Would you buy an handmade washing machine?

[evilworld]

Hello,I've became obsessed by pakistani washing machine, they make almost everything from scratch and it is so fascinating to me.
Sure these models are simple and have no heating elements but they look so different from what we have here in Italy and i am sure that these models are long lasting

 

[ea56]

Well, I suppose it would be better than beating clothes on a rock at the riverside. But who’s gonna have the strength to haul that heavy, wet carpet outta the washing machine tub, wring it out, even with a hand wringer that would be a BIG job, then you’d have to empty the tub, refill with rinse water and then wring it out again.

If the machine had an attached, powered wringer then this would be a great basic washing machine for people that were very poor and had no hookups for an automatic washing machine.

But that being said I admire their ingenuity.

Eddie

 

[evilworld]

Well, I suppose it would be better than beating clothes on a rock at the riverside. But who’s gonna have the strength to haul that heavy, wet carpet outta the washing machine tub, wring it out, even with a hand wringer that would be a BIG job, then you’d have to empty the tub, refill with was water and then wring it out again.

If the machine had an attached, powered wringer then this would be a great basic washing machine for people that were very poor and had no hookups for an automatic washing machine.

But that being said I admire their ingenuity.

Eddie

most of pakistan is desertic so their clothing is probably light but yeah drying a heavy blanket washed in that machine is tough, but as you said better that washing it in una tub by hand

 

[phillymatt53]

Have one of those........um.....things...........sent over to Chetlaham's crib.

 

[thatwasherguy]

Wow, talk about a simple design! That machine makes my late 30’s Maytag wringer washer look downright complicated! It’s fascinating, seeing those materials go from rolls of steel and a pile of hardware to a fully functioning washing machine in a matter of minutes. Thanks for sharing!

ea56…
I agree, I think that the #1 improvement to be made to this machine would be either a power wringer, or a twin tub setup like the Easy Spindrier. Heck, maybe they could even sell a separate stand alone spin drier to go with it. I also think it’d be cool if they put a dishwasher type heating element in the bottom of the tub to make hot water washes easier, and added an electric drain pump. If they did a drain pump, maybe they could even have an option for it to run in reverse and have a recirculating lint filter.

Thatwasherguy.

 

[phillymatt53]

I found this online - it's their Super Deluxe model!
It even has a top control panel!
And I gotta love the cardboard "padding" inside the cabinet.
Now THAT'S Quality Design!...... Maytag!..... eat your hearts out!

 

[jmm63]

The only thing that kept coming to mind was being electrocuted !

 

[phillymatt53]

The only thing that kept coming to mind was being electrocuted !

In that culture they don't appear to worry about the fears that we don't take for granted.
It's more of a primitive lifestyle.
Even their travel standards are not what we would consider comfortable or safe.

 

[evilworld]

Have one of those........um.....things...........sent over to Chetlaham's crib.

How? The shipment alone would be incredibly expensive

 

[evilworld]

The only thing that kept coming to mind was being electrocuted !

That's why the motor is mounted on a piece of wood and not on metal

 

[phillymatt53]

How? The shipment alone would be incredibly expensive

I was being a bit humorous.

 

[phillymatt53]

That's why the motor is mounted on a piece of wood and not on metal

Is that what the makers of that contraption actually said?
And when that hunk of bare wood gets weakened by moisture and warps, then what?
Has any proper grounding been implimented?... I doubt it.
Here in America we have strict electrical codes, and would not permit such a thing.

 

[Chetlaham]

I applaud these people, and perhaps one day they will also start making fully automatic designs based on vintage US models as the economy in that market grows.

 

[Chetlaham]

Is that what the makers of that contraption actually said?
And when that hunk of bare wood gets weakened by moisture and warps, then what?
Has any proper grounding been implimented?... I doubt it.
Here in America we have strict electrical codes, and would not permit such a thing.

Strict? I can still get heaters and toaster ovens without an equipment ground.

