1986 very late model Lady Kenmore belt-drive washer
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Very cool Gordon - love the speckled wash basket.
The drilled holes are odd but I think you are spot on. Probably for some home-brew clothes line in the basement.
Ben
The drilled holes are odd but I think you are spot on. Probably for some home-brew clothes line in the basement.
Ben
Andy - No worries my friend. The major issue was the pump. That is anything but a big deal. I have never seen one spray water like that though in pump out, so it was kinda cool...the pump was definitely not happy. But, if it is the original pump, it owes us nothing. I have a dozen or more new four port pumps so no issues there. I am not certain about the leaky tub, but I will find out more when I work on the machine more closely.
Today I did get the leveling legs improved. I took out the link, both legs, and the plastic clips. One side of the link had some bends in it, which interferes A LOT with the leveling ability of the whole system. I corrected that, and the system now works fine. I have a feeling that the hauler man-handled her, as one of the front legs is coming apart, which they do when they absorb too many compressions.
I think the best thing to do with this machine is to take her all apart, re-do the seals, install a new pump, and probably a detergent valve solenoid, and I shouldn't have to worry about it for some time to come.
THANKS a lot for a very cool washer Andy!
G
Today I did get the leveling legs improved. I took out the link, both legs, and the plastic clips. One side of the link had some bends in it, which interferes A LOT with the leveling ability of the whole system. I corrected that, and the system now works fine. I have a feeling that the hauler man-handled her, as one of the front legs is coming apart, which they do when they absorb too many compressions.
I think the best thing to do with this machine is to take her all apart, re-do the seals, install a new pump, and probably a detergent valve solenoid, and I shouldn't have to worry about it for some time to come.
THANKS a lot for a very cool washer Andy!
G
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Gordon, congrats on briging home the 86 Lady in all of her decontented glory. You cleaned her appearance up nicely, and I am optimistic that her internal issues will not be difficult to address. This model is a rare one we do not see, as I think 1986 was probably one of the only years where there was a decontented Lady. Naturally I will defer to you on that. Good luck with her.
Have a good one,
James
Have a good one,
James
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Gordon it is great to see other models that come in real quick and leave.
And it is great that you and Drew have a good friendship.
Is it possable for a shot of the options on the left please .
Any washer goes into soak n wash is a delight lol.
Nice washer G.
Darren k
And it is great that you and Drew have a good friendship.
Is it possable for a shot of the options on the left please .
Any washer goes into soak n wash is a delight lol.
Nice washer G.
Darren k
Darren -
Here's a shot from a similar machine that I can get you right now without a new photo. This is from a 1985, fully contented washer with the white basket and the porcelain top. Both use the same console. If you can't read it the options from left to right are: Soak only, soak 'n wash, wash only, wash and 2nd rinse, and finally, soak, wash and second rinse. In that final option, the timer can progress from the beginning of the Pre-soak all the way through the end of the second rinse in cotton/sturdy, uninterrupted.
The Cycle Modifier switch on the left debuted on 1979 90-series models, and it replaced two previous switches used on 1976 thru 1978 machines. It was used to my knowledge on only five models, a 1979 90 series, a 1980 80 series (this differed from the '79 in not having the '79's solenoid operated bleach dispenser), a 1981 80-series, a 1983 80-series, and the 1983/1985 Lady K.
The only model made in huge numbers was the 1983/1985 Lady K. I've never come across the 1979 90 series. I have a 1980 80-series, and have the makings for another (it is there in cabinet and body, but has had a cheaper console transplanted on. Andy has found and sent me the proper console, so that machine may be whole again soon). I have also never seen a 1981 80-series, though VolvoGuy87 has one. This machine is on my dream list. It differs from the 79/80 in having infinte water levels instead of five. All three of these machines lacked the triple dispenser. The 1983 80-series I've never seen either, nor have I ever seen any evidence of one except in the model listings from WP, AND the pictures used in the 1980s Kenmore belt-drive repair manual are of one. This and the '81 are cool because the panel looks like the Lady's presented here, but have the woodgrain on top instead of the textured black.
I never really thought about it, but wow, only five models with that switch, and all were large capacity.
Here's a shot from a similar machine that I can get you right now without a new photo. This is from a 1985, fully contented washer with the white basket and the porcelain top. Both use the same console. If you can't read it the options from left to right are: Soak only, soak 'n wash, wash only, wash and 2nd rinse, and finally, soak, wash and second rinse. In that final option, the timer can progress from the beginning of the Pre-soak all the way through the end of the second rinse in cotton/sturdy, uninterrupted.
