2013 Ford 150 Eco-boost ??

[volsboy1]

My Dad just bought another truck it's a new well it has 900 miles on it  a 2013 Ford F-150 Limited with that Eco-boost

twin turbo engine in it.I have no clue why he bought this truck cause now we have four trucks.What is it with men and trucks?

It's beautiful and loaded with every option and is VERY FAST  but I have been reading some things online and was wondering

if anybody in here has one?I can't believe how much these things cost when new, I about fell over when I saw the sticker price

but he got a huge discount. I had no idea they cost that much that is Mercedes area.

I have read some thing about water condensing and that huge inter-cooler and can get in the engine and make it misfire and

it normally happens at the worst time when your passing or towing something.I hate trucks like our Toyota Tundra this Ford has so

much power it started smoking the tires at when I was passing somebody while going 30 MPH.Does anybody in here have one of these trucks with that twin turbo engine???

 

 

[wayupnorth]

My neighbor has one thats 4WD like my Silverado. Neither one of us have alot of miles yet but I consistantly show better gas mileage with the 5.3 V8 that switches to 4 cyl. and his F-150 is a six. Mine will throw you back in the seat when you punch it. I swear it has more power than my Corvette.

 

[volsboy1]

This truck has 365 Hp and 430 ft pounds of torque and I do believe that for sure it will melt the tires . Dad thinks the gas

mileage will be better than a V8 but, I don't think so.We do have a huge camper that weighs about 10,000 pounds and that

Ford can tow up to 11,800 pounds.I think he is being fooled with that Eco-Boost name and him thinking that sense it's

a V6 instead of a V8 that it will get better MPG than the Toyota Tundra that us sitting next to it.The Tundra is just two wheel drive

but this F-150 is four wheel drive so it weighs more.

He told me that the Tundra can't tow the camper/mobile home which is true the Tundra I think can tow about 8000 pounds

and it has that V8.When he tows anything those turbos are going to be in full boost all the time and will drink gas like crazy.

I think he should have got the F250 with the Turbo Diesel.I have been reading some things that can make it kind of dangerous 

he has a warranty but reading stories of people trying to pass on a two-lane road then the engine just shakes and coughs well

there is law suits being brought up about that truck with those Turbo Engines..

I think trucks are a phallic symbol to some men,my Dad has never not had trucks.The Tundra just sits there and is never drove

he drives his Honda Pilot everywhere now this truck will sit there most likely..

 

[wayupnorth]

Ford burned me on a brand new car and never went back. I always had a Cavalier, Century or Malibu to do the 40,000 miles every year I had to go thru this state for my job in additon to a Chevy 4WD truck. Before retiring, bought this new one and never called a tow truck on any of them. Remember where I am in Maine. it is still snow covered and you still have to have a 4WD now that its finally starting turning to MUD, spring season. My neighbor has gone to Florida to escape this cold so I dont know how its doing. My new Silverado has been to the dealer for a state inspection, thats it. His has had several problems. And my great uncle owned the local Ford dealership and my family drove Fords or walked.

 

[mopar65]

I work at the ford proving grounds and there was a LOT of problems with the twin turbo motors. Most of them was pistons melting. But what ever you do NEVER cover the vents on the fenders! If you do your truck will start on fire.

 

[rp2813]

. . . trucks are a phallic symbol to some men . . .

Yes, a phallic symbol to young men who are so insecure about their masculinity -- regardless of how big their package may be -- that they use an overly butched up/jacked up gas guzzler to reassure themselves.  No brain trust in this particular demographic.  None of them realize that instead of masking their insecurity, they're advertising it. 

 

There are a few exceptions to this rule.  I have seen them out there, but again, there are very few of them.

 

[epixstar128]

Trucks are tools pure and simple i have a f250 i use just for work. After work i drive a mini van there is no way im paying for that extra gas.
The new ford trucks seem nice but i would never get any new engine line for a new car
Of any make or model. Let them work the kinks out first

 

[strongenough78]

Like the old saying goes......There's no replacement, for displacement.

 

[epixstar128]

Well tell that to the epa. You are going to see alot more Turbo cars on the road due to all the standards they want.

 

[warmsecondrinse]

Phallic symbols

Yeah, I think trucks are phallic symbols, especially when they're clearly not used for any kind of work actually requiring a truck. IMO, same applies to Hummers, Corvettes, and most other cars that emphasize flash over actual performance.

I was one of the people who plunked $99 on a Smart Car when they first became available. I cancelled it after a test drive. The interior was first rate, roomy with incredible seats, BUT: The tranny was nowhere near ready for production and Mercedes chose an engine that required premium gas. Bec of the transmission, the engine was constantly straining... loudly. The marketing people got it all wrong and didn't seem to understand that most of the prospective buyers were interested in using it as a commuter car and that means highway cruising must be comfortable. this all made it a no-go for me.

I always had a fantasy of bringing some guy home with my Smart Car. As we're walking to the car I casually mention the whole big-truck-as-compensation thing. we get to my car and I say, "Here's mine."

Hey, I said it was a fantasy!

Back on topic: Everything I've heard or read says that small engine says that small engines, no matter how boosted, guzzle gas when carrying a full load. I bet the Eco-Boost will be faster AND use less fuel than the F250 Turbo Diesel when carrying just the driver, but will be much slower and thirstier when towing that trailer.

Jim

 

[volsboy1]

I love cars with turbo chargers in it.I have had about 6 of them <span class="st">Celica GT-Four All-Trac Turbo</span> and my favorite was a 1991 Mazda Mx6 GT.

