12 Minute Wash - Hype or Reality..!!!

[chestermikeuk]

One of the papers not read by many here me thinks has a feature today about a new range of washing machines badged by traditional UK firm Russell Hobbs and sold by the the world conglomerate who shall not be named!!! they are quoting a "12 minute Wash Times" start to finish, the washer has a maximum 7kg wash capacity and a 1200rpm spin!! so everyone is hyped up thinking some revolutionary new "Two Jet" squirty wash system is going to suddenly get a max 7kg load clean in the time that it takes me to post this article...Not the way to convince Joe Public how to get "Whitest Whites"

The 12min wash programme is for "Once Worn" or clothing that needs only "Refreshing" and will not wash the machines full capacity... We certainly have a long way to go dont we!!! The article does have a lovely nostalgia pic of Aunty Mary using the Hoover Keymatic...The irony is that the new machine will wash rinse and spin double the capacity of the Keymatic using far less energy, detergent and water - BUT at the expense of TIME..!!!

The 12-minute washday: Latest washing machines promise to handle seven loads in the time it usually takes to complete one

For the eco-conscious, the faster machines claim to save 212,415 gallons of water over a lifetime – enough to fill almost 17 swimming pools.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[northernmary]

On This Morning....TV

I did hear them talking about this on the TV show This morning and the presenter who ever she is thought it was a fantastic idea about saving time, and about how much less time she would spend doing laundry! I would think she would be a one load woman who bungs everything in on a 30 degrees with some liquid detergent or gel, and wonders why her whites aren’t as pristine as her‘s next door… I just couldn’t help thinking that her machine would smell foul and have mould growing and probably a low end machine at that…… Rant over *I’m not a brand snob really!!!* Cough Miele * when will people start to learn I ask you !

NorthernMary

 

[chestermikeuk]

My Preference ....

for a little bit more on price would be the Gorenje models which have a 17min "Quick Wash" when required, and uses around 50ltrs of water with a 6kg load, 1200rpm spin, is very durable with a 2yr Guarantee, also boasting the new "SterilTub" tub cleaning cycle - who needs mold issues!!!

http://www.thewashingmachineplace.co.uk/productCategory.aspx?product.id=137&t.tag=Gorenje%20WA60125%20Washing%20Machine%20Gorenje

 

[hoovermatic]

No thank you! I agree that cycle times can be too long but as I don't stand around waiting for the laundry to finish it will make little or no difference to me. My machine has a refresh cycle which is about 25mins. That'll do me!

 

[chestermikeuk]

Cough - Miele...!!!

Morning James, Hows yours doing now, glad you stayed with Miele - Immer Besser I say..!!

I can imagine the car parks in a certain Supa will be full of trollys and overcrowded cars with a washer hanging out the back!! Then bringing them back when the two jets give up the ghost, although I cant imagine that many of the original article readers would be seen gracing that supa!!

Bring Back The Keymatic I Say...LOl

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[northernmary]

More patience…. less speed

I’m good thanks mike and yourself? Yeah decided to stay with the Miele in the end what’s a few more loads to do rather than cramming them in a poor built machine which isn’t going to wash as good or be a patch on the Miele, she is still going strong so I’m going to keep her, rather attached to her in a sentimental way. I’ve got the washer and dryer going as I speak…. Immer Besser to be honest I very rarely use the quick wash or the short button on the Miele I’d rather have a clean load that did take longer to wash than a load that has to be rewashed because it was rushed in the first place. My machine takes longer as it’s programmed (by the Miele engineer) to do three High Level Rinses as standard. I only do laundry when am in the house I don’t like the idea of going out and leaving the machines running just something I’ve always been taught
NorthernMary

 

[pierreandreply4]

14 to 8 minute washe is better for me as i don't like letting an appliance work when i have to some errands to run and and this for me is my kind of washer as i can control the wash time and if i have to go out of the house i can stop the washer by pushing the timer knob even if the washer is full of clothe and water and restart it when i return

 

[iheartmaytag]

My Maypool has a Quick Wash that is 25-30 minutes.  It is for small loads, 4-5 items that "needs refreshed"

Basically the cycle wets the clothes with detergent and washes about 8 minutes high speed tumble

Spin

Rinse4 minutes

Spin

Rinse 4 minutes

Spin at high speed.

 

If you have any stains at all, don't use this cycle.  If you just need to freshen up or basically rinse out something. It's ok.  I've only used it once.

 

 

Qucik dry on the dryer is 25 minutes timed at high temp.

 

My vote--HYPE.

It's like saying I'm the fastest at making love, but why?

 

 

[macboy91si]

New Old Technology

GE Mini-Quick Cycle, it's in the 20 minute ball park or less. It certainly won't "wash" much, but it is convenient at times I suppose.

 

-Tim

 

[hassney]

Could Possibly Be Hype

<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">This one is a grey area depends on what you would use it for? If its for freshen up only option then I don’t see no harm. But to wash a whole 7kg load in just “12 minuets” is a bit unrealistic. Maybe because I am more old school. I like clothes to be properly washed and maintained regardless how long the wash cycle may take. </span>

<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Am trying to figure out how would it be possible to wash rinse and spin in just 12 minuets oh and getting in the fabric conditioner. </span>

<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">3 minute’s = wash </span>
<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">3 minute’s = rinse </span>
<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">3 minute’s = fabric conditioner </span>
<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">3 minute’s = spin! </span>

<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">So if lets say 3 min’s was just a wash cycle, there could be no way in getting the heating element to heat up 30c in just 3 min’s… </span>

<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">So am guessing this “could” possibly be hype? Interesting debate.

