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Non-Bio is available only in UK. Why bother changing the formula for one market only? Plus, I told you that liquids with H2O2 are very unstable - 6 months after manufacturing and you have nothing but additional water in the bottle. Plus I told you that H2O2 is ineffective bleach. Even they add...

"But I don't know what would happen if enzymes and oxygen were present in the same solution." Denaturation and precipitation of the enzymes.

"You could always tell when someone used too much powdered laundry detergent. It was caked up on their washers upper tub ring." Well, with US powders, which have very high zeolite content, and insufficient rinsing, this is absolutely possible. Rinse, rinse, rinse.

No liquids for me, my machine and my clothes. I don't spend my money for 50-85% water. Only use powders for whites, colours and delicates including wool. In fact the liquids are the ones to clog the machine. Because of the high water content and because customers want thick, colourful and smelly...

Powders contain sodium percarbonate - this is stable compound. Liquids usually contain hydrogen peroxide - quite unstable, that's why you have to buy them fresh and not older then 6 months. Powders are much stable when kept dry. Sodium percarbonate releases hydrogen peroxide. H2O2 is not...

P&G don't use cellulase in their powders anymore. As far as I know, they put cellulase only in capsules. In fact they even removed dye transfer inhibitors from their colour powders after the last reformulation.

Yes, that's what I meant, but the word "stupidity" is pretty strong. People are used to something; when you offer something new you have to convince them in it's qualities.

They discontinued them because of the high manufacturing cost and because most of the customers didn't like them: they thought the small dose was not enough and tended to use more than recommended.

I don't like heavy scented powders. The perfect powder for me is the one that leaves no scent after drying. The perfume compositions, used in detergents, are the cheapest possible. I don't want them on my clothes and in contact with my skin. You know that these perfumes are the major allergens...

Today in Europe there are only a few brands that have compact powders: Persil megaperls by Henkel, Ariel compact by P&G and supermarket own brands by Dalli Werke, Thurn and McBride/Chemolux (Formil, Tandil, Bravil, Ja, Denkmit etc.). They are sold in virtually 2-3 countries. All of them have...

"Speaking of... Powders. I have just been to Lidl's and I had a look at the Formil; they have been proper compacted down in size - they're a 25 wash box and would dare say they are not much bigger than Ariel's etc 10 wash box size. I did mention on another thread, I wonder if we would see a...

At the end of 2014. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2013/01/07/procter-gamble-sells-bleach-products.html http://www.nineoclock.ro/pg-sells-detergent-plant-in-timisoara/

And Ace here is a brand of chlorine bleach, previously owned by P&G and now by some Italian company.

GRWasher_expert, I wash my darks with colour powder at 30° and I have no white marks at all. Never. Actually, nowadays powders dissolve pretty well even in cold water.

I told you - liquids are cheaper to produce and the sell them at the same price as the powder. That's why they push. The only thing liquids are better then powders is that they wash oily stains better. (Liquid detergents contain higher amount on nonionic surfactants; powders contain smaller...

"They are still available, but both Ariel and Persil have really scaled back their colour care POWDER products" Thank Heavens, not the same case here. On the opposite, Unilever launched their colour powder this year after many years of only "universal" OMO on the market. All manufacturers offer...

Also, the European Tide formula is sold under the brand name Vizir in Poland and Alo in Turkey.

Every brand has a colour version. Multinational companies sell: TOL brands - Ariel, Persil (in Greece the brand is Dixan), OMO; middle - Tide; bottom (budget) - Bonux, Rex (in Greece it's Neomat with the fox mascot). We have may other brands, sold by smaller companies (Bingo, Tema, Savex) or...

No, in fact colour detergents are sold in most countries in Europe and only few don't have them - Greece, Spain, Portugal, France. Colour powders don't contain oxygen bleach and some of them contain dye transfer inhibitors (since this year - only Henkel produce colour detergents with dye...

GRWasher_expert, UK Persil and Greek Skip are absolutely the same powder in different package. I used them both - they smell the same, look the same, ingredients are the same. Skip powder is manufactured in Unilever's plant in Timișoara, Romania. Liquids are manufactured in UK or Italy, capsules...