A KitchenAid Patrician Brooklyn Bound...

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Thanks to an ad posting from Phil, and for Mark being so kind picking it up for me, I am now the proud owner of a KitchenAid KDP-20 Patrician.

 

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http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?64924
[this post was last edited: 4/15/2016-03:30]

 

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Mark told me the Patrician is in nice shape and sent me these pictures:

 



 



 



 



 

Clean underneath

 

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We plan the meet in Maryland in the summer so I can pick-up the Patrician.

 

That will give me time to modify a base cabinet that I have and lay down some pipe.

 

Stay tuned!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[appnut]

Louie, glad you finally found a KA you wanted and had the feature(s) you were looking for.  Very nice looking too!!

 

[chachp]

Nice looking dishwasher

 

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">These are great machines!!</span>

 

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Thanks Bob, while not a Superba, I think this one will do nicely. The condition was nice and the price was right.

 

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Thank you Ralph. I have always been fond of KitchenAid.

 

[newvista58]

CONGRATS LOUIE.....

a MOST Excellent find. I'm glad you
got what you wanted

 

[moparwash]

A Hobart grows in Brooklyn!

Great find Louie!

 

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Thanks Louis!

 

Thanks Jerry!

 

[william637]

Laying Pipe?

Do you need help with that? It sounds like an AWFULLY BIG PROJECT to me. Just sayin....

You will be happy to know that your dishwasher is very cozy with some friends. My front bedroom now has like six dishwashers in it. Anytime anyone comes over to spend the night they just roll their eyes. I expect the show hoarders to be knocking on my door any day now...

 

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"Laying pipe"

 

 

Well Mark I'd never say no to a helping hand. Specially on a big project. Glad the Patrician is all comfy and cozy with his mates. Once again, thank you so  much Mark.

 

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Does anyone know he exact dimensions of the KDP-20? I need to modify a base cabinet I have. 

 

Thanks in advance!

 

 

 

 

[chachp]

Here you go.

 

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Thank you Ralph! Any idea how deep the Patrician is? I'm trying to determine if I'll have clearance for a 2" drainage pipe in the rear.

 

I can't use the base cabinet after all, it's only 23 inches wide. Going to have to by a pre-made  one.

 

[chachp]

Check your email.

 

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">I sent you something that may help.  It's not the best scan but the opening dimensions are on there.  It looks like it wants a minimum of 24 1/4.  Depending how low you put the pipe you should be OK.</span>

 

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Thank you again Ralph! It seems I'll have the clearance if the Patrician is 21" at it's deepest point.

 

[combo52]

Installing a KD-20 Series KA DW

Hi Louie, you need 24"in depth for this and most US DWs, many European DWs are only 22" deep however.

 

One neat thing about KA DWs from this time period is you can install them freestanding and attach sides and top as desired because of the DWs full frame construction, you may not really need a cabinet, sometimes this really helps if you have a tight space.

 

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Hey thanks John. I had no idea you could basically attach the sides and top directly to the dishwasher. The Patrician is going to go where the Maytag A-107 is now, between the G.E. and the Caloric so it is going to be free standing.

 

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An update to the title: A KitchenAid KDS-20 is Brooklyn Bound...

 

Why? Because I'm picking this up on Sunday:

 









 

Thanks Eddie!

http://https//capecod.craigslist.org/app/5698394071.html

 

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What happened to the KDP? Well Mark was about to drop it off to me on his way up north (I could just squeeze him to pieces for being so kind), but I ran across this ad that Eddie (Toploader55) had posted and , well, it's a Superba, I couldn't resist. So I gave my KDP to Mark (the very least I could do) and now my spouse and I are Cape Cod bound. Other than the mold on the upper lip of the wash tub, it certainly looks like what the seller described. It's not a a terribly long drive (about 5 hrs from Brooklyn, one way) but boy is my butt gonna be sore come Monday morning. Stay tuned!

 

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Oddly, this KDS does not have the chrome trim for panel inserts. I thought those were standard, or where they removed from this particular one?

 

[gilles8005]

KDS-19C

That dishwasher model is the Superba KDS-19C. It has only fan dry. The first Prewash and final rinse in all Sani Cycles heats the water to 150F. The 19 series has no interchangeable panels like the 20 Series and newer. This dishwasher also has no Sani Cycle meaning that the last rinse would heat the water to 165F

Another thing where the air exhaust in the right back corner is made of plastic that is the reason why all the Full Cycles dry in fan dry only consisting of no heat. If you notice the older series and the newer 20 series has a metal one for the Flo-Thru drying.

The 20 series bought back the Flo-Thru drying and the first prewash heats the water to 150F including those models had the interchangeable front panels with the stainless steel trim and the Superba model in the 20 series has the Sani Cycle that heats the water again to 165F.

 

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Thanks for the info Gilles!

 

 

Well it's finally in Brooklyn. What a drive. Going was a piece a cake, but oh coming back on I-95 was brutal. When I got there, the KA was still installed. But the seller got it out and it wasn't easy. There was no hot water hose connected to the dishwasher, it was a copper pipe. I had never seen someone do that kind on installation. It also meant it hasn't been moved since installed. Underneath was pristine, clean as a whistle. In fact, I was amazed how clean it was on the sides and top. The insulation looked perfect. There was some mold and light grime in the tub, but it, and the racks looked great. I didn't see any rust first hand, except a light rust spot on the filter. According to the seller, it was his parents machine. It was used twice a week, six months of the year since new. It was last used 2 years ago. I'll be posting pictures soon.

 

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Copper water line was common back in the day.  Our 1975 KDI-17a was installed (at the end of one leg of a U-shaped kitchen with the sink in the middle) with the water supply and drain line both copper.

 

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I haven't taken the KitchenAid out of the SUV yet, but I took a few pictures. There seems to be evidence of a leak, but I was going to replace all the hoses anyway. More to come.

 









 

Lower rack in great shape. Even has that elusive small items basket.

 

 

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A frineds mom

had one in her condo. It was leaking, so he removed it and had me install a new one. I told him he should have had me check the hoses, and clamps first. He just assumed the tub had rusted, or the pump seals were bad.
It may have even been leaking from the drain solenoid.

 

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Finally got it upstairs and in the terrace for now.

 

 

[goblues15]

By far my favorite dishwasher. Never had a dirty dish come out of the KA Still hunting for the rare stainless front version

 

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Yes,

some newer dishwashers only do "rinsed only" at best.