The turbo in the Mazda was like a jack-hammer when it kicked in.Most folks hate that turbo lag but, I loved it and that 2.2 12 Valve engine was so much

fun to drive.They under-rated that car saying it had 145 H.P. but that was impossible it was closer to 190H.P. but I had mine tweaked to about 220H.P... That was another car that tires would spin way to easy.

My Dad bought me a 1992 Ford Escort G.T.  it was a beautiful and fun to drive.Ford used the Mazda 323 Turbo engine (1.8L DOHC) in that car

the only thing they left off was the turbo.It had piston oil-cooler jets and everything was on it for the turbo and that is what I did.

I bolted that thing on there for the most part that engine was bullet proof, forged crankshaft,even the oil pan was was forged.

The engine stock was 127H.P.  when I got done with it I had 175H.P. at the wheels.I loved that car but, I had a seizure on 1-75 in 98  and hit a pole doing 120+ would be dead if I was not wearing my seat-belt and conscious when I hit the pole.

I had a 1990 Plymouth Voyager which had a 2.5 Turbo in it and that was the smoothest four cylinder I have ever recall driving

but I used it pulling our Sea-doos/ATV's to Florida and everywhere.Took it to the mountains loaded with friends and everything.

It had plenty of power but, I remember that I would see that Turbo glow red at night if I stopped for gas.

I had to replace that turbo twice until I bought a turbo timer for it.

That is one reason I wonder about my that Eco-Boost towing all the time.My Voyager was always in boost when towing and

I think max towing was 1000 pounds if that I think they advised not to tow anything...

My Acura Rdx is a turbo also but I have not done any tweaking to it.That engine is very complicated the only thing I have done  

to it was re-flash the computer which increased power by 20 H.P. . I would tinker more with that engine but Honda is

so different than any other car manufacturer and I don't want to blow the motor up..

 

 

[firedome]

Turbos are amazing...

and no one does Turbo better than SAAB, the first really successful turbo automobile in mass production was the '78 SAAB 99 Turbo (GMs '60s Olds Jetfire and Corvair Corsa were less than wonderful, had lots of problems, and late '70s Buick V-6 Turbos were far less sophisticated). The SAAB Trionic Turbo engine management is the best in the world, bar none.

Over 42 years with SAABS, we've had SAAB 900 Turbos (1 still in family), a SAAB 9000 Turbo, 3 9-3 Turbos (all still in family) and a 9-5 Aero (sold last summer). SAAB Turbo engines routinely will exceed 300k miles with no significant problems... Ford should do so well! It's all in the engineering details.

BTW SAAB is NOT dead, they will be back with a full electric car next year, and they are already selling revised and updated versions of the last 9-3 (Turbo) in Sweden, as we speak.

 

[hydralique]

Saab thoughts . . .

The real beauty of Saab’s turbo was that it successfully took an adequate engine and made it work just like a larger engine of mild tune, as opposed to the approach taken by BMW with the 2002 Turbo in ‘73-‘74 and Porsche with the 930 in ‘75. Unlike all of GM’s early turbo cars the 2002 and 930 had fuel injection, but both are famous for all-or-nothing boost that makes them difficult to drive; cool but not something the average driver would find useful or enjoyable. Saab saw the future in using the power of electronics to tame the turbo and make it almost transparent, as if someone had suddenly slipped a six cylinder engine under the hood. For a very small company that barely had 10 years of experience with four-stroke engines and had never designed one from scratch it was an amazing accomplishment.

I enjoyed my 900T, especially with the later 16 valve turbo engine. It also handled better than one would suspect given the simplicity of the suspension, fairly high center of gravity and short wheelbase. Too bad they couldn’t tame the torque steer but I learned to live with that. Unfortunately they are not easy cars to deal with when the get old as they are very problematic on the dyno part of the emissions test. That and being lightly rear-ended finally did mine in at about 165,000 miles. The engine and turbo were original, it used no oil and ran flawlessly. When the Golf TDI that replaced the Saab had over $9,000 of warranty repairs due to a turbo that grenaded and ate the engine I remember thinking that VW should sub out all their turbo work to Saab!

 

[cfz2882]

Renault turbo,early 1980s

the turbo system in the Renault "Fuego"~1982-84 was pretty sophisticated for the time also-even more advanced than Saab in some ways;Fuego even had air/air intercooler with a fan that would switch on under boost to pull air through the intercooler.Electronic timing control with knock sensor and ignition trigger on flywheel-IIRC,engine still had cap/rotor just to direct the spark on the little OHV "hemi"I kinda recall Renault was pretty heavily into turbo race engines during the early '80s

 

[volsboy1]

Renault is the one of what two or so that still have engines in Formula One..They are very advanced when it comes to engine tech.They made great turbo engines in the 80s  before Formula One banned Turbos in 89.I have only driven one Renault and well that car felt more like a Yugo it was a little bitty thing and slow.. Saab though I have had two and loved them both. 900 Turbo and 9000 Aero which were both fast but that 95 would scream. I loved the Trionic  computer they had in them they were so easy to tweak just a few adjustments and tons more power. That is what I am looking for now is a 96 or 97 Aero.. The 99 and up were terrible once G.M. ruined them with there engines would turn into a ball of sludge if you are like most folks and use normal oil.The oil pick tube has a screen way to small and clog up and would ruin the turbo and the engine. I have friends with 95 Aeros that are boosted to over 500 H.P. wheel H.P. . That 2.3 L Pre G.M had Forged Rods,and can handle tons of power and boost of 20+ easy in stock form they also have the best seats I have ever used.