supermaticjames
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And last but not least - that drum once again. It's really warming on me and I'm sure once it's done a few inaugural loads it will have won me over!
James
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1970s Philips 707 AWB126 Front Loader
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supermaticjames
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Hi Kevin,
It's had a water test earlier on today and as expected everything was 100%. It uses quite a bit of water but then again what 1970s front loader doesn't!
It does indeed have H&C fill and the small knob on the right is for variable spin speed - uncommon in those days!
The two brown rectangular buttons are for releasing the door and the dispenser respectively.
James
It's had a water test earlier on today and as expected everything was 100%. It uses quite a bit of water but then again what 1970s front loader doesn't!
It does indeed have H&C fill and the small knob on the right is for variable spin speed - uncommon in those days!
The two brown rectangular buttons are for releasing the door and the dispenser respectively.
James
Again, very nice! Thank you for the explanations!
Is the door release mechanical or electric? Interesting that the dispenser drawer has a release button (fun). The variable speed spin is interesting too. Is it infinitely variable or fixed speeds?
Sorry for all the questions, but I don't know and gotta ask!
Thanks!
Kevin
stricklybojack
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Great find!
Great find!
supermaticjames
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My motto is if you don't ask you don't know! 
The door release is mechanical and interlinked with the timer so that it is only able to operate when the dial is at an off position. A lot of 1980s Hoover front loaders had dispenser release buttons but they were prone to failing. The spin speed is infinitely variable from approximately 120 rpm to 800 rpm. The numbers are only there as a guide.
James
The door release is mechanical and interlinked with the timer so that it is only able to operate when the dial is at an off position. A lot of 1980s Hoover front loaders had dispenser release buttons but they were prone to failing. The spin speed is infinitely variable from approximately 120 rpm to 800 rpm. The numbers are only there as a guide.
James
chanceskydiver
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Hi James it is lovely. Got a Electra from Dunfermline in the tale end summer last year. I had got it as well as a Miele. It is much better than the Electra AWF 683 have from 1984. I'm pleased that he is going to look out for you and give you a good opportunity of getting more.
Wow James, that's a wonderful find! I love those Philips machines from the seventies. The machines with the blue accents are nicer in my books than the later ones with the soft orange/gold accents.
These machines got hot and cold fill especially for the UK I think, overhere all washing machines were cold fill. Philips must have had enough of a market share in the UK I guess to make models with a hot water connection.
I love the sound of the Permanent Magnet motors. Not very silent when washing!! And I notice they draw a lot of power when the motor is in wash mode. I assume the 707 turns the heating off for the short tumbles between heating? At least my Philips toploader did. Or doesn't it tumble at all during heating?
This machine spins probably at 750 or 800rpm at max. lowest is indeed 120 (meant for lace curtains! lol). On later models Philips put the spinspeed on the ratings plate sticker. Funny that they didn't do that on this machine, other brands like Miele and Bosch did that way earlier already. But those machines are boring compared to this one!
Are you able to do a video?
Thanks for sharing these wonderful pictures of my favourite brand ever!
These machines got hot and cold fill especially for the UK I think, overhere all washing machines were cold fill. Philips must have had enough of a market share in the UK I guess to make models with a hot water connection.
I love the sound of the Permanent Magnet motors. Not very silent when washing!! And I notice they draw a lot of power when the motor is in wash mode. I assume the 707 turns the heating off for the short tumbles between heating? At least my Philips toploader did. Or doesn't it tumble at all during heating?
This machine spins probably at 750 or 800rpm at max. lowest is indeed 120 (meant for lace curtains! lol). On later models Philips put the spinspeed on the ratings plate sticker. Funny that they didn't do that on this machine, other brands like Miele and Bosch did that way earlier already. But those machines are boring compared to this one!
Are you able to do a video?
Thanks for sharing these wonderful pictures of my favourite brand ever!
matchboxpaul
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Hi James.
People who have met me will confirm that when something makes me happy, that I grin from ear to ear.