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<span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Hass.</span>

 

[hotpoint95622]

hotpoint 95622

Length of wash time has been one of the unknowns with my project machine, looking at the program charts for the Hotpoint Microtronic X2000 the quick wash has a 3min 20sec start wash followed by the heating stage which is 30C followed by a further wash of 2min 52sec before pump and distribute, only 2 rinses one with fabric conditioner, so it all depends on the incoming water temperature.

I’ve based my programs on a 1min 48sec start wash followed by heating to what ever temperature is required followed by a main wash of 15min 40sec, only trials will prove if this is sufficient time.

 

[macboy91si]

Purpose of Quick Cycle?

I actually have yet to see a use for these cycles. It's in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">theory</span> nice if you have a couple of things, say an outfit that needs laundering now. The <span style="text-decoration: underline;">reality</span> is even with a 12 minute cycle, you would then need to dry the outfit somehow and that's adding another say 20-40 minutes depending on the dryer. So when it's all said and done, it's actually quite energy <span style="text-decoration: underline;">inefficient</span> to do this  as you've wasted the water and gas/electricity of the dryer. I suppose you could hang it to dry for energy savings, but that negates the entire purpose of the cycle to begin with. Even with a dryer, you'd have ~1hr before a load is done and you'd have to be there with the machines as the laundry will be ready to transfer in 15 minutes or so. You'd need to be desperate to have those Khaki's and polo for the dinner party.

 

-Tim

 

[hassney]

<span lang="EN-GB">
<p><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Some times things should be left alone lol - don't you think guys? </span><span style="font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">I agree with you Tim it would still be time consuming regardless if they did a 12min wash cycle. Some of the things inventers come up with can be really appalling, good idea maybe just can’t see it working, unless used to refresh your clothes as Mike said earlier in his post. Why not use febreze instead if in an emergency, its gonna get washed again why wash it twice lol. </span>

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<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS;">Hass.</span>

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[pierreandreply4]

i would say its a realaty as short or long cycles it don't change anything in cleaning power and clothe still gets cleans and what you don't know is maybe 1 day you will see washing machine with no hot water temp as they are thinking of making washers that would only offer 2 temp option warm wash and cold wash water temp

 

[petek]

My GE Filter Flo has the world-renowned mini-basket and mini-quick wash cycle. You know I've never timed it but I would guess it takes about 12-15 minutes tops if that. I do use it occasionally for my stinky gym clothes. It'll hold a couple of t-tops and my gym pants. Admittedly the spin doesn't remove a lot of water but doesn't matter much since I put the stuff out on the line or in the dryer during the winter.

 

[robliverpool]

My rebadged LG 9Kg steam washer has a 20 minute cycle on it and its never only 20 minutes as the machine wont spin if its unbalanced and spends ages re distributing the load. Have never actually washed anything on the 20 min quick wash only used as extra rinses as it doesnt heat up the water and i dont care what the adverts say, cold water aint no good for proper cleaning. As for a 12 min quick wash whats it gonna be next i wonder

 

[liberator1509]

Mike...do you really believe what the put in the Mail?

<span style="font-size: medium; font-family: times new roman,times;">I'd have put you down as a reader of a better class of rag!  Nice marketing opportunity for the Russell Hobbs rebadgers nonetheless (what a sad thought considering the iconic origin of that brand), but when the 'modern' front loader takes about 25 minutes to do a separate spin cycle, a 12 minute wash cycle seems a load of old tosh.  I love the caveat at the end too - only for lightly soiled items - anything that actually needs washing will take a short calendar month or so...</span>

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<span style="font-size: medium; font-family: times new roman,times;">Bet they sell by the truck load of course, but hey - cheap is what the majority of punters want!  More landfill...</span>

 

[chestermikeuk]

"do you really believe what the put in the Mail?!"

David , read the first lines, and no I dont and (am really assuming you have tonge in cheek typing it) had you visited you`d have the the Indies all over the place..Lol...You missed the point completely as I know my opinion!!!...Its the masses who will See / Buy / Believe the hype!!!

Just look at all the responses all over the web, more than 80% are voting in favour of these machines because of extra long (read normal) washtimes - so who has the job of stopping landfill - easy answer we do, but we get nowhere getting hysterical by it. I think it time for a grounswell of concerted opinion backed by a sound documentation & feedback!!!

Theres only so much you can do individually!!! AND yes What a Sad Demise of a Best of British Brand!!!

 

[samsungfl]

Very Interesting!

Nice to see a mix of views on quickwashes guys I personally think 12 minutes is a bit too short however I must admit the Express cycle on my Miele is one that is regularly used.

Whilst I believe, and do practice that longer cycles clean alot better, when your in a rush a short cycle is a great addition to have, for lightly soiled laundry at least. The Express cycle is only 30 minutes as many of you may now, and states it should be no more than half full (3kg), I do go against this though when I'm in a rush and have very often done full loads on this cycle, what suprises me is that stains and whatever else do come out on this cycle, obviously not ground in ones but just general soiling This coupled with being able to take advtantage of the full 1600rpm spin at the end works well for me at least, and seems pretty efficent esspecially if I'm tumble drying as I'm not just drying a few items that need refershing as mentioned earlier in the thread

Regards to the 12 Minute wash however, I do really wonder how effective it would be, and also if theres any need for the hype over this "new" super quick washing idea, because to be honest one could easily set their washer to a seperate rinse cycle, which in most cases is two anyway and have the same job done ( more or less) without being swayed into buying a washer over gimmicks because they claim it can was X amount in a certain time.

Very interesting thread however, keep posting

Rich