cycla-fabric
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Here's another one up on ebay for sale. Located in Mass. Should be saved.
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1966-67 Kenmore Washer on Ebay
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A 1966 Kenmore 600. Just what I didn't need! But want.......
What 'ya think James??
Gordon
A 1966 Kenmore 600. Just what I didn't need! But want.......
What 'ya think James??
Gordon
chaskelljr2
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1966-67 Kenmore Model 60 or 600 Washer....
@ Gordon:
I don't believe what I just saw on that e-bay ad.
That's my Grandmother old washer. The water level and temperature dials gave it away. I remember using it when I first moved into my apartment. When you filled the machine to start the cycle, if you used hot or warm water and you wanted a cold rinse, you had to reset the temperature dial after the machine started agitating.
Loved the chrome lint filter as well. And the machine had great turnover as well. I used to stay down in the basement and watch it agitate all the time when it was washing and rinsing.
This machine had an Off Balance Switch-Buzzer (or at least ours did).
Very good mid priced machine back in the 1960's. You probably could've gotten one of these babies for about $150.00 back then, couldn't you????
Sears probably sold a boat load of these back then, I quite sure.
I remember this machine VERY fondly.
--Charles--
@ Gordon:
I don't believe what I just saw on that e-bay ad.
That's my Grandmother old washer. The water level and temperature dials gave it away. I remember using it when I first moved into my apartment. When you filled the machine to start the cycle, if you used hot or warm water and you wanted a cold rinse, you had to reset the temperature dial after the machine started agitating.
Loved the chrome lint filter as well. And the machine had great turnover as well. I used to stay down in the basement and watch it agitate all the time when it was washing and rinsing.
This machine had an Off Balance Switch-Buzzer (or at least ours did).
Very good mid priced machine back in the 1960's. You probably could've gotten one of these babies for about $150.00 back then, couldn't you????
Sears probably sold a boat load of these back then, I quite sure.
I remember this machine VERY fondly.
--Charles--
chaskelljr2
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Addend....
BTW
When that machine died in 1990, that was the machine that was replaced by a 1990 Kenmore Model 80 Direct-Drive with a Dual Action Agitator.
Now, the washer that we have now is a Kenmore Elite Oasis with a Total Care Agitator.
--Charles--
BTW
When that machine died in 1990, that was the machine that was replaced by a 1990 Kenmore Model 80 Direct-Drive with a Dual Action Agitator.
Now, the washer that we have now is a Kenmore Elite Oasis with a Total Care Agitator.
--Charles--
Charles -
I am not sure what the price would have been. I was recently astonished to see a receipt for a 1961 Kenmore 70 like mine. It was in an owner's manual that I got to go along with my machine. The price was $199.95 I believe, and there was some sort of accessorial charge - maybe a MA (maintenance agreement). This was 1961! These machines cost a LOT more money relatively speaking to a household budget than a top-loader does today.
One thing I found very interesting regarding this model - There was a 1966 machine which was followed by a very similar, not not identical '67. The '66 had five temp combinations like a 70-series, and a Roto-Swirl agitator.
The '66 would be slightly easier to use with the 5 temps, but other than that, these machines were pretty darn easy to use, had what most anyone would need, and were less complicated and less expensive than the TOL machines.
Gordon
I am not sure what the price would have been. I was recently astonished to see a receipt for a 1961 Kenmore 70 like mine. It was in an owner's manual that I got to go along with my machine. The price was $199.95 I believe, and there was some sort of accessorial charge - maybe a MA (maintenance agreement). This was 1961! These machines cost a LOT more money relatively speaking to a household budget than a top-loader does today.
One thing I found very interesting regarding this model - There was a 1966 machine which was followed by a very similar, not not identical '67. The '66 had five temp combinations like a 70-series, and a Roto-Swirl agitator.
The '66 would be slightly easier to use with the 5 temps, but other than that, these machines were pretty darn easy to use, had what most anyone would need, and were less complicated and less expensive than the TOL machines.
Gordon
chaskelljr2
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@ Gordon....
Then for a Model 60 or 600, $150.00 sounds about right,
Remember, the Model 70 like the 1961 model you're talking about was a higher-end model than the 1966-67 Model 60 or 600 I'm talking about. That is if your 1961 Model 70 was $199.00 back then.
My quote (and I might be wrong..... if I am, it won't be the first time..... certainly won't be the last) then reflect on the 1966-67 Model 60 or 600 being a lower-end machine and the state of what the economy was at that time.
For certain, for the record, our 1967 24" BOL machine was $120.00 around the same time. So I was just taking a guess or so.
--Charles--
Then for a Model 60 or 600, $150.00 sounds about right,
Remember, the Model 70 like the 1961 model you're talking about was a higher-end model than the 1966-67 Model 60 or 600 I'm talking about. That is if your 1961 Model 70 was $199.00 back then.
