1952 Philco Fridge... weights?

[moparguy]

I was so excited to finally get my 1952 Philco 12 Duplex refrigerator... only to find that it had been damaged by the movers in transit... a large dent in the freezer door. So after wrangling back and forth, they appear ready to pay something out for repair, but they will base it on weight, which absent any documentation to the contrary, they estimate at 100 pounds (not likely!!!). Does anyone have a manual or brochure or other documentation that shows the weight of this very cool fridge? I want to fix the unfortunate dent and get it back in shape! Thanks Jeff

 

[moparguy]

The unfortunate damage...

Luckily it is a clean dent, but will require removing the inner door panel (and gasket).

But quite the cool fridge, I have seen a couple in the smaller '10' model, but those extra 2 cubic feet make quite a difference between a 10 and a 12!

 

[goatfarmer]

I'm going to guess between 5-600 lbs. Nice 'fridge, even with the dent!

 

[norgeway]

Probably..

375 or so.

 

[moparguy]

Thanks

Thanks... that's about what I estimated... but they will only base any claim on 100 pounds unless I can find a reference document. It doesn't need to be 1952 specific; I have seen the same fridge, with updated handles and shelves, in 1954.

 

[58limited]

Will they accept a weight if you simply weigh it (if not, I would use the phrase "My lawyer" in the conversation)? Most of the fridges I have from this era are between 200-300 pounds. My '48 Servel is quite a bit more due to the cast iron absorption unit.

 

[pdub]

That is so sad. The first picture shows it in perfect shape and then to have this happen to it after all these years. Hopefully it can be fixed so you'll never know it happened. They will probably have to repaint the entire cabinet to get a match so it really will look as good as new.

My guess on the weight was going to be around the 400 lb mark.

Good luck in getting this resolved quickly.

Patrick

 

[arbilab]

Who were these "movers"? They either let it fall into something or let something fall into it, both of which should have been secured. They estimate the weight of a fridge at 100#? They are utterly incompetent. A skinny 20yo girl weighs 100#.

Repair based on weight? I never heard of that either. They need to take the door off and have it body-shopped.

That fridge weighs no less than 200#. THEY'RE the movers, they should have industrial scales. They should have weighed it to figure the shipping charge.

Hope it works out. But again, WHO WERE THEY? So nobody else uses them.

 

[stan]

The moving Co

sounds like they are a bunch of ******* What dose the weight have to with their neglect, or the cost of a body shop to repair that!
Beautiful fridge by the way!

 

[launderess]

Weight

Many shipping companies have a limit of 100lbs that is covered without taking out extra insurance. UPS is one such company, but there probably are others.

 

[moparguy]

shipping limits

Thanks for all the comments. When I posted the shipment through uship, I showed the weight as 250 pounds; when I booked with this company, they did not question or change that. But now with the damage, they proposed to limit coverage to the default based on 100 pounds unless I can document a different weight (such as having a service manual, brochure, spec sheet, etc). Kind of frustrating, they never questioned the 250 pounds when they booked... But that is why I am looking for some source that would show weights.

And yes, I will have it repaired and post the 'after' pics... it is a very cool fridge, and was hard to find in this large size.

 

[58limited]

Sounds like they are trying to give you the run around, sometimes companies do this to see if you are willing to pursue the issue.  I would start getting tough with them. Is the shipper bonded and insured? If so it shouldn't be  a problem to get them to fix it. Did you get a print out of the shipping request and their response showing the weight you listed? If so, tell them you have a copy and that 100 lbs is not acceptable. I would also get a quote from an auto body shop to repair it and give the shipper the quote - tell them you expect them to pay it in full. You can even mention that if this is not fixed to your satisfaction that you will go small claims court or retain a lawyer.

 

[lotsosudz]

Excuse me for saying!

But this seems like "Same Old Ship Different Day. If they are a reputable shipper,
There should be no question of liability! Can I get a "Amen". It is sad that nowday's nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions. What's next, will it be our fault for shipping something, and wanting it to come to us in one piece!

 

[rickr]

Too bad this had to happen, but so glad the handles were not damaged. A good body shop will be able to repair that dent for you, and I would have the entire fridge repainted as well.