Mike
they did the mains in the street 5 years ago but not the main up my hill, they camera'd it and said it was fine.
they did the mains in the street 5 years ago but not the main up my hill, they camera'd it and said it was fine.
A Ford in every driveway -
- Thread starter jetcone
- Start date
Help Support :
Thanks!
Jon,
I have the metal ring, however, I am missing the rubber ring. I understand how it goes together. Do you by chance have an extra rubber ring? I want to get this thing dancing!
Regards
Marty
Jon,
I have the metal ring, however, I am missing the rubber ring. I understand how it goes together. Do you by chance have an extra rubber ring? I want to get this thing dancing!
Regards
Marty
HI marty
sorry I don't, parts for these machines are scarcer than anything. You could fabricate it from a strip of thick neoprene and make cross cuts. Neoprene seals together with super glue. Its the same width as the ring, it just needs to stand off from the skirt so that it pumps through the cross cuts.
I am on the hunt for parts, hopefully at some point the treasure trove will appear, cross your fingers.
sorry I don't, parts for these machines are scarcer than anything. You could fabricate it from a strip of thick neoprene and make cross cuts. Neoprene seals together with super glue. Its the same width as the ring, it just needs to stand off from the skirt so that it pumps through the cross cuts.
I am on the hunt for parts, hopefully at some point the treasure trove will appear, cross your fingers.
angus
Well-known member
Great pictures and vids of the Philco. How do you load that washer to prevent clothing (especially sheets) from turning into one long rope? Do you visually divide the tub into quadrants and load it like a Frigidaire - think ribbon candy? For some reason, I can't visualize it. I only saw Philcos in operation live twice in my life. One of my neighbors had an early Miss America and another friend's mother had the late model Custom Imperial but I don't recall seeing it being loaded.
Interesting observation that perhaps with the newer Philcos that had the more curved wash plate, closer attention to water level might prevent the "fabric doughnut" problem.
Interesting observation that perhaps with the newer Philcos that had the more curved wash plate, closer attention to water level might prevent the "fabric doughnut" problem.
Angus
You've got the answer already. Yes I load it just like the Frigidaire in quadrants careful not to rope around the Hulatator. But water level is key in these pulsator machines. Too much and things just float away too low and the pulsator tugs and nothing moves.
From using Jet Action machines for years was great training for the Philcos.
This is my procedure for good washing results:
1 know where your water levels are with the selector on the tub walls, use the holes as markers,
2 load dry clothes
3 look at the side wall of tub and set the selector based on that
4 you want the water level to be just about an inch below the dry load level line.
Alternatively:
you can load clothes start machine and wait until you just see the whole load start to float and rise on the tub wall, then back the selector down to start the machine at that level.
And you're off to washer heaven.
Angus you'll have to come up for the wash-in. I'll post the date here in this thread if Phil & Paul EVER get there butts down here from the FROZEN NORTH !!
You've got the answer already. Yes I load it just like the Frigidaire in quadrants careful not to rope around the Hulatator. But water level is key in these pulsator machines. Too much and things just float away too low and the pulsator tugs and nothing moves.
From using Jet Action machines for years was great training for the Philcos.
This is my procedure for good washing results:
1 know where your water levels are with the selector on the tub walls, use the holes as markers,
2 load dry clothes
3 look at the side wall of tub and set the selector based on that
4 you want the water level to be just about an inch below the dry load level line.
Alternatively:
you can load clothes start machine and wait until you just see the whole load start to float and rise on the tub wall, then back the selector down to start the machine at that level.
And you're off to washer heaven.
Angus you'll have to come up for the wash-in. I'll post the date here in this thread if Phil & Paul EVER get there butts down here from the FROZEN NORTH !!
philr
Well-known member
Right now is the rainy north!
Lol! Sorry Phil
Here's something to cheer you up - I videoed Mikes comments about the filtering - look at how much water is flowing thru that filter !!
Here's something to cheer you up - I videoed Mikes comments about the filtering - look at how much water is flowing thru that filter !!
Ben here is the data plate
Take a gander- does that manufacturing code of 5 mean 1967 ?
Take a gander- does that manufacturing code of 5 mean 1967 ?
I was going thru the repair manual that I have for the Philco washer from 1965 and it says the difference between fill settings of low and high is a measly 3 inches. A full washbasket water level is 11 inches deep. It makes sense now that you get such good turnover with this undulating wash action matching the water level to the load and going a tad under. In my aunt's Imperial washer, I dont think she ever moved the water level from Large to match the load size. Her loads went around in circles, no rollover at all and I think she might have overloaded it some as well. I am going to ask my cousin about it since now I am curious.
The other thing I have to ask Jon...how is the wash result? Meaning is it removing stains well? I love watching the videos and I noticed a good amount of water rolling thru the load. I get a kick out of the water waves on top of the water surface and the spray rinses during the first spin and final as well. I wish my SQ washer did that, but it doesnt.
Oh and the other thing is...your right about the manual being vague about what the fluid is for the clutch wick. I remember that the fluid had a reddish tint to it for some reason.
The other thing I have to ask Jon...how is the wash result? Meaning is it removing stains well? I love watching the videos and I noticed a good amount of water rolling thru the load. I get a kick out of the water waves on top of the water surface and the spray rinses during the first spin and final as well. I wish my SQ washer did that, but it doesnt.
Oh and the other thing is...your right about the manual being vague about what the fluid is for the clutch wick. I remember that the fluid had a reddish tint to it for some reason.
hippiedoll
Well-known member
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
sorry for making the scene late here, i was out of state for a week. but i wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS on such a beautiful coppertone philco!!!
the brown cabinet and the turquoise tub & agitator make an awesome color combination. i think i've even seen this color combination on some new bedspreads & comforters.
and you did an OUTTA SIGHT job on restoring that beautiful machine!!!
as always, an impressive job there jetcone!!!
i LOVE it!!!