The Cycle Modifier switch on the left debuted on 1979 90-series models, and it replaced two previous switches used on 1976 thru 1978 machines. It was used to my knowledge on only five models, a 1979 90 series, a 1980 80 series (this differed from the '79 in not having the '79's solenoid operated bleach dispenser), a 1981 80-series, a 1983 80-series, and the 1983/1985 Lady K.
The only model made in huge numbers was the 1983/1985 Lady K. I've never come across the 1979 90 series. I have a 1980 80-series, and have the makings for another (it is there in cabinet and body, but has had a cheaper console transplanted on. Andy has found and sent me the proper console, so that machine may be whole again soon). I have also never seen a 1981 80-series, though VolvoGuy87 has one. This machine is on my dream list. It differs from the 79/80 in having infinte water levels instead of five. All three of these machines lacked the triple dispenser. The 1983 80-series I've never seen either, nor have I ever seen any evidence of one except in the model listings from WP, AND the pictures used in the 1980s Kenmore belt-drive repair manual are of one. This and the '81 are cool because the panel looks like the Lady's presented here, but have the woodgrain on top instead of the textured black.
I never really thought about it, but wow, only five models with that switch, and all were large capacity.
Here is what the panel looks like in the 1979/1980 version, using the original font style.
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Beautiful washer.
These would be some of my favs as well.
Here's some scans of the models you may have not seen.
In 1983 you could still get some appliance in Harvest Gold, Coffee, and Avacodo... and a machine with a sudsaver. lol.
These would be some of my favs as well.
Here's some scans of the models you may have not seen.
In 1983 you could still get some appliance in Harvest Gold, Coffee, and Avacodo... and a machine with a sudsaver. lol.
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81 Spring Summer
Lady Kenmore
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81 ss
runners up with woodgrain console
runners up with woodgrain console
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1980 Fall Winter
check out the computer on the TOL, at that time. A short lived model.
check out the computer on the TOL, at that time. A short lived model.
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1983 Fall Winter
Still with the wood grain top. I like the 1983 line up best. I think it is the script they used.
Still with the wood grain top. I like the 1983 line up best. I think it is the script they used.
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Erik -
THANKS for the ultra-cool catalog scans.
The models in the Spring/Summer 1981 catalog are actually 1980 models. In my reply #25 above, my washer is actually 1980 stock number 20821 which you can see in your reply and picture, #28. The 1980 models all hung around until summer 1981, when the redesigned fonts came out for 1981 (AND when Whirlpool at the same time redesigned the baseplate of all 29-inch belt-drive machines and made them slightly more energy efficient overall). The Fall/Winter 1981 catalog debuted this new console styling for Kenmore.
In your 1983 Fall/Winter scan, reply # 31, Sears was still selling some of the 1981 models along with some revised 1982 units, this one being the 21831, which may be one of the most interesting to me of all the 1980s belt drives. It was still available in Fall 1983, so it was available for more than 2 years. Sears wanted a King's ransom for the machine, and sales were lousy in general at this time due to the 1981-1983 recession, so we see very few of this model.
(Interestingly, the brown panel machine in the little photo inset is a 2-speed, 1982 three cycle machine. Not really all that different than the 21831, but close to half the price at $299!! These sold better for obvious reasons, and their only draw back vs. more expensive machines was a total lack of a lint filter).
The 1983 line didn't show up in catalogs until Spring/Summer 1984, and the 80-series using this awesome console was never in a catalog that I've ever seen.
Thank you again for the neat photos.
Gordon[this post was last edited: 3/26/2012-17:26]
THANKS for the ultra-cool catalog scans.
The models in the Spring/Summer 1981 catalog are actually 1980 models. In my reply #25 above, my washer is actually 1980 stock number 20821 which you can see in your reply and picture, #28. The 1980 models all hung around until summer 1981, when the redesigned fonts came out for 1981 (AND when Whirlpool at the same time redesigned the baseplate of all 29-inch belt-drive machines and made them slightly more energy efficient overall). The Fall/Winter 1981 catalog debuted this new console styling for Kenmore.