Suffice to say that since opening up this thread, I haven't been able to wipe the grin from my face
As I mentioned in an e-mail a couple of days ago, I am overjoyed that finally a nice example of Philips, blue style front loader has been saved and has found a safe retirement home with you
....
People who have met me will confirm that when something makes me happy, that I grin from ear to ear.
Suffice to say that since opening up this thread, I haven't been able to wipe the grin from my face
As I mentioned in an e-mail a couple of days ago, I am overjoyed that finally a nice example of Philips, blue style front loader has been saved and has found a safe retirement home with you
....
matchboxpaul
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....
Always had a fondness for these early Philips machines, though I only can remember a fleeting contact with a blue example.
PREPARE FOR WAFFLY SLIGHT DIGRESSION ....
That experience was at the latest spring 1982, before my family moved house and was in what I assume was an old neighbours house. I did mean to ask my mum about it last visit home, but forgot, so your new arrival will certainly ensure I remember to ask next time.
You walked into their kitchen and in front of you was a removable breakfast bar, which slid away to reveal a Philips AAJ001 tumble dryer (blue of course and piccy below).
Opposite this and unobscured was what I always remembered as a Philips '808', with a shiny silver fascia, accented with blue detailing and festooned with dials, buttons and lights.
Since then it was always '808' and that was before I knew about 202, 303, 404, 606 or 707 and since 2007, I have learnt that there definitely was a machine known as '808' and it was top of the range, with variable temp, variable spin, economy and half load buttons and was probably the mystery model machine AWB127.
Does anyone else remember a blue version '808' and does anyone have a photo of one, as this is probably the last mystery machine of my childhood?
Having gone right round the houses and over the hills, back to the point that I was coming too.
My enduring memory of the '808' was down to that fascia colour scheme and I totally agree with Louis that the blue looks fantastic!
Gives an air of being slightly sinister and 'cool' and certainly something not to be messed with, which was even more emphatic on my fabled '808', which is why I remember it to this day.
The blue hues Philips used created some superb looking machines and, though immensely fond of the bronze range that followed, the warmth of that colour lost some of the impact that the blue had. Personal taste though
Paul
p.s AAJ001 below - have tried twice to secure one of these and failed both times .... will try harder in future.
Always had a fondness for these early Philips machines, though I only can remember a fleeting contact with a blue example.
PREPARE FOR WAFFLY SLIGHT DIGRESSION ....
That experience was at the latest spring 1982, before my family moved house and was in what I assume was an old neighbours house. I did mean to ask my mum about it last visit home, but forgot, so your new arrival will certainly ensure I remember to ask next time.
You walked into their kitchen and in front of you was a removable breakfast bar, which slid away to reveal a Philips AAJ001 tumble dryer (blue of course and piccy below).
Opposite this and unobscured was what I always remembered as a Philips '808', with a shiny silver fascia, accented with blue detailing and festooned with dials, buttons and lights.
Since then it was always '808' and that was before I knew about 202, 303, 404, 606 or 707 and since 2007, I have learnt that there definitely was a machine known as '808' and it was top of the range, with variable temp, variable spin, economy and half load buttons and was probably the mystery model machine AWB127.
Does anyone else remember a blue version '808' and does anyone have a photo of one, as this is probably the last mystery machine of my childhood?
Having gone right round the houses and over the hills, back to the point that I was coming too.
My enduring memory of the '808' was down to that fascia colour scheme and I totally agree with Louis that the blue looks fantastic!
Gives an air of being slightly sinister and 'cool' and certainly something not to be messed with, which was even more emphatic on my fabled '808', which is why I remember it to this day.
The blue hues Philips used created some superb looking machines and, though immensely fond of the bronze range that followed, the warmth of that colour lost some of the impact that the blue had. Personal taste though
Paul
p.s AAJ001 below - have tried twice to secure one of these and failed both times .... will try harder in future.
matchboxpaul
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Hi again James.
Thanks for the photos of the machine and its internals.
Certainly far braver and expert than me at taking things apart, I hope that the Servicing Manual has proved an interesting read for you.
