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[speedqueen]

@wft2800

I must reiterate, I have no problem with Euro style FL machines, they have a far better clothes to water ratio than US front loaders. 2 gallons of water and 5 cubic feet of clothes just isn't a good idea.

I contest your claim of almost no turnover, an old design SQ has as good of turnover as any machine ever made that doesn't use a DA agitator. Only overloaded is there any trouble. When we first go our SQ, the tub indexed a little but it didn't even take a month for it to stop. As GusHerb said, rinsing isn't that bad, I know I have complained on it in the past but that was with due consideration to even older machines with no water restrictions(MT A207), when compared to more contemporary competition, like an HE TL, the rinsing is very good.

Have you ever used a Speed Queen top load washer?

 

[toploader55]

Old School SQ anemic ???



Indexing ???

 

[Chetlaham]

@wft2800: Its safe to say you have not used a Speed Queen washer for any length of time. In fact most people on here who bash Speed Queen always seem to drag up stereotypical myths as an excuse which daily users know not to be the case. Let me clarify:

1. Indexing: Yes the tub indexes for a month or two when brand new. After that the tub won't budge. Look at any You-tube video of other than a month old Speed Queen.

2. Turn over. Again, not true. The machine has excellent, complete turnover.

3. Rinsing isn't that bad. I can think of worse rinsers.

Say what you will, but abolishing EPA regs is the right thing.

 

[wft2800]

Toploader55, that's a MUCH older SQ than what I'm talking about... the modern(ish) machines now being discontinued.

Yeah, I've seen them in a few public laundries here, they never seem to last long and even well-used still don't seem to work that well.

 

[lorainfurniture]

I’ve had the queens for a while

About 6 months in my home. The TL washer has some turnover, about what you would expect from a one piece agitator. The indexing thing is gone after 10 loads.

It is a poor rinser. I don’t even understand how that is even possible given the water usage. My wife would always complain about it and had to do constant second and even third rinse.

I would wager that the poor rinsing has more to do with ice cold rinse water and the agitation.

 

[DADoES]

 
Rinsing is about extraction and dilution moreso than lengthy agitation.  The load absorbs the rinse fill(s) for the dilution part and the extraction from the spin(s) is a key factor.

 

[toploader55]

wft2800...

Ha ! I'm old so that's the definition of "old school" to me ; )

 

[norgeway]

If everyone stopped

Buying new junk and did like me and used vintage, the companies would HAVE to go back to quality products, I just refuse to buy that junk!My 80s Rimflo Hotpoint does just fine!

 

[yogitunes]

we have all tweaked them in our own way, just to improve some results.....

for the Speed Queen:

1. clothes pin trick on lid switch

2. drill out the HOT side of the valve for a 50/50 mix

3. increase water level for a full load

4. increase tension on belt....quicker and faster spin out, especially for the wash/spin, the more water spun out, the less suds/residue left for the rinse cycle..

a full high speed final spin extracts more water as well for drying.......

the new 2018 Speed Queens, despite all the skepticism of its new design, is all about DEPENDABILITY, and like Maytag, the machine is built for longevity....Maytag washers were never known for vigorous washing action, it was known for gentle washing, and dependable longevity...sounds like history repeating itself...

 

[speedqueen]

All about longevity

Their taking it WAY too far with this one. Even a Maytag set to slow isn't this bad.

I may just have to second Hans' motion for vintage.