In your 1983 Fall/Winter scan, reply # 31, Sears was still selling some of the 1981 models along with some revised 1982 units, this one being the 21831, which may be one of the most interesting to me of all the 1980s belt drives. It was still available in Fall 1983, so it was available for more than 2 years. Sears wanted a King's ransom for the machine, and sales were lousy in general at this time due to the 1981-1983 recession, so we see very few of this model.
(Interestingly, the brown panel machine in the little photo inset is a 2-speed, 1982 three cycle machine. Not really all that different than the 21831, but close to half the price at $299!! These sold better for obvious reasons, and their only draw back vs. more expensive machines was a total lack of a lint filter).
The 1983 line didn't show up in catalogs until Spring/Summer 1984, and the 80-series using this awesome console was never in a catalog that I've ever seen.
Thank you again for the neat photos.
Gordon[this post was last edited: 3/26/2012-17:26]
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"only draw back vs. more expensive machines was a total lack of a lint filter"
Do you mean an operating lint filter?
When did they start with the, round "comb" style lint filter at the base of the wash tubs?
Do you mean an operating lint filter?
When did they start with the, round "comb" style lint filter at the base of the wash tubs?
Erik -
The basket mounted lint filter debuted in 1982, I am not certain exactly when that year, but I think about mid-year. Carryover 1981 models, all of which started with the tub mounted self-cleaning filter, were changed to have the basket mount filter if they were still in production by summer 1982. This represented a fairly sizeable substitution of parts, including the outer tub, the basket, the pump, filter assemblies and internal plumbing. The 1981 80-series mentioned above is one of the models to see the changes.
The machine I mentioned as not having a filter had no filter at all, not recirulating, not basket mounted, nothing.
Gordon
The basket mounted lint filter debuted in 1982, I am not certain exactly when that year, but I think about mid-year. Carryover 1981 models, all of which started with the tub mounted self-cleaning filter, were changed to have the basket mount filter if they were still in production by summer 1982. This represented a fairly sizeable substitution of parts, including the outer tub, the basket, the pump, filter assemblies and internal plumbing. The 1981 80-series mentioned above is one of the models to see the changes.
The machine I mentioned as not having a filter had no filter at all, not recirulating, not basket mounted, nothing.
Gordon
When did they start with the, round "comb" style lin
If I'm correct, it was when the DAA was introduced. I know it was used on the plastic control panel with the Penta-Vane installed so that makes it in the 1975-1976 but looking through the Sears catalogs 1980, this machine was suppose to have a manual filter but there one none from my memory when my parents had the washer.
If I'm correct, it was when the DAA was introduced. I know it was used on the plastic control panel with the Penta-Vane installed so that makes it in the 1975-1976 but looking through the Sears catalogs 1980, this machine was suppose to have a manual filter but there one none from my memory when my parents had the washer.
Cleanteam -
The round, disk shaped self cleaning comb filters which were mounted to the underside of the wash baskets are a 1980s design.
The machine in your picture is either a 1979 Kenmore 500 series standard capacity machine (I have one in my collection which can be seen in my photo album) or a 1980 Kenmore 500 large capacity machine with the Penta-Vane agitator. You are correct, both have the manual filter. I like this machine very much and use it often. There was one 1980 model, a 400 series, which did not have a filter, but it also didn't have an adjustable water level, and temperatures were set on the timer dial. It otherwise looked identical to these models. These are somewhat unusual in that the standard and large capacity variants look absolutely identical. Few Kenmore models were ever this similar side by side.
Gordon
The round, disk shaped self cleaning comb filters which were mounted to the underside of the wash baskets are a 1980s design.
The machine in your picture is either a 1979 Kenmore 500 series standard capacity machine (I have one in my collection which can be seen in my photo album) or a 1980 Kenmore 500 large capacity machine with the Penta-Vane agitator. You are correct, both have the manual filter. I like this machine very much and use it often. There was one 1980 model, a 400 series, which did not have a filter, but it also didn't have an adjustable water level, and temperatures were set on the timer dial. It otherwise looked identical to these models. These are somewhat unusual in that the standard and large capacity variants look absolutely identical. Few Kenmore models were ever this similar side by side.
Gordon
Belt Drive washers with Self-Cleaning Filters
I am pretty sure that my black 1985 Kenmore Limited Edition BD washer still has the better plumbed in tub mounted Self-Cleaning filter, and it is not a Suds-Saver machine.
I am pretty sure that my black 1985 Kenmore Limited Edition BD washer still has the better plumbed in tub mounted Self-Cleaning filter, and it is not a Suds-Saver machine.
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