Paul
p.s can I use a picture of your 707 in a future thread that I have in mind to do?
Thanks for the photos of the machine and its internals.
Certainly far braver and expert than me at taking things apart, I hope that the Servicing Manual has proved an interesting read for you.
Paul
p.s can I use a picture of your 707 in a future thread that I have in mind to do?
matchboxpaul
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p.s nearly forgot .... does your machine have a sticker on the door hinge like this? ....
alanlondon
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Philip's brochure
Hello everyone, I love Philip's stuff from the 70s and here's the full brochure of the time incorporating the 707.
Hello everyone, I love Philip's stuff from the 70s and here's the full brochure of the time incorporating the 707.
Thank you Alan, that's a wonderful brochure, heart attack material!!
Philips
Hi James, glad you got it all sorted, what a find, it looks in great shape, looking forward to seeing the blue dial "Spin Drain"...
Alan, many thanks for a great brochure as usual, Philips had a superb range of laundry appliances and we see that the 707 had one of the first PM , Permag
or Permanent Magnet Motors ha ha..
Louis, indeed, will test you in the morning on the Philips washer porn.
Kevin, many of our washers had the same simplistic user instructions, they conformed to the 7 HLCC (Home Laundry Consultative Council) programmes, all machine washable clothing had an identified number, ie programme 2 was a cotton intensive wash, low water level, 60d temp, 4 rinses and a fast spin. If it wasnt numbered it was like the Philips Alpha coded hence programme C....all the user needed to do was collect the same numbers and select the identified programm, simples!!
Hi James, glad you got it all sorted, what a find, it looks in great shape, looking forward to seeing the blue dial "Spin Drain"...
Alan, many thanks for a great brochure as usual, Philips had a superb range of laundry appliances and we see that the 707 had one of the first PM , Permag
or Permanent Magnet Motors ha ha..
Louis, indeed, will test you in the morning on the Philips washer porn.
Kevin, many of our washers had the same simplistic user instructions, they conformed to the 7 HLCC (Home Laundry Consultative Council) programmes, all machine washable clothing had an identified number, ie programme 2 was a cotton intensive wash, low water level, 60d temp, 4 rinses and a fast spin. If it wasnt numbered it was like the Philips Alpha coded hence programme C....all the user needed to do was collect the same numbers and select the identified programm, simples!!
supermaticjames
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@Louis - Hi Louis, thanks for the lovely comment!
Yes, I'm really growing fond of the sound the PM motor emits. For its size it's certainly up to the job and I did notice on the ratings sticker that it has a moderate power draw during tumbling. The timer switches the heater off during the short tumbles otherwise the power draw of the machine would exceed the rating of the socket (3100 watts).
I will do a video soon, at the moment there is no storage left on my phone but I should be in a position to upgrade at the end of this month. Then I will do some videos of this and my Hoover Keymatic.
@paul - You have a fantastically vivid memory! The blue accents really do give the machine sort of an air of self-importance dare I say? Considering it has a lot of chrome and brushed aluminium I am surprised needless to say that it's survived amazingly well.
I hope I stumble across that matching dryer but I'm guessing they are a rarity? Also, there is no sticker on the door hinge and it appears that there never was (no sticky residue).
I wouldn't consider myself to be an expert as far as taking things apart is concerned but thank you! In fact this machine didn't really need to be taken apart since it was so clean to begin with but Philips made everything so easily accessible that I couldn't refuse giving it a once over haha. The service manual certainly came in handy when taking apart and putting back together as quite a few parts of it are relevant and it has been good bedtime reading for me so thank you!
You are more than welcome to use my pictures in your upcoming thread!
@Alan - Thank you so much for posting that lovely brochure! I love how manufacturers actually put some effort into their brochures back then. Now I don't think they even put out brochures.
Kind regards,
James
Yes, I'm really growing fond of the sound the PM motor emits. For its size it's certainly up to the job and I did notice on the ratings sticker that it has a moderate power draw during tumbling. The timer switches the heater off during the short tumbles otherwise the power draw of the machine would exceed the rating of the socket (3100 watts).