 

[Chetlaham]

That's why the motor is mounted on a piece of wood and not on metal

I call that double insulation

 

[Chetlaham]

Wow, talk about a simple design! That machine makes my late 30’s Maytag wringer washer look downright complicated! It’s fascinating, seeing those materials go from rolls of steel and a pile of hardware to a fully functioning washing machine in a matter of minutes. Thanks for sharing!

ea56…
I agree, I think that the #1 improvement to be made to this machine would be either a power wringer, or a twin tub setup like the Easy Spindrier. Heck, maybe they could even sell a separate stand alone spin drier to go with it. I also think it’d be cool if they put a dishwasher type heating element in the bottom of the tub to make hot water washes easier, and added an electric drain pump. If they did a drain pump, maybe they could even have an option for it to run in reverse and have a recirculating lint filter.

Thatwasherguy.

Personally I would at least want an electric drain pump, water valve and automatic cycle timer.

Basically have it fill, wash, drain, fill, rinse, drain, fill, rinse, drain.

Next model up would have a spin cycle.

In any case these models are better than nothing and for those washing in buckets these do make the wash portion a lot quicker and easier.

 

[phillymatt53]

Strict? I can still get heaters and toaster ovens without an equipment ground.

Chet, heaters and toaster ovens aren't used in situations where water is part of the operation.
Besides, they do used polarized plugs.

 

[phillymatt53]

I call that double insulation

I call that a danger waiting to happen.

 

[phillymatt53]

Personally I would at least want an electric drain pump, water valve and automatic cycle timer.

Basically have it fill, wash, drain, fill, rinse, drain, fill, rinse, drain.

Next model up would have a spin cycle.

In any case these models are better than nothing and for those washing in buckets these do make the wash portion a lot quicker and easier.

I can see a wife wearing those sandels standing on a splashed up wet dirt floor in some shack holding that machine still, and what kind of leaked voltage might tingle her toes.
"Underwriters Laboratories Approved"

 

[Chetlaham]

Chet, heaters and toaster ovens aren't used in situations where water is part of the operation.
Besides, they do used polarized plugs.

Water is part of the equation- wet hands, sinks, a pot of water boiling over a burner- thats why code in Kitchens was among one of the first areas to require GFCIs.

 

[Chetlaham]

I can see a wife wearing those sandels standing on a splashed up wet dirt floor in some shack holding that machine still, and what kind of leaked voltage might tingle her toes.
"Underwriters Laboratories Approved"

The outlets over there tend to have 30ma RCD protection.

However, In all fairness those washers really do need an equipment ground.

 

[phillymatt53]

The outlets over there tend to have 30ma RCD protection.

However, In all fairness those washers really do need an equipment ground.

Tend?
I'm sure, like anywhere, those protection devices are not mandated or inspected.
Someone I know from Vietnam told me that at night, the power lines were tapped into to "steal" power so people could use their devices.

 

[qsd-dan]

I bet the washing performance and reliability are better than 90% of current US top loaders.

 

[Chetlaham]

Tend?
I'm sure, like anywhere, those protection devices are not mandated or inspected.
Someone I know from Vietnam told me that at night, the power lines were tapped into to "steal" power so people could use their devices.

Key word. They are often mandated, but enforcement is rather something else.

I still admire the passion and entrepreneurial nature of these manufacturing places. It is the start of capitalism and how people and a nation are lifted out of poverty.

 

[Chetlaham]

I bet the washing performance and reliability are better than 90% of current US top loaders.

You see it!

If US manufacturers with their knowledge, tools, experience and resources had the freedom and charisma that these cowboys had they would be able to produce a washing machine that out cleans any combo or direct drive ever produced while lasting 60+ years. It is why I have so much respect because the rogue manufacturers are the seeds to the appliance renaissance.

 

[phillymatt53]

I bet the washing performance and reliability are better than 90% of current US top loaders.