My quote (and I might be wrong..... if I am, it won't be the first time..... certainly won't be the last) then reflect on the 1966-67 Model 60 or 600 being a lower-end machine and the state of what the economy was at that time.
For certain, for the record, our 1967 24" BOL machine was $120.00 around the same time. So I was just taking a guess or so.
--Charles--
A couple other things for you Charles...
The temperature selections on your grandmother's machine were quite common on Kenmores for years. They were seen often on 400, 500, and 600 models. If a machine didn't have the five combinations, they seemed to have the set-up you had. I don't think that changed until the early 70s when the H/W, W/C, and C/C came out.
As to selling lots of a certain model: I know that Kenmore, like most companies that sell stuff in volume, have "bread and butter" machines - models that they sold lots of, and at a decent margin. These are the machines that paid the bills basically. There were other machines in the line that were price leaders but not big sellers because of lack of features, but there were other machines as well that were high on the food chain and sold for gobbs of money, but didn't sell in volume.
For an example, looking back at the final line of belt-drive Kenmores, the 1983 models sold into 1986. The line began with a 60 series, and ended with a Lady K. One of the 1984 catalogs mentions that one of the four 70-series machines was their best selling washer. My exposure to these machines over the last 20-some years would support that, as I've come across 7 of that very model in the last couple months. Somewhere I read that of the four 70-series units, two were low-volume and the other two carried the store, and that for every one Lady sold, 10 (yes, ten) of the two favored 70-series machines were sold.
There's the bread and butter!
Gordon
The temperature selections on your grandmother's machine were quite common on Kenmores for years. They were seen often on 400, 500, and 600 models. If a machine didn't have the five combinations, they seemed to have the set-up you had. I don't think that changed until the early 70s when the H/W, W/C, and C/C came out.
As to selling lots of a certain model: I know that Kenmore, like most companies that sell stuff in volume, have "bread and butter" machines - models that they sold lots of, and at a decent margin. These are the machines that paid the bills basically. There were other machines in the line that were price leaders but not big sellers because of lack of features, but there were other machines as well that were high on the food chain and sold for gobbs of money, but didn't sell in volume.
For an example, looking back at the final line of belt-drive Kenmores, the 1983 models sold into 1986. The line began with a 60 series, and ended with a Lady K. One of the 1984 catalogs mentions that one of the four 70-series machines was their best selling washer. My exposure to these machines over the last 20-some years would support that, as I've come across 7 of that very model in the last couple months. Somewhere I read that of the four 70-series units, two were low-volume and the other two carried the store, and that for every one Lady sold, 10 (yes, ten) of the two favored 70-series machines were sold.
There's the bread and butter!
Gordon
chaskelljr2
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To Gordon.....
Thanks for your insight and knowledge....
To James.....
There is a 1966-67 Model 60/600 in the link above that Gordon is trying to turn you on to. What do you think about her??? Isn't she a beauty or what???
--Charles--
Thanks for your insight and knowledge....
To James.....
There is a 1966-67 Model 60/600 in the link above that Gordon is trying to turn you on to. What do you think about her??? Isn't she a beauty or what???
--Charles--
$169.50
Grandma bought a Kenmore 70 series in 1966 for $169.50. It had infinite water levels, 5 temperature selections, 3 cycles, lighted dial, black Super Roto Swirl and a bleach dispenser. It was working without a repair when she died in 1982 and was given to a family friend who used it for another 20 years.
Grandma bought a Kenmore 70 series in 1966 for $169.50. It had infinite water levels, 5 temperature selections, 3 cycles, lighted dial, black Super Roto Swirl and a bleach dispenser. It was working without a repair when she died in 1982 and was given to a family friend who used it for another 20 years.
70series
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Gordon:
Oh you want this.........you want this baaaaaaad!
That is a 1967 Model 600 the same one my neighbor had. I have told this story before, but here is a perfect chance to tell it again.
When I was 7 and 8 years old, I went over to her house to do laundry on several occasions. We would set the date in advance, which always made it a special event. I remember how she carefully turned the dial and pressed it in to start the fill. It was that washer where I first took full notice of the Kenmore drip/spray fill while wondering how it could possibly fill a washer full. She would hand me the cup of Sears Roebuck detergent and help me pour it in all around the base of the agitator "like so", as she often said. It would begin to agitate before my neighbor (who was in her 70s) was finished loading clothes so I got to see it wash, albeit for a little while, and the lint filter do its job. Ironically I did not stand in front of the washer throughout the whole wash and rinse periods. She invited me to sit with her in the finished area of her basement and talk, all the while closely listening to the washer woo woo-ing away. When it would shift into neutral drain we would jump up to watch the washer empty into the slop sink. Somehow this was the main attraction of the day, and we would stay there through the spin cycles. My neighbor would point to the dial and show me how close it was to advancing to the next phase in the cycle. When the washer was finished, we would load the clothes into the dryer. She would set the time, I would push the button, and this would signify the conclusion of the wash doing. It was this point she would look at me with a smile and ask "Are you satisfied?" Naturally I would respond with a resounding "Yes!"