I will do a video soon, at the moment there is no storage left on my phone but I should be in a position to upgrade at the end of this month. Then I will do some videos of this and my Hoover Keymatic.
@paul - You have a fantastically vivid memory! The blue accents really do give the machine sort of an air of self-importance dare I say? Considering it has a lot of chrome and brushed aluminium I am surprised needless to say that it's survived amazingly well.
I hope I stumble across that matching dryer but I'm guessing they are a rarity? Also, there is no sticker on the door hinge and it appears that there never was (no sticky residue).
I wouldn't consider myself to be an expert as far as taking things apart is concerned but thank you! In fact this machine didn't really need to be taken apart since it was so clean to begin with but Philips made everything so easily accessible that I couldn't refuse giving it a once over haha. The service manual certainly came in handy when taking apart and putting back together as quite a few parts of it are relevant and it has been good bedtime reading for me so thank you!
You are more than welcome to use my pictures in your upcoming thread!
@Alan - Thank you so much for posting that lovely brochure! I love how manufacturers actually put some effort into their brochures back then. Now I don't think they even put out brochures.
Kind regards,
James
supermaticjames
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Hi Mike,
Thanks, I'm really glad I took the plunge and went for it. It's good to try something new!
I see your machine has the very same blanked off compartment in the dispenser, was this meant to be a bleach compartment for countries that bleached as part of their laundry regime?
James
Thanks, I'm really glad I took the plunge and went for it. It's good to try something new!
I see your machine has the very same blanked off compartment in the dispenser, was this meant to be a bleach compartment for countries that bleached as part of their laundry regime?
James
Philips VarioSpin
Hi James, yes I believe so, rather ahead of its time I think, they really are great machines, I love the simplistic detail and even the plastic moulded concrete filled weights rather add an up market dimension to them instead of blocks of ballast concrete dont we think...
Does it explain the 4th compartment in the Service Literature?
Hi James, yes I believe so, rather ahead of its time I think, they really are great machines, I love the simplistic detail and even the plastic moulded concrete filled weights rather add an up market dimension to them instead of blocks of ballast concrete dont we think...
Does it explain the 4th compartment in the Service Literature?
supermaticjames
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Hi Mike,
I was quite surprised to see that type of weight when I removed the lid, next best thing to a cast iron weight I reckon.
The parts list in the service manual says the blanking insert is a "bleach compartment cover".
James
I was quite surprised to see that type of weight when I removed the lid, next best thing to a cast iron weight I reckon.
The parts list in the service manual says the blanking insert is a "bleach compartment cover".
James
matchboxpaul
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Hi James.
Perhaps the door hinge label was a later thing with Philips.
Assuming that there are no other identifying labels anywhere on the machine, then I would say that the numbers '529' on the ratings sticker are the machines production date.
Using the 1980s Philips dating code, then I would say that your machine was built in the 29th week of 1975, which would make it a very early 707, as they were flogging the 202 in the period 1974-75.
If accurate then, for her age, your new old machine is mint!
Paul
Perhaps the door hinge label was a later thing with Philips.
Assuming that there are no other identifying labels anywhere on the machine, then I would say that the numbers '529' on the ratings sticker are the machines production date.
Using the 1980s Philips dating code, then I would say that your machine was built in the 29th week of 1975, which would make it a very early 707, as they were flogging the 202 in the period 1974-75.
If accurate then, for her age, your new old machine is mint!
Paul
matchboxpaul
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Hi Alan.
Thanks for posting another of your wonderful brochures.
Was a delight to metaphorically leaf through and exudes a pride in the product that is seldom seen today.
Will keep an eye out for a Match 'n' Stack dryer!
Paul
Thanks for posting another of your wonderful brochures.
Was a delight to metaphorically leaf through and exudes a pride in the product that is seldom seen today.
Will keep an eye out for a Match 'n' Stack dryer!
Paul
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