Lysol Laundry Sanitizer

[joe_in_philly]

I saw this at ACME last week. Is it new? I didn't see it on the Lysol website.

Since it requires 16 minutes of contact time during the rinse, it requires user intervention to pause the machine. I imagine many people will just add it to the fabric softener dispenser and hope for the best.

 

[jamiel]

What was the active ingredient? The medical instructions are a little scary!

 

[tomturbomatic]

I recently saw it, too. Given that it is to be used AFTER washing, I would bet that it is quaternary ammonia-based, but I wonder how they made it HE. Quat foams up a lot. Since it does not require agitation, just exposure, all you would have to do is add it to the water, agitate to get it infused into the fabrics and then let soak for 16 minutes. I wonder if it reduces absorbancy like some quat-based fabric softeners can.

 

[gyrafoam]

Language is odd. Directions repeatedly refer to "Rinse Cycle Wash". So which is it, Rinse Cycle or Wash?
Seems to me there was an additive years ago, maybe in the 80's that was added to the Wash Cycle. It makes more sense to me unless the manufacturer wants a residual left on the clothing.

 

[launderess]

Everything old is new again....



The stuff is quat based sanitizer similar those offered by Persil, Sagrotan and other hygienespüler products found in Europe or elsewhere.

http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/4455957/my-apologies-about-lysol-laundry-sanitizer

Quat based sanitizers and disinfectants have long been used by in healthcare and other industries including commercial laundries. However as they are inactivated by soils and overcome by too much "germs" they are usually always used on surfaces or whatever that is cleaned first. Sort of the "last mile" of sanitation if you will.

Quat based cleaners or whatever are used in food prep and other places because it is a "no rinse" solution to sanitation.

 

[joe_in_philly]

That is interesting. I wonder if it is the same ingredient that is in Downy Antibac sold in the Philippines. I can't seem to access Downy's Philippines site, so I'll have to check out the packets I picked up when I was there.

 

[launderess]

Apparently there are a few different scents for this product.

http://www.kellysolutions.com/mn/sh...+ADDITIVE+FRESH+BLOSSOMS+SCENT&EPA_Id=777-128

Dust mites?
http://www.kellysolutions.com/mn/sh...LEACH+USE+AS+AN+ADDITIVE+FRESH+BLOSSOMS+SCENT

http://www.kellysolutions.com/mn/sh...+ADDITIVE+FRESH+BLOSSOMS+SCENT&EPA_Id=777-128

Things that make you go "hmmmmm".

http://pgpro.com/brands/bacstop-fab...itizer-liquid-concentrate-closed-loop-15-gal/

What you need to know about quats:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_ammonium_cation

http://www.foodsafetymagazine.com/m...nd-disinfectants-the-chemicals-of-prevention/

 

[mattl]

I liked an used the Lysol powered sanitizer for years, still have a brick of a box of it in my laundry cabinet.

 

[jamiel]

ISTR that Lysol product was some sort of chlorinated product...it went in the wash and cautioned against use on bright colors, as I recall.

 

[supersuds]

Yes, the old Lysol had a little chlorine in it, and also phosphates, which was nice.

 

[toploader55]

Just my two cents...

More chemicals for your skin to absorb.

 

[stan]

It says

"When you wash your clothes in cold water bacteria can survive"
Umm ya!
So how about...don't use cold water! Who's washing washing nasty laundry in cold? Whoever you are stop! Didn't your mother teach you better?
Do you wash nasty dishes in cold water too? Stop doing that if you are.
Mom said LOL

 

[askolover]

Stan that's the problem!  Mothers don't teach kids anything anymore...they learn everything from the internet and their phones!

 

[tomturbomatic]

Stupidity is as lethal as any other pathogen.

 

[launderess]

In Europe

Purpose of these "hygiene rinses" was for laundry that couldn't or shouldn't be washing in hot or boiling water and or dried in a hot dryer. That and of course couldn't be subjected to bleach, chlorine or oxygen. Things like Lycra and other man made fibers, and or "fine laundry".

These were important as the move for female "intimate apparel" began to move from pure cotton or linen to various wholly or partially man made blends. In order to cope with a bout of; well, yeast infections, and or for women prone to such or had other issues, these rinses were meant for their undergarments that couldn't be "sanitized" by normal laundering methods. For the men it was athlete's' foot and socks that again could not withstand harsh laundering.

Persil and others latched onto the increasing trend of not only warm or cold water being increasingly used for laundry (all those "turn the dial down" advert campaigns), but the fact many items of clothing or household textiles come with care labels specifying "warm or cold wash, no bleach".

Unlike decades ago when everything was mostly pure cotton or perhaps linen, and was white or colorfast, much clothing or textiles today are colors and or made from fabrics that cannot (in theory) be subjected to the hot and often harsh washing of past. So to add the measure of "security" you use a sanitizing laundry rinse.

There is also the trend towards using liquid detergents which not only do not contain bleaches, but lack the sanitizing power of alkaline substances. That whiff you get in your kit or shirt underarms is normally taken care of by the fact human perspiration normally is acidic. Alkaline substances obviously will cancel that out, and in the case of some other substances such as Borax have (mild) disinfecting qualities.

Some liquid detergents in past and today claim and maybe do deal with "whiff", others not so much.


https://www.amazon.com/Persil-Hygiene-Disinfectant-Rinse-PACK/product-reviews/B0060CIT2S



All this being said, no, you do not need any sort of hygiene rinse, especially if using good hot water and a detergent with bleach, and or adding it separate. But for those who cannot or will not....

 

[launderess]

And further more to that!

As one who has sat through a bacteriology class and lab am here to tell you the number of diseases transmitted by contact with textiles is rather low to nil. Maybe smallpox, "flesh eating" strep and a limited amount of others, but for all intents and purposes long as one is healthy with intact skin, germs aren't an issue on fabrics.

Now if one suspected such and or as in the case of say healthcare laundry, you aren't going to be mucking about with a sanitizing rinse. Well you might as an extra measure, but generally things would go the same as they have for 100 to 200 years. Plenty of hot water, lots of detergent and bleaching (chlorine or oxygen). Then a trip through a hot dryer and or ironed with a hot iron will be more than enough to kill off anything that could harm.

 

[stan]

Can't temember

the last time my washer temp control dial was turned to cold?
For wash or rinse.

 

[askolover]

Launderess,

are you a Nurse too???  I've picked up on several cues that you might be.

 

Same here Stan.  Heck, this Miele will even allow a hot rinse if I desire, I just have to change the programming for it to do it. But I think that would be overkill. 

 

I remember that lysol powder.  My mother used it back then.  Now days, if I want to sanitize my color uniforms I just wash them in hot or very warm with a little Lysol liquid...been doing it for years and never had a problem.

 

 

[frigilux]

It would be annoying to have to catch a front-loader during the final rinse and pause it for 16 minutes. However....if Lysol's Laundry Sanitizer becomes a big seller, I could see manufacturers adding a 'Sanitizing Rinse' option that would automatically extend the final rinse, much as some machines have an 'oxi' option, which releases oxygen cleaners at the right time during the wash.

In fact, wouldn't it be interesting if manufacturers dropped the traditional Sanitize cycle (which heats water for an extended period) in favor of this method of sanitization? Better watch my mouth; the Sanitize cycle is the one option for truly hot water on my Maytag 8100.

While I'm a die-hard liquid chlorine bleach guy, Lysol Laundry Sanitizer would certainly come in handy for non-bleachable loads. This is why all bed, bath, and kitchen linens as well as undergarments in my house are white.[this post was last edited: 3/20/2017-16:47]