I always will cherish the days I went across the street to do the wash with Mrs. Brunner.
Wow to see this again is amazing, and I hope it finds a home with you Gordon. You're re-accumulating a nice collection and this would make an ideal addition. It is your classic basic 3/3/3 Kenmore washer as far as water levels, cycles, and water temperture choices go. It would fit in perfectly.
Have a good one,
James
Oh you want this.........you want this baaaaaaad!
That is a 1967 Model 600 the same one my neighbor had. I have told this story before, but here is a perfect chance to tell it again.
When I was 7 and 8 years old, I went over to her house to do laundry on several occasions. We would set the date in advance, which always made it a special event. I remember how she carefully turned the dial and pressed it in to start the fill. It was that washer where I first took full notice of the Kenmore drip/spray fill while wondering how it could possibly fill a washer full. She would hand me the cup of Sears Roebuck detergent and help me pour it in all around the base of the agitator "like so", as she often said. It would begin to agitate before my neighbor (who was in her 70s) was finished loading clothes so I got to see it wash, albeit for a little while, and the lint filter do its job. Ironically I did not stand in front of the washer throughout the whole wash and rinse periods. She invited me to sit with her in the finished area of her basement and talk, all the while closely listening to the washer woo woo-ing away. When it would shift into neutral drain we would jump up to watch the washer empty into the slop sink. Somehow this was the main attraction of the day, and we would stay there through the spin cycles. My neighbor would point to the dial and show me how close it was to advancing to the next phase in the cycle. When the washer was finished, we would load the clothes into the dryer. She would set the time, I would push the button, and this would signify the conclusion of the wash doing. It was this point she would look at me with a smile and ask "Are you satisfied?" Naturally I would respond with a resounding "Yes!"
I always will cherish the days I went across the street to do the wash with Mrs. Brunner.
Wow to see this again is amazing, and I hope it finds a home with you Gordon. You're re-accumulating a nice collection and this would make an ideal addition. It is your classic basic 3/3/3 Kenmore washer as far as water levels, cycles, and water temperture choices go. It would fit in perfectly.
Have a good one,
James
70series
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Charles thanks for the tip:
Once I saw the black straight vaned agitator, the same one Mrs Brunner had, I knew this for sure was the clone to her washer.
Have a good one,
James
Once I saw the black straight vaned agitator, the same one Mrs Brunner had, I knew this for sure was the clone to her washer.
Have a good one,
James
lotsosudz
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My Mother had the identical washer. I think they paid $249.99.
It needed a repair the first time we used it as it agitated twice on the "Normal" cycle rinse, and then drained. My mother did'nt like the agitator either, "as it did'nt move the clothes like my old machine" so we swapped out the old roto-swirl from the old machine, and kept it. At 7 years old, it developed a burnt spot on the motor and would ocassionally have to be turned by the belt, until it started. Shortly after that I moved back home with my 60's Norge with the burp-a-lator, and the Kenmore got rightfully dumped. I shed no tears at the time, because one of the times I used it, and had to "crank start it" as it were, it almost ran my fingers through the pulley. So again, I shen no tears. LOL
It needed a repair the first time we used it as it agitated twice on the "Normal" cycle rinse, and then drained. My mother did'nt like the agitator either, "as it did'nt move the clothes like my old machine" so we swapped out the old roto-swirl from the old machine, and kept it. At 7 years old, it developed a burnt spot on the motor and would ocassionally have to be turned by the belt, until it started. Shortly after that I moved back home with my 60's Norge with the burp-a-lator, and the Kenmore got rightfully dumped. I shed no tears at the time, because one of the times I used it, and had to "crank start it" as it were, it almost ran my fingers through the pulley. So again, I shen no tears. LOL
chaskelljr2
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@ lotsosudz.....
Wait a minute...... $249.99??? For a Kenmore Model 60 (or Model 600)???? Back in the mid/late 1960's????
That machine was on the lower-end of the food chain. That's a lot of money for a machine that low in the lineup at that time.
You sure that your mom didn't have a LK then??? Because for $250.00 back in them days, that would've bought you a Lady Kenmore.
For a Model 60/600 from the same era..... $150.00 was probably more like it.
--Charles--
Wait a minute...... $249.99??? For a Kenmore Model 60 (or Model 600)???? Back in the mid/late 1960's????
