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one of the last BDs...

that thing is clean!!it is a couple months newer than my '86
70 series
I need to rotate one of my big BDs into use-just to enjoy the
sound effects if nothing else..(i try to rotate my secondary
machines from time to time to keep them all active)
 
I have looked into the jaws of The Lady...

and she looked back! LOL!

Now, you're wondering if there just happens to be underwater video? Would I disappoint?

You can hear the belt noise and a serious amount of water and bubbles from the cavitation off the fins... I'll have to practice blindly aiming the camera. This really opens the door to recording other wash actions! A Frigidaire would be a fright!

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Kick myself

I cannot tell you how many times I kicked myslf (especially after sweater disasters) and regretted NOT getting one of these sets in September/October of 1986. But nooo, I saw the DDs at a Sears in Rochester NY when visiting a former neighbor there in early late September/early October. I was seduced by the themostatic temp control of warm & cold water temps, the new panel look that moved the timer dial over to the right, the load rollover that was so reminiscent of Frigidaires and even the 1/18 as I rememberred it, and the slightly fasterr spin speeds over a BD. I wonder if I would still have that washer and dryer today if I'd goten them.

Andy, the last deterrgent dispenser on a Kenmore I saw was our 1970 Kenore 800 and the rusted kenmore Greg found last weekend. Is that all the flowthrough force of waterr there is through the deterrgent dispenser. Seems rather anemic. Drool!!
 
Wow, congrats on a great find! This is a unique model, as it is a Lady K but with a speckled tub. It sounds great and runs smooth. Love the under water shots.

Have a good one,
James
 
This Lady has a new adoptive home in Charlotte. I called Gordon with the model/serial and I think I almost heard him pass out! Seriously, He was having fun with this before he even saw the pictures. As I understand it, this Lady is newer than anything he has and he's been searching for even pictures of this one. I apparently have a knack of finding Kenmores with combinations of features that are uncommon elsewhere. I'll wait for Gordon to explain better than I can.

There really wasn't much wrong with her. I fixed the rear self leveling legs and there was a small leak @ the triple dispenser that seems to have disappeared after I seriously cleaned the mucked up softener dispenser cup. Nothing that should have warranted a possible death sentence for the Lady.

Another sucessful rescue from The Pile!

RCD

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VERY NICE KN BD machine!!If only the swap shop out here would have one of those on their sale floor-Keep waiting.
Love the underwater shots!!Now we REALLY know what goes on in those BD DA washers.I have a lower model BD WP-KN washer. Its a "kluge" from the swap shop like it just the same-a KN lower body and agitator with a WP top panel and control panel.Would like to see underwater shots of other washers too.Will have to look for one of those cameras that can film underwater.Very interesting.And can that camera film the goings on in a dishwasher too?Just don't try as Tom did on "Will It Blend" with his camera--it DIDN'T survive his Will It Blend test.Glad the camera survived the "Will It Wash" test!
 
Rex, have you considered contacting Gordon in Charlotte? He probably has about 25% of the world's existing machines at his fingertips. I'll bet he could help you get a decent machine that hasn't been mangled. If I were to want a KM BD, he'd be my first call...

Besides, I'm picky about where I adopt out my orphans and he's adopted several...

RCD
 
Andrew Great Find,
I am fairly new to the site and dont respond to many threads, this one i had to respond.
It looks like the only thing missing is the liquid detergent cup that fits into the center powder detergent spot. It works off of the Siphon method and adds liquid detergent to the washer. The only issue with this cup is that every once in a while had to clean out because lint built up in the center post of the cup and had to clean but no big deal. I may have one in my collection of parts I did have this model and used ot for several years as a matter of fact I have the console in my basement. I thought I read that one of the membeers needed this console but could not find the thread so if you are reading this email me i still have the console. I did question a few other members I met from NJ and they don't recall. It is a great machine and a workhorse I enjoyed using it you can't beat the belt drives and it looks pretty clean. Best of luck with it..I may also have the original books that came with the machine. Email me if interested in the soap dispensor cup or original books that came with my 90 series.
Bill
 
1985 Model Lady K

Such wonderfulness Andy!

Here's a wordy one, even for me:

As Andy eluded to, this has been a major mystery model for me. Without further ado, I will explain why.....

On July 4, 1986, at the young age of 21 I bought my Kenmore 70-series pair for my last year in college since my new place had a laundry closet. I had no clue that soon after, the belt-drives would be gone for good. I remember very clearly a few specific machines - the one I bought of course, the next model up that I almost bought had it not been for my Mom's scoffing (she didn't think a college student needed a new washer and dryer), the 24-inch DDs that I loathed (these were the models that look cosmetically like BD clones), and the Lady K and the Limited Edition.

