DD Maytag? The one in the linked comparison video? It's a VMW belt-drive machine.
2018 Maytag vs. SQ
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DD Maytag? The one in the linked comparison video? It's a VMW belt-drive machine.
I’m not sure it makes a lot of sense to wash a lightweight microfiber cloth in a washer full of blue jeans. If I did and used the Speed Queen, I would have put it in first. The manner in which the SQ washes is different than how a dual agitator does as seen in the video. A bogus demo IMO.
The towels function as indicators for load rollover.
DD, VMW, whatever -- it's all the same to me. That rapid chick-chick short stroke action is annoying.
Whether you're inclined to defend the new SQ or mock it, the number of returned SQ machines due to cleaning failure is what will ultimately tell the tale.
And if anybody from Alliance has ever visited this site, they would have known better than to change their design so radically from one that had been celebrated by every sector of the general public, not just the washer enthusiasts here.
Whether you're inclined to defend the new SQ or mock it, the number of returned SQ machines due to cleaning failure is what will ultimately tell the tale.
And if anybody from Alliance has ever visited this site, they would have known better than to change their design so radically from one that had been celebrated by every sector of the general public, not just the washer enthusiasts here.
With all respect, there is a HUGE difference between a DirectDrive and the VMW belt drives. This Maytag Commercial model is the first to use the short quick strokes for long periods of time rather than switching to the longer wide strokes at the beginning of the wash portion. The shorter stroke agitation is still only *maybe* 90 oscillations per minute. The DirectDrives agitated at 180 opm on their regular/fast agitation speed, which gave them their loud knocky sound and their “Shredmore” nickname. I loved the WTW4800 VMW Whirlpool I had for a few years. The longer wider stroke agitation was gentle but could rollover large loads just fine.
The ONLY DirectDrive I would ever willingly have would be a true KitchenAid Superba 3-speed, with the slightly larger agitator fins but with the agitation speed maxed out at 120 opm.
The ONLY DirectDrive I would ever willingly have would be a true KitchenAid Superba 3-speed, with the slightly larger agitator fins but with the agitation speed maxed out at 120 opm.
speed queen...
I'd take the 2018 Speed Queen anyday because it cleans gentler and better due to the currents of water passing over and through the clothes, and the fact that it's built more solid compared to the Maytag. Just saying!
I'd take the 2018 Speed Queen anyday because it cleans gentler and better due to the currents of water passing over and through the clothes, and the fact that it's built more solid compared to the Maytag. Just saying!
stchuck
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The agitator fins on the Maytag 575 appear to be bigger than some of the direct drive models I have had in the past. I have no proof though because I have nothing to compare them to. As I mentioned previously I don't have enough history to speculate reliability but I feel like this machine can really turn over a load quite effortlessly. My memory may be dim but I feel like its better than the direct drives but its been 15 or more years since I have had one. I also had a speed queen top load washer maybe 10 years ago and I even think it does a better job than that washer. I can feel the cyber eggs being launched at me already for saying that but that's what I love about this site we all bring different experiences and opinions to the table. Its okay to disagree as long as its polite. 
The 2018 SpeedQueen has been rated poorly by Consumer Reports.
Currents of water or no.
It doesn't perform well in a plethora of tests.
The only two places I've seen SQ's new design perform "well" is by claims from SQ themselves, but no evidence. And from Kirk Rivas' reviews where he puts wet muddy jeans in them.
That's not dried on dirt, nor is it a real stain. It's just mud on jeans. Garden hoses could remove that.
Currents of water or no.
It doesn't perform well in a plethora of tests.
The only two places I've seen SQ's new design perform "well" is by claims from SQ themselves, but no evidence. And from Kirk Rivas' reviews where he puts wet muddy jeans in them.
That's not dried on dirt, nor is it a real stain. It's just mud on jeans. Garden hoses could remove that.
Rub some good ol Alabama red clay dirt on those jeans and see how well it fares lol.
vacerator
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Red dirt, sure;
plenty also in Tennessee. Not far from Huntsville. I saw lots of it there. When the glaciers moved through the great lakes region, all they left behind was brown and grey clay. Kentucky and Tennessee have some beautiful scenery. I've not been through Alabama. I have Georgia though. I think the Atlanta area is nice. We're all flat lands here, so hills look nice, even if they are smaller hills.
Just way too humid though. It's 84% here this morning. Even at 70 f. when I went outside, yuck! A/C set at 75 and has already been on once.
