We shift gears this week to see what the good folks at Hobart have been working on. Turns out, they've corrected the sins of the model 19 with the new 20-series lineup. And what better place to debut them, than the moon!
Hobart Presents: The KitchenAid Energy Saver V Dishwashers - 16mm Film
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phillymatt53
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Thanks!
Quite an interesting video for sure!
I'm curious though, about your mention of the "sins" of the model 19.
I'd like more information about that from you, please.
I own a Kitchenaid-Hobart Energy Saver IV model KDC-19, a simple machine, which only has a rotary timer, and 2 pushbutton cycles- Normal Wash, and Rinse Hold.
Other than a relatively simple repair to a minor hose leak issue a while back, the machine's always done an impressive job of cleaning my dishes, utensils, and pots.
Thanks again for that video.
The big sin was eliminating the heated dry cycle and claiming it was for energy saving purposes (rather than offer the user a choice). Customer feedback was swift, and that feature was reinstated on the 20's.
Personally, I rarely use the heater on my GE, but I could understand why someone looking to "upgrade" from an earlier model would be a bit peeved; perhaps even switch to the competition.
Personally, I rarely use the heater on my GE, but I could understand why someone looking to "upgrade" from an earlier model would be a bit peeved; perhaps even switch to the competition.
phillymatt53
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Thanks for that info.
Yes, my KDC-19 uses a simple air blower at the end of cycle.
However, it's not an issue with me, because I load things properly, insuring that everything is mounted to drain properly without pooling.
For instance, glasses, cups, pot lids, etc., are all tilted to keep water from pooling up on their surfaces, which would otherwise remain wet upon opening the door.
It's common sense, something lacking these days, and a tidbit of water drops still on something isn't enough to bother me.
The other fact is that after the full cycle and final Sani Rinse, the interior's heated up enough to create that warm air circulation enough to accomplish drying.
Well this is Kitchen Aid asking the world:
Can your dishwasher do this?
How is it that this brand did not corner the market?
There are lots of features, not to mention the best washing, that outshine other makes, in my opinion...
And what year exactly when was this video actually made?
Corey, thank you for sharing!
-- Dave
Can your dishwasher do this?
How is it that this brand did not corner the market?
There are lots of features, not to mention the best washing, that outshine other makes, in my opinion...
And what year exactly when was this video actually made?
Corey, thank you for sharing!
-- Dave
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KDS-20 was the first dishwasher my family got to experience. Moved into a 1970 home in 1985 and installed in the kitchen was a fairly new KDS-20 along with a matching Kitchenaid disposer with the Wham-Jam feature. Both of them were nothing but a pleasure to use!
I recognize most of the production library music in this film but can only name one tune off the top of my head.
I recognize most of the production library music in this film but can only name one tune off the top of my head.
Thanks Cory, another great video!!! lol this is my favorite part of that video 
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Thanks Cory, another great video!!! lol this is my favorite part of that video
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LOL. Can you imagine being in the studio as they were swinging these things around? 1:40 cracks me up with the visible cables.
150 pounds of true American steel and porcelain from Troy, OH. Mass x Acceleration = Force, watch your heads
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Wonder how many of the guys in advertising were fans of Japanese monster movies.Rodan comes to mind..lol. Leaves a supersonic dust bowl as it flies overhead....lol .... Thank you Corey for these. This is great ! 
.... Thank you Corey for these. This is great ! No heat dry was standard on all models in the 19 series. To facilitate better moisture removal, they beefed up the fan and airflow CFM's. It more than satisfies my expectations but there are some who will go into Ted Bundy mode finding a drop of water on a dish.
Final Sani rinse went down from 180F in the 18 to 150F in the 19 and back up to 165F in the 20.
I believe there were cycle changes too but I haven't used a 20 in forever so I can't reference the changes off the top of my head.
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phillymatt53
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I can easily feel the warm air blowing against my legs out of that spot between the bottom of the door and the service panel if I'm wearing shorts, and standing in front of the DW to access the microwave on the counter above it.
As for that "drop of water" you mentioned... and that re-install of heated drying....
That seems like the company actually listened to the consumer back then.
Including any customers with their petty complaints about leftover water on dishes - likely due to not loading them properly.
I've noticed that during that drying period the blower will pause a few times, and that the motor will run once more for draining any settled water.
Imagine that, providing customers with features they want. Today, companies get off on doing the exact opposite so they can laugh in your face about it.....then significantly raise the price on a less featured, cheaper built, shorter lasting POS.
phillymatt53
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Dan, I've mentioned many times over the years to friends, online, etc., about Corporate Greed and corruption, and how it's been an annoying and costly thorn on the consumer's butt.
This extends into virtually every sector of our world, including the healthcare and Big Pharma.
I hope to live long enough to see a radical turnaround in how society and commerce changes - like it used to be, or at least close.
The healthcare and pharma system is one of the biggest jokes in the US but it's purposely designed that way (thank you, Rockefellers/Rothschusilds). Our food is a joke as well, it's banned in at least 33 countries. Take a person from the US who has a serious gluten problems to Italy. All of a sudden, they can stuff their face with bread all day long with zero issues.
None of us will live long enough to see this shit show come tumbling down. It's a big powerful club and we ain't in it.
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