50's Frigidaire fridge attempted restoration... Florida Man strikes again!

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This is one I got last year; but just found time to check it out. Can't believe people actually do this type of work! YouTube link shows the inspection and check-out of the unit.

Back-story which some of you know already is; I collect the rarer models of antique fridges; but also buy nonworking examples of more common models, and repair them to re-sell. I like to keep them as original as possible. Most of the time, they require only rewiring and new gaskets; or maybe a leak fix and new drier. However; every now and then you find a doozy.

 

This came from central Florida; which is well known for "Florida Man" crime stories. This one really fits the bill.

 

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Hi Robert. Hope to get more done on it soon, but it's a "time filler" project in between more pressing matters. Will definitely follow up when that time comes!

The biggest concern is the missing evaporator door. If I can locate one of those, the rest will be easy.
 
Great job, David, the old gal is purring like a contented kitten.

I have an old consumer magazine that says an all-porcelain finish was not worthwhile for most people, unless they lived on the Gulf Coast or the Panama Canal Zone. They may have been right, but it sure looks nice!

I suppose the fact that the high-side compressors have to heat up is part of the reason old Frigidaires had to run a little longer than the competition? Or am I completely misunderstanding it?

Prewar Frigidaire operating economy was usually among the best despite the longer running time, based on what I've seen.
 
John - Thanks for the kind words on the videos! I would say you're mostly right about why the Frigidaire models run longer per cycle. The first part of the cycle is necessary for heat to build up.  Another reason, possibly having more of an effect; is that they used extremely low horsepower compressors, to help with energy use. It's better on things to have constant, low power usage, versus short bursts of higher power demand. 

 

Ralph - Thanks, and yeah I agree that more people should actually care about the quality of work they do! The sad fact of the matter is; the skills are being lost. With all of the throw-away appliances now, very few will do any in-depth repairs. 

 

Ken - Your teacher is probably right!  Although this is a hotly debated subject.  The Frigidaire Meter-Miser was produced by the millions and as such, you see more bad ones because there were more of them made in the first place.  GM banked on the simplicity of the design and fewer failure points as giving their design an edge.  GE and others banked on overengineering to gain a longevity advantage.  Both design philosophies worked, but in the sales numbers game, it seems Frigidaire really did win out. 

 

Sincerely,

David 

 
 
Another Job Well Done David

Best Compressors ?

 

I would think that GE-Hot Point refrigerators far out sold Frigidaire from say 1930 through the 1960s, however I don't have the facts to prove it, maybe someone here does.

 

FD compressors were certainly more reliable from say 1950-the mid 60s as GE had lots of compressors that simply wore out and lost compression.

 

My all time favorite compressor is still the Whirlpool-Seeger rotary compressors, it was certainly the quietest and will always restart instantly if unplugged and plugged back in right away.

 

John L.
 
Just to follow up, Consumers’ Research Bulletin Annual Cumulative Number for September 1936 listed the Frigidaire DRS-5-36 as having the lowest monthly operating cost of the models tested, estimated at $1.50 to $1.80 per month at a rate of 6 cents per KWh.

The Kelvinator K6-36 was 40 cents per month greater, the General Electric V5 (flattop) was 50 cents higher, the Norge E-52-6 was 70 cents higher, the Westinghouse E50 was 90 cents higher, and the Coldspot Super Six (sold by Gimbels as well as Sears, who knew?) was $1.00 higher.

This doesn’t sound like much to modern readers, but if you account for inflation, it would be roughly like paying, what, $25 per month extra in electricity for a Coldspot instead of a Frigidaire?
 
John L.; thanks for the kind words about the Frigidaire repair!  I also like the Seeger rotary compressors. They seem to always work. You don't see as many of then today as you used to I'm sure - but I have yet to encounter a vintage fridge with a bad one. 

I'm currently working on an even earlier Sunbeam rotary compressor which, if I am not mistaken, is the design which Seeger acquired and used to design their hermetic rotary around. This one is open-drive. It is direct coupled to a GE motor; with everything inline; condenser fan on one end; motor in the center; and the rotary compressor on the other end. This one is part of a 30's Bohn Electric Icebox I am fixing for a friend. As with most of the SO2 era things, the seal was unserviceable after sitting as a static display for decades. 
Here is part one in that video series.  

 

Also, ran into one of the GE wear-out compressors last week. It was a 50's apartment size fridge. Would pump but not produce low enough evaporator pressure to freeze. I did the unthinkable and installed a salvaged modern compressor in it. This fridge is a "flipper" I was given for free. It's too nice to trash, because the compressor died early and the cabinet didn't see much use. But, it's got surface rust and not worth repainting. So I got it going with a compressor from my friend's junk appliances stash. He rents out properties and any abandoned or crap appliances get taken to a farm where we part them out. I was able to find a similar sized fridge with a static cooled condenser, so that compressor got re-deployed LOL.   

Surprisingly, I have never had trouble selling rusty examples locally. Rewired and sold with a guarantee, they seem to be easy to move on.  I'm hoping this repair will allow me to move this on to a new owner instead of the junk heap. 

Supersuds John - Thanks for the information on the energy use.  I wonder how much of that difference was due to compressor efficiency versus cabinet insulation?  The Seeger rotary on the Coldspots seems to use very little power; similar to the Frigidaire. Both designs use about 150W while running. That is no indication of total energy cost, because it doesn't factor duty-cycle. 

I have noticed, though, that the Coldspot doesn't seem to have as good of cabinet insulation. Right now I have two Coldspots, a Westinghouse, and the Frigidaire from this video all test running. We've had some warm and humid weather. During those days, the Coldspots both have condensation on the exterior on a larger area than the others.  The Frigidaire has hardly any condensation, which would indicate to me that the insulation is doing a better job keeping the cabinet exterior from being colder than the room temperature. That is in contrast to the Coldspot which has about 20% of the side sweating. One of the two Coldspots I had the cooling system out of it for repairs. When the lines went back in the cabinet, I added more fiberglass insulation stuffing to the left side of the cabinet, in the area where the lines displaced the original.  Interestingly, that one area on that Coldspot has no condensation. There's a dry patch where the new insulation is located. Makes you wonder.....
 

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