At least there are plenty of swimmin' holes Ya'll can take a cool dip in, if ya haven't got a pool.
plenty also in Tennessee. Not far from Huntsville. I saw lots of it there. When the glaciers moved through the great lakes region, all they left behind was brown and grey clay. Kentucky and Tennessee have some beautiful scenery. I've not been through Alabama. I have Georgia though. I think the Atlanta area is nice. We're all flat lands here, so hills look nice, even if they are smaller hills.
Just way too humid though. It's 84% here this morning. Even at 70 f. when I went outside, yuck! A/C set at 75 and has already been on once.
At least there are plenty of swimmin' holes Ya'll can take a cool dip in, if ya haven't got a pool.
my call to speed queen
I spoke to Linda from Speed Queen, and she said that the wash action depends on water passing through every fiber of the clothes in strong currents as opposed to aggressive rollover to prevent damaging to clothes, even the ieavy duty ones. It uses a strong 1 horsepower motor and a heavy duty cast aluminum pulley along with a 7 ribbed belt to drive the water currents in order for it to clean clothes. I will ALWAYS be a fan of Speed Queen no matter the cost. Besides, you don't women's clothes to be destroyed over time, do you? I don't.
I spoke to Linda from Speed Queen, and she said that the wash action depends on water passing through every fiber of the clothes in strong currents as opposed to aggressive rollover to prevent damaging to clothes, even the ieavy duty ones. It uses a strong 1 horsepower motor and a heavy duty cast aluminum pulley along with a 7 ribbed belt to drive the water currents in order for it to clean clothes. I will ALWAYS be a fan of Speed Queen no matter the cost. Besides, you don't women's clothes to be destroyed over time, do you? I don't.
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speedqueen
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Aggressive rollover isn't the actual cleaning action, it is a side effect of very strong water currents at the bottom of the tub, a concept invented by Maytag with their "Gyrator" agitator versus the previous oscillating dolly types. Rollover is however needed to insure that all clothes get their turn at the strong water currents, henceforth the addition of a cork-screw does actually help cleaning action.
In clothe-less demonstrations of the new SQ, there are hardly any water currents to be seen, on the new Maytag, however I could actually see it forcing water currents through every fiber, the SQ, not even close...
To conclude, these are just marketing buzz words used to paper over the glaring flaws in the design.
In clothe-less demonstrations of the new SQ, there are hardly any water currents to be seen, on the new Maytag, however I could actually see it forcing water currents through every fiber, the SQ, not even close...
To conclude, these are just marketing buzz words used to paper over the glaring flaws in the design.
vacerator
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Yes Richard, rollover
gets laundry clean for sure. Some of the "new" design" full up agitator washers don't even have vanes up the sides to help move the clothing into the roll over. It's just the same lower infusor plate as before, with a smooth tube up to a fabric softener dispenser. I guess some low water use front loaders spray water into the clothes to remove stains, etc.
gets laundry clean for sure. Some of the "new" design" full up agitator washers don't even have vanes up the sides to help move the clothing into the roll over. It's just the same lower infusor plate as before, with a smooth tube up to a fabric softener dispenser. I guess some low water use front loaders spray water into the clothes to remove stains, etc.
Can't believe
That Speed Queen made that. I will take the Maytag any day. I really would like to see my greasy work clothes in these. My Frigidaires handle the clothes wonderfully.
-Tyler
That Speed Queen made that. I will take the Maytag any day. I really would like to see my greasy work clothes in these. My Frigidaires handle the clothes wonderfully.
-Tyler
gusherb
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I like how they made it look like it’s actually moving clothes in their latest video...
speedqueen
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Looks like everything is getting tied to the agitator, just brilliant...
To the few lawn mower enthusiasts here, this is eerily similar to what Snapper did with their venerable rear engine riding mower in 2012, I wanted to like the new design but then heard all the bad reviews about chassis parts like the steering breaking, something virtually impossible with the older design. I used to consider Snapper the last good quality riding mower, after Briggs and Stratton bought them out, they are a far cry from "the company that said no to Walmart".
To the few lawn mower enthusiasts here, this is eerily similar to what Snapper did with their venerable rear engine riding mower in 2012, I wanted to like the new design but then heard all the bad reviews about chassis parts like the steering breaking, something virtually impossible with the older design. I used to consider Snapper the last good quality riding mower, after Briggs and Stratton bought them out, they are a far cry from "the company that said no to Walmart".
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