I had no desire for an electronic machine, nor did I have any intention of paying the asking price for them. I probably would have bought something even less expensive than I bought, but to get a belt-drive machine I had to buy the 23701 model (entry level 70 series). Part of my goal was to duplicate what my Mom had, which at the time was a three year old 70-series, but hers had two more water levels and temps. I didn't care about that. I bought them, got my first credit card in the process, and couldn't wait to take delivery in August.

Later on, say in September or early October, I was in the store again and was SHOCKED and horrified to see mostly DDs and new control panels. There were only a few belt-drive models remaining, and one was mine, the other was the Lady, and a middle 70-series. There were all on close-out and were in the paper the following weekend.

Fast forward to 1992 when in the heyday of my washer rebuilding for re-sale, I got a 1-inch thick full-size Whirlpool catalog, which illustrates most every common repair part available for laundry products (laundry only) at the time. Agitators, pumps, timers, heating elements, motors, transmissions, you name it, it's in there except model-specific stuff and hardware items like nuts and bolts. Most of the good stuff has pictures/drawings.

At the end of the catalog is a comprehensive model number listing for Whirlpool and Kenmore washers, and later Kitchen Aid and Roper as well, though those are DD only. The Kenmore list begins with 1975 models and lists EVERY belt-drive model to the close of the line. I have been fascinated by this list for 18 years.

I have mentioned before that the last fully inclusive line of belt-drive Kenmores came out in 1983. At first they were made with some of the last 1981 and 1982 models. By 1984 they were all '83 models on the floor and in catalogs, except for the Electronic Limited Edition which carries a 1982 model number. There was 10 large-capacity models, starting with one 60-series and ending with a Lady similar to that featured in this post.

The model numbers for these all begin with 110.823, 8 for 1980s and 3 for 1983. The 2 means 29-inch cabinet. There are four curious models after the 1983s though listed in the WP catalog. I quickly figured out that three of them were the machines that Sears marketed with Toyota. These have 1984 model numbers (110.824xxxxx). They have different color woodgrain tops, woodgrain on the front of the panel too, silver instead of gold on the print, and no DA agitators. These were offered as sales incentives in lieu of rebates for cars. I have seen copies of all these machines and have one, but I NEVER saw any sign of the fourth, which is a 1985 90 series. The model is 110.82592100, and I could not find any difference at the Sears website between it and the 1983 Lady, which was a 110.82392100.

When Andy called me and told me what he had, he always likes to start out with this cute "Quiz Gordon" game by reading me a model number and having me describe what it is. This time as soon as he said "One one zero, dot eight two five" I had to sit down.... FINALLY I was going to find out what this elusive model is.

Well, from all external appearances, it's a clone to the 83 machines, BUT, there are a couple subtle differenes. I noticed when looking at early pics, that his machine has a non-porcelain lid and a speckled basket. I figured these were courtesy of a re-do shop's blending of parts which I used to see all the time. Even I transplanted porcelain tops onto machines that originally had painted tops, which usually rust in this part of the country.

Curiously, I pulled up two sessions with Sears' website, and compared parts lists from the 83 and the 85, side by side. As it turns out, the 85 came from the factory with the powder coated lid, a powder coated top, and the speckled basket!!! I was shocked.

The 83 brochures made a semi big-deal about the porcelain tops on 80 series and up machines, AND about the double coated white basket in certain 80 series and the 90 series Lady K. Why the 85 model was de-contented with lower 70 series powder coated parts and a non-white basket is beyond me, but I suspect that this was done to keep the Lady in production during parts shortages, OR to offer a cheaper Lady in promotions.

Up until hearing from Andy about this machine, my 70-series has been the newest Kenmore Belt-drive I've ever been aware of. It was made in the 32nd week of 1986, but this one is three weeks newer, being made in the 35th week. VERY COOL. I am betting that by this time there wasn't any more porcelain lids and tops left, and a shortage of white baskets (they used more in the Whirlpool LA7800s until early 1987 though), so they created this model number. They couldn't use a 1986 number because that was used by the Lady K DD machine.

This machine may be very rare - not that it's very different from the 83, but I anyway appreciate the differences. It's a nice looking one too - VERY nice looking triple dispenser.

So, that's my long story - sorry for all the words!

Gordon
 

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