)
sorry for making the scene late here, i was out of state for a week. but i wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS on such a beautiful coppertone philco!!!
the brown cabinet and the turquoise tub & agitator make an awesome color combination. i think i've even seen this color combination on some new bedspreads & comforters.
and you did an OUTTA SIGHT job on restoring that beautiful machine!!!
as always, an impressive job there jetcone!!!
i LOVE it!!!
)
Well thank you
Christina, I was wondering where you were. It is a fun machine for sure and I agree the colors are stunning.
Christina, I was wondering where you were. It is a fun machine for sure and I agree the colors are stunning.
Oh okay now I am duly impressed
1 set Queen sheets
1 bath towels
4 hand towels
4 pillow cases
2 underware
And there's still room and it's not even on Full fill [this post was last edited: 10/23/2014-16:52]
1 set Queen sheets
1 bath towels
4 hand towels
4 pillow cases
2 underware
And there's still room and it's not even on Full fill [this post was last edited: 10/23/2014-16:52]
ovrphil
Well-known member
Reply #10
Jetcone - I apologize for not replying -thought you were addressing another Phil ...I just found a Philco from the archives here and posted it, but things have moved far beyond here and congrats on your efforts.
Back to the real show now.
Jetcone - I apologize for not replying -thought you were addressing another Phil ...I just found a Philco from the archives here and posted it, but things have moved far beyond here and congrats on your efforts.
Back to the real show now.
That last video was impressive...actually they all are...now since your showing the rollover ability of this machine...I gotta ask...what about a load of jeans? I read a comment here that claimed that jeans have a tough time rolling over in the washer. And so far you have proved a lot of people wrong....
Yay Another Philco Ford Appliance Saved
Impressive wash action, but that is only about a 6 pound load, 1/2 of what Philco claimed this washer will wash, lets see a real 12 pound load.
Impressive wash action, but that is only about a 6 pound load, 1/2 of what Philco claimed this washer will wash, lets see a real 12 pound load.
IN DUE TIME
My little Pretties , in due time.
My little Pretties , in due time.
I have come to the concusion that pound ratings are meaningless. To me, a full load is loaded loosely into the washbasket to the top of row of holes only. This loading technique along with proper water level allows the load to wash properly. Basically its volume that matters not weight. And also the load is not packed or wrapped around the agitator. I can see why the loads roll so well in the videos posted here...its loaded properly.And more importantly, used properly.
Nice-
Thank you Mike for your comment ! I have been thinking on this very thing.
I've been using flapper style washers for years and never had trouble with cleaning or knots. The 3-ring machines do make ropes but thats just easier to get into the dryer, just grab and pull; the whole thing comes out and into the dryer in one shot .
BTW- I weighed that load yesterday it <span style="text-decoration: underline;">was</span> 6 #, good eye john.
And the wash came out brilliant, either I'm imagining it or this machine really gets fine dirt out of the clothes. Of course I am using Rosalie's, so any comparison to any other detergent is not a fair playing field.
But I was thinking of the water flow in this machine last nite.
Water is an incompressible fluid so the clothes are getting slammed with 595 impacts/minute no matter where they are in the tub and there is so much energy put into the wash water that you see standing waves on the surface as Greg was pointing out. Standing waves represent a high energy density in fluid media.
595 i/m is ten times the action compared to 50 impacts/minute tumbling in a Bendix.
The Kelvinator/ABC is about 300 swirls / minute and that cleans really well I think. But a swirl is not a slam!
Everybody- think about that today, that's your homework!
[this post was last edited: 10/25/2014-07:52]
Thank you Mike for your comment ! I have been thinking on this very thing.
I've been using flapper style washers for years and never had trouble with cleaning or knots. The 3-ring machines do make ropes but thats just easier to get into the dryer, just grab and pull; the whole thing comes out and into the dryer in one shot .
BTW- I weighed that load yesterday it <span style="text-decoration: underline;">was</span> 6 #, good eye john.
And the wash came out brilliant, either I'm imagining it or this machine really gets fine dirt out of the clothes. Of course I am using Rosalie's, so any comparison to any other detergent is not a fair playing field.
But I was thinking of the water flow in this machine last nite.
Water is an incompressible fluid so the clothes are getting slammed with 595 impacts/minute no matter where they are in the tub and there is so much energy put into the wash water that you see standing waves on the surface as Greg was pointing out. Standing waves represent a high energy density in fluid media.
595 i/m is ten times the action compared to 50 impacts/minute tumbling in a Bendix.
The Kelvinator/ABC is about 300 swirls / minute and that cleans really well I think. But a swirl is not a slam!
Everybody- think about that today, that's your homework!
[this post was last edited: 10/25/2014-07:52]
Philco-Fords Hybread Ultrasonic Washer
Interesting thoughts Jon, maybe we were closer to the elusive ultrasonic washing machine than we thought.
Now on to the big test, 8 pairs of my badly soiled work blue jeans, [ you can use 5 of your size jeans ] and we will see if the ultrasonic waves get to all the dirt.
Interesting thoughts Jon, maybe we were closer to the elusive ultrasonic washing machine than we thought.
Now on to the big test, 8 pairs of my badly soiled work blue jeans, [ you can use 5 of your size jeans ] and we will see if the ultrasonic waves get to all the dirt.
ovrphil
Well-known member
Jetcone...you have to be brain dead.....
not to....
find...
your quest....
interesting!
Is there an ultrasonic cleaner for clothing?
NASA/Medicine...I know, more homework
not to....
find...
your quest....
interesting!
Is there an ultrasonic cleaner for clothing?
NASA/Medicine...I know, more homework
