That is an
amazing use of a Blue Arm KA !!
Coming up a BobLoad® in the portable Youngstown Jet Tower....
amazing use of a Blue Arm KA !!
Coming up a BobLoad® in the portable Youngstown Jet Tower....
'A KitchenAid dishwasher for every kitchen....or basement....'
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firedome
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nice machine Paul!
that series is their best looking imo, and the only "modern" looking KA with the Cast Iron Wonder. Having used a single arm KDC-17 for 15 yrs in our first house, we never felt it lacking in "Washability" in any way, as long as minimal attention was paid to loading. We always put deep section items up top and flat section items below, which seems rather obvious, but evidently a concept beyond some folks! And ya gotta love being done & done in 45 minutes!
that series is their best looking imo, and the only "modern" looking KA with the Cast Iron Wonder. Having used a single arm KDC-17 for 15 yrs in our first house, we never felt it lacking in "Washability" in any way, as long as minimal attention was paid to loading. We always put deep section items up top and flat section items below, which seems rather obvious, but evidently a concept beyond some folks! And ya gotta love being done & done in 45 minutes!
but evidently a concept beyond some folks!
I"m not oblivious to that fact. But it cannot be done when all you have is an entire load of both racks of pots, pans, casserole dishes, mixing bowls, ... Stupid to run a load with just one rack full twice. And that's what I've always hated about 1-arm wonders. I observed in real-time ssurburbia in the 60s & 70s pots, pans, mixing bowls and such being washed by hand because housewives knew they could not load it up with all this type of stuff and expect the top rack to get clean. Or tops racks filling up with glasses and cups/mugs wayyy before plates were accummulated enough to fill the bottom rack. Whereas at OUR house it wasn't an issue and requiring premeditated loading.
I"m not oblivious to that fact. But it cannot be done when all you have is an entire load of both racks of pots, pans, casserole dishes, mixing bowls, ... Stupid to run a load with just one rack full twice. And that's what I've always hated about 1-arm wonders. I observed in real-time ssurburbia in the 60s & 70s pots, pans, mixing bowls and such being washed by hand because housewives knew they could not load it up with all this type of stuff and expect the top rack to get clean. Or tops racks filling up with glasses and cups/mugs wayyy before plates were accummulated enough to fill the bottom rack. Whereas at OUR house it wasn't an issue and requiring premeditated loading.
Congratulations, Paul!
Did you notice water dribbling out of the drain hose during washing and rinsing? I had that and found it was water falling into the overflow drain at the left front corner. I put some seal on the top holes and it stopped. I love the shwoop-shwoop of the walls of water moving past the door. I have often wondered what a 15 would have been like with a BBWA.
Did you notice water dribbling out of the drain hose during washing and rinsing? I had that and found it was water falling into the overflow drain at the left front corner. I put some seal on the top holes and it stopped. I love the shwoop-shwoop of the walls of water moving past the door. I have often wondered what a 15 would have been like with a BBWA.
KDS-58
Great demo Paul, yes the little bit of water dribbling out the drain during wash is somewhat normal as Tom mentioned, it might also be a slight leak past the drain valve seal, in any case the wash period is too short for this to be a problem. It might also be the automatic sediment purge, LOl.
Hi Bob I have also lived with one arm DWs and while with careful loading they are sure better than no DW, but after a while you just get tired of the restriction and difficult loading. My friend Bob in Cleveland though he would NEVER get rid of his KDS-17 till I got him to install a TOL 1987 Kenmore Ultra-Wash DW and he has never looked back. He and I are constantly amazed just how dirty dishes can go in and you never have any stinky mess growing in the bottom of the machine.
Great demo Paul, yes the little bit of water dribbling out the drain during wash is somewhat normal as Tom mentioned, it might also be a slight leak past the drain valve seal, in any case the wash period is too short for this to be a problem. It might also be the automatic sediment purge, LOl.
Hi Bob I have also lived with one arm DWs and while with careful loading they are sure better than no DW, but after a while you just get tired of the restriction and difficult loading. My friend Bob in Cleveland though he would NEVER get rid of his KDS-17 till I got him to install a TOL 1987 Kenmore Ultra-Wash DW and he has never looked back. He and I are constantly amazed just how dirty dishes can go in and you never have any stinky mess growing in the bottom of the machine.