Watching the video, they're cutting the tub with shears out of thin flexable sheet metal - looks like roof flashing, and easily dented if you watch them insert the drain hose on the bottom.
The supports are simple angle steel too.
How can that tub hold up over time? Being exposed to the weight of gallons of water and clothes swishing around.
The outer cabinets are also thin sheet metal.
The one guy picks the whole machine up with one arm.
Now compare the washers made here with the heavy porcelain coated tubs.

Sorry, I give those guys credit for trying to make such a product, but it's a sad replica of a factory produced machine.

 

[qsd-dan]

Now compare the washers made here with the heavy porcelain coated tubs.

At least the tub is metal and not plastic like the outer tubs in virtually everything else today except Speed Queen.

That agitator and its 180 degree wash action is reminiscent of old school washers and is definitely better than just about anything today. Transmission probably overbuilt compared to today's under designed junk. The cherry on top is the lack of a pestering VM groan or the clickty clack of a DD in its wash action. Full control of the water level. No control board to shit the bed in 1 year, costing half the original price of the machine when new...on back order or obsoleted. No junky suspension rods that need replacing on a regular basis. No plastic splutch or crappy underdesigned mode shifter to strip or die. No agitator dogs that need replacing. No snubers to grease or replace. No water pump to die. No lid lock or lid switch to replace. No water valve to replace. Only a couple of seals and a hose to potentially leak water. Simple, easy tear down and repairs.

I'll still take this.

 

[Chetlaham]

At least the tub is metal and not plastic like the outer tubs in virtually everything else today except Speed Queen.

That agitator and its 180 degree wash action is reminiscent of old school washers and is definitely better than just about anything today. Transmission probably overbuilt compared to today's under designed junk. The cherry on top is the lack of a pestering VM groan or the clickty clack of a DD in its wash action. Full control of the water level. No control board to shit the bed in 1 year, costing half the original price of the machine when new...on back order or obsoleted. No junky suspension rods that need replacing on a regular basis. No plastic splutch or crappy underdesigned mode shifter to strip or die. No agitator dogs that need replacing. No snubers to grease or replace. No water pump to die. No lid lock or lid switch to replace. No water valve to replace. Only a couple of seals and a hose to potentially leak water. Simple, easy tear down and repairs.

I'll still take this.

Yup, well said.

The thing is, if you stuck a pump on top of the motor (which is already capable of reversing), added a direction activated neutral gear in the transmission, pressure switch, fill valve and EM timer you'd have a fully automatic washer minus the lack of spin.

And given the lack of suspension, outer tub, clutch, brake and basket drive a relatively compact machine can fit a full size load of laundry.

For some folks that is way better than doing laundry in a sink or bucket.

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

Well, if any answer is Yes, but not that one, then that means building your own UL-approved one, then…

Mine, with an avocado green cabinet, knobs, buttons, toggle switches and all…

I’ll let you know when it goes to market, but I can’t promise that yellow card has 2025-approved EER-standards… —

 

[william8]

At least the tub is metal and not plastic like the outer tubs in virtually everything else today except Speed Queen.

That agitator and its 180 degree wash action is reminiscent of old school washers and is definitely better than just about anything today. Transmission probably overbuilt compared to today's under designed junk. The cherry on top is the lack of a pestering VM groan or the clickty clack of a DD in its wash action. Full control of the water level. No control board to shit the bed in 1 year, costing half the original price of the machine when new...on back order or obsoleted. No junky suspension rods that need replacing on a regular basis. No plastic splutch or crappy underdesigned mode shifter to strip or die. No agitator dogs that need replacing. No snubers to grease or replace. No water pump to die. No lid lock or lid switch to replace. No water valve to replace. Only a couple of seals and a hose to potentially leak water. Simple, easy tear down and repairs.

I'll still take this.

Looks like the drain just dumps in the ground, would explain the grate on the bottom, and no hookup or drain connections. I don't think leaks are really a consideration. Looking at the advance model with cabinet.

I'd love to find a video of the unit in operation, but I could not find one.