That machine was on the lower-end of the food chain. That's a lot of money for a machine that low in the lineup at that time.
You sure that your mom didn't have a LK then??? Because for $250.00 back in them days, that would've bought you a Lady Kenmore.
For a Model 60/600 from the same era..... $150.00 was probably more like it.
--Charles--
randycmaynard
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Looks like a 600 Model
Looks like an updated version of the 63-64 Kenmore 600 that I brought home in late February. Initially my mother did not have a dryer when the 600 was bought in 63 but later in 67 when my sister was born a dryer was bought and it is the dryer that would match up with this washer.
Looks nice though - same interior and agitator as the 600 I have that is 4 years older.
Looks like an updated version of the 63-64 Kenmore 600 that I brought home in late February. Initially my mother did not have a dryer when the 600 was bought in 63 but later in 67 when my sister was born a dryer was bought and it is the dryer that would match up with this washer.
Looks nice though - same interior and agitator as the 600 I have that is 4 years older.
Charles -
Back in the 60's there wasn't a great big gradient in price between one model and the next - maybe $5 or $10 each step-up, etc. The reason for that is that 10-bucks bought a lot more than it does today. There is more markup in a TOL machine by far than a BOL, but if yours started at $120, then a Lady probably wasn't more than $250 or $275 or so, with all the bells and whistles.
As to the receipt I have for the '61 - remember that there was 6 or 7 years of rising prices in between 1961 and 1967, and there isn't a great deal of cost difference (I mean manufacturing cost) between a 70 series and a 600. A three level pressure switch and an infinite one cost the same to make, so the differences between the two would lead to a simlar base cost but a larger profit margin for Sears on the higher priced unit. Also, it is important to note that while many of us bought machines on sale for $60, $70, even $100 off, some other people may not if the model they wanted wasn't on sale, etc. I have a 1967 catalog, I should just check, but those prices are relative because they don't include freight, and are not sale prices either. My '86 is in the catalog for $449, but I purchased it for $358 delivered.
Randy -
The Kenmores were fairly consistent in everything but the TOL models throughout most of the 60s. Styling changed year to year almost, but the specs and features generally didn't. So this machine other than the water temps, is essentially identical mechanically to yours. I wish they had the more colorful consoles of the early 60s, but I guess that gives the 61, 62, and 63 models their charm today.
Gordon
Back in the 60's there wasn't a great big gradient in price between one model and the next - maybe $5 or $10 each step-up, etc. The reason for that is that 10-bucks bought a lot more than it does today. There is more markup in a TOL machine by far than a BOL, but if yours started at $120, then a Lady probably wasn't more than $250 or $275 or so, with all the bells and whistles.
As to the receipt I have for the '61 - remember that there was 6 or 7 years of rising prices in between 1961 and 1967, and there isn't a great deal of cost difference (I mean manufacturing cost) between a 70 series and a 600. A three level pressure switch and an infinite one cost the same to make, so the differences between the two would lead to a simlar base cost but a larger profit margin for Sears on the higher priced unit. Also, it is important to note that while many of us bought machines on sale for $60, $70, even $100 off, some other people may not if the model they wanted wasn't on sale, etc. I have a 1967 catalog, I should just check, but those prices are relative because they don't include freight, and are not sale prices either. My '86 is in the catalog for $449, but I purchased it for $358 delivered.
Randy -
The Kenmores were fairly consistent in everything but the TOL models throughout most of the 60s. Styling changed year to year almost, but the specs and features generally didn't. So this machine other than the water temps, is essentially identical mechanically to yours. I wish they had the more colorful consoles of the early 60s, but I guess that gives the 61, 62, and 63 models their charm today.
Gordon
chaskelljr2
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@ Randy....
Gosh!!!! Look at that 1963 Kenmore Model 600. She cleaned up pretty nicely, didn't she.
She sure looks gorgeous now, doesn't she???
And she's still churning away two months later, right???
--Charles--
Gosh!!!! Look at that 1963 Kenmore Model 600. She cleaned up pretty nicely, didn't she.
She sure looks gorgeous now, doesn't she???
And she's still churning away two months later, right???
--Charles--
randycmaynard
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Yes Charles.......
She is still churning away! I made a set of vids this past Monday of a complete cycle on the Kenmore and my White-Westy
Space Mates FL washer. I've got some editing to do on them as they're to long for YouTube - will post there as soon as I get them edited for time.
She is still churning away! I made a set of vids this past Monday of a complete cycle on the Kenmore and my White-Westy
Space Mates FL washer. I've got some editing to do on them as they're to long for YouTube - will post there as soon as I get them edited for time.
70series
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I just had to post the ad pics into the thread so they could be preserved. It is the first time doing this, so I hope I did this right. What a beauty.
70series
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Money shot. Priceless
