or changed to a high rinse water level and it will fill for that high water level for rinse regardless of water level for wash.   

 

[dustin92]

I did see the second pressure switch in the control panel, definitely going to set it to the higher level, and try to raise the wash level a bit. Direct drive machines aren't meant to be high efficiency machines! I can't imagine the wear and tear on clothes if it was used that way regularly, not to mention the wear on the machine. It's almost like trying to dry agitate a wet load with no water. And the amount of detergent left in clothes would be unreal, talk about skin irritation! After the first "rinse" some of the clothes were still warm from the hot wash. Haul me off to prison for trying to make a washer work as it was *originally* designed!

 

[murando531]

They did the same thing to the last model DD's that GE did to their lower end models before the HydroWave platform came out. At least with the Whirlpool designed machines, you can adjust the hidden water level switch, and there is enough agitation time that you can get a decent deep rinse with every cycle. The GE my mom has is a lower-end model, still with the dual-action agitator, but no fab. softener dispenser, and no Deep Rinse option at all. Every cycle defaults to the same sequence; drain after the wash, but no spin at all, then it fills with about 2-3 inches of water, thrashes the agitator for maybe 10 seconds, then sits for a period of time before draining that water and going into final spin. She has to turn the dial back and run a second cycle just to get rinsed laundry. I checked the parts diagram for that machine in particular but there is no second pressure switch. I think the fill for the so-called "rinse" is timed, so no hope there. You can imagine the dirt ring around the top of the tub and agitator because of the dirty water and detergent that never get rinsed away.

 

[dustin92]

It may still need a bit of tweaking, but I raised the wash level to the second row of holes and the rinse level to about the 4th row of holes (about where the wash level was previously) and just washed a queen size comforter with room to spare (although not much, but it did turn over pretty well). Will run a few normal loads and see how it works, may raise the rinse level to the wash level. Seems to be working great now!