A test of the 'Utility and Utensil' cycle...
which could also be called 'Turquoisedude's Totally Unverifiable Dishwasher Torture Test'...
Last weekend was a 'short cycle' one due to visits on a couple of potential new homes on Saturday. I made a belated Easter supper on Sunday (Hubby had been in Brazil) following one of my bizarre family traditions. I made a smoked pork shoulder (aka 'picnic' ham) with scalloped potatoes; to go-with, I oven-steamed some turnip cubes.
I had some pretty dirty cooking utensils and I figured I'd try out the suggestion in the KitchenAid 14-Series owners manual - wash your dirty pots and pans using the 'Utility and Utensil' cycle to soften the soils, scrape or scrub off what may have been left, then run 'em through a 'Full Cycle'.
Well, I wish I had taken some before pictures, but I trundled the utensils and dinner plates down to the basement for a bath.
which could also be called 'Turquoisedude's Totally Unverifiable Dishwasher Torture Test'...
Last weekend was a 'short cycle' one due to visits on a couple of potential new homes on Saturday. I made a belated Easter supper on Sunday (Hubby had been in Brazil) following one of my bizarre family traditions. I made a smoked pork shoulder (aka 'picnic' ham) with scalloped potatoes; to go-with, I oven-steamed some turnip cubes.
I had some pretty dirty cooking utensils and I figured I'd try out the suggestion in the KitchenAid 14-Series owners manual - wash your dirty pots and pans using the 'Utility and Utensil' cycle to soften the soils, scrape or scrub off what may have been left, then run 'em through a 'Full Cycle'.
Well, I wish I had taken some before pictures, but I trundled the utensils and dinner plates down to the basement for a bath.
Definitely not a Bob-Load... I was trying to maximize water exposure, what can I say...
I filled both detergent cups and hit that yellow button.
I filled both detergent cups and hit that yellow button.
Now, I will swear any oath you want on this... These result photos have not been touched up, photoshopped, or double-exposed.
When the cycle ended, I opened up the dishwasher to check on the results. Hubby came running at the second "I don't effing believe it".
The unrinsed, unsoaked, and un-hand-scrubbed pots and pans came out beautifully clean!!
The Revere Ware pan had been used to make the white sauce for the scalloped potatoes. Not a trace was left on the pan bottom or sides.
The oval pyrex dish had been used to 'oven-steam' the turnips. When it went into the KA, there was coating of steamed residue on the dish and lid. One Utility and Utensil wash later, nada!
Finally, the stainless roaster was used for the pork shoulder. There was not a lot of heavy goop, and I did scrape out some of the heavier residue and most of the grease with a rubber scraper before washing. But look at this - nothing left on the pan bottom at all. And it was in the TOP rack!
Hubby may disagree, but I think the KDS-54 will have a permanent place in a kitchen really soon. I cannot believe how well this dishwasher has performed so far. And yes, I'll admit, the '56 GE impeller-wash machine could not have even come close to this. Oh, wait Hubby may read this... DELETE DELETE .... LOL
When the cycle ended, I opened up the dishwasher to check on the results. Hubby came running at the second "I don't effing believe it".
The unrinsed, unsoaked, and un-hand-scrubbed pots and pans came out beautifully clean!!
The Revere Ware pan had been used to make the white sauce for the scalloped potatoes. Not a trace was left on the pan bottom or sides.
The oval pyrex dish had been used to 'oven-steam' the turnips. When it went into the KA, there was coating of steamed residue on the dish and lid. One Utility and Utensil wash later, nada!
Finally, the stainless roaster was used for the pork shoulder. There was not a lot of heavy goop, and I did scrape out some of the heavier residue and most of the grease with a rubber scraper before washing. But look at this - nothing left on the pan bottom at all. And it was in the TOP rack!
Hubby may disagree, but I think the KDS-54 will have a permanent place in a kitchen really soon. I cannot believe how well this dishwasher has performed so far. And yes, I'll admit, the '56 GE impeller-wash machine could not have even come close to this. Oh, wait Hubby may read this... DELETE DELETE .... LOL
norgeway
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I love
Most any old dishwasher,especially the old impeller models and Frigidaires Spin Tube, but the fact remains, nothing will blast off burned on greasy food like a OLD Kitchenaid, I found this out with a KDS 17 I had years ago in Lenoir, I wish I still had it, I have a Custom 21 now that's fine, but the one arm wonder still will outwash anything, forget about what you have heard about the top rack not getting clean, unless you lay a cookie sheet down flat on the bottom rack...whatever you put in it will get clean, that water is under such high pressure ,it gets everywhere.
Most any old dishwasher,especially the old impeller models and Frigidaires Spin Tube, but the fact remains, nothing will blast off burned on greasy food like a OLD Kitchenaid, I found this out with a KDS 17 I had years ago in Lenoir, I wish I still had it, I have a Custom 21 now that's fine, but the one arm wonder still will outwash anything, forget about what you have heard about the top rack not getting clean, unless you lay a cookie sheet down flat on the bottom rack...whatever you put in it will get clean, that water is under such high pressure ,it gets everywhere.
dynaflow
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I want
soooooooooooooo want one
soooooooooooooo want one
Results don't surprise me.
50 gallons/mimute
is flying around in that tub and that about does it !
But I gotta say I love my 21.
Paul how did you prepare and cook your pork shoulder?I have one sitting in the fridge right now.
is flying around in that tub and that about does it !
But I gotta say I love my 21.
Paul how did you prepare and cook your pork shoulder?I have one sitting in the fridge right now.
Arthur - I don't have the full set, but I've almost got a service for 6. I'm missing 3 fruit bowls; I don't know if they had cereal bowls, but I don't have 'em...
Jon - I'll post the recipe in Super. It's incredibly easy and it's delicious!
Jon - I'll post the recipe in Super. It's incredibly easy and it's delicious!
And now....
A verifiable test of the KDS-54... Yes, it's time for "Turquoisedude's Totally Unscientific Dishwasher Torture Test"!
So this time around, I had some pretty challenging soils. The clear pyrex roasting pan was used to bake chicken breasts, the white pyrex pan was used for a batch of scalloped potatoes, and the Mixmaster bowl had some dried-on peanut-butter cookie batter. Plus an assortment of plates, cups, glasses, and cutlery. Only a slight amount of pre-treatment was done on the two roasting pans and that consisted of a scraping off of heavier residue. The big difference with this load is that soils were allowed to dry on while I waited to fill the dishwasher (running a half-empty dishwasher was a serious mortal sin when I was a brat...)
So let's load up the KA and see how we do this time around...
A verifiable test of the KDS-54... Yes, it's time for "Turquoisedude's Totally Unscientific Dishwasher Torture Test"!
So this time around, I had some pretty challenging soils. The clear pyrex roasting pan was used to bake chicken breasts, the white pyrex pan was used for a batch of scalloped potatoes, and the Mixmaster bowl had some dried-on peanut-butter cookie batter. Plus an assortment of plates, cups, glasses, and cutlery. Only a slight amount of pre-treatment was done on the two roasting pans and that consisted of a scraping off of heavier residue. The big difference with this load is that soils were allowed to dry on while I waited to fill the dishwasher (running a half-empty dishwasher was a serious mortal sin when I was a brat...)
So let's load up the KA and see how we do this time around...
Cycle used was 'Utility and Utensil' with both detergent cups filled.
Well....
The results were a bit less impressive than my first U&U test...
The scalloped potato dish was mostly clean but there was still some residue. The picture I took of the clear pyrex pan after did not turn out, alas. There was some blackened residue still left in the corners of the pan. And oopsie, looks like we got some yibblet residue on the top of the mixer bowl and inside a mason jar...
The results were a bit less impressive than my first U&U test...
The scalloped potato dish was mostly clean but there was still some residue. The picture I took of the clear pyrex pan after did not turn out, alas. There was some blackened residue still left in the corners of the pan. And oopsie, looks like we got some yibblet residue on the top of the mixer bowl and inside a mason jar...
But the rest of the load, including the inside of the mixer bowl washed fine!
I'll need to try another "Torture Test" with soils that haven't dried on. I need to get some people down to Ogden so I can throw a dinner party.... LOL
I'll need to try another "Torture Test" with soils that haven't dried on. I need to get some people down to Ogden so I can throw a dinner party.... LOL
