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Here is another great film from archive.org
The "plot" is how to get your husband to buy you a NEW house so you can have your DREAM kitchen!
You'll see appliances from Caloric and Whirlpool and a Ruud water heater with TWO tanks at TWO temperatures!

Enjoy!

 
At 10:58 it has a two temperature gas hot water heater; one with two hot outputs of different temps.
 
<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">I have never seen a two temp gas or electric hot water heater.  I wonder if this was something that was actually made and sold?  I just can't imagine how a gas hot water heater, especially of this vintage would be able to do this. </span>

<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">I also like the incinerator.  I wonder if there are any left in use?</span>

<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">Brent</span>
 
Found this on the internet about the Ruud-Monel Duo Temp!  Interesting!

 

 

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Curious...

<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">Did anyone have any experience with the home incinerators?  I think they are so interesting.</span>

<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">When did they stop making them for consumer use?  Were they very popular?</span>

<span style="font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: medium;">Brent</span>
 
I would love that water heater. I wonder if there were two outlet feeds - one for the water at 180F (150-160F demand output) and the lower temp was achieved by tempering it with cold water and a thermostatic valve.

Incinerators were pretty common in homes from this era. I've seen many at estate sales, still in the basement. They are prohibited by city ordinances now and most have been disconnected from the gas service and chimney now. I never knew anyone who had one in use, my grandparents and other relatives had a burn-barrel in their small-town back yards but those were never legal in the city when I was young.
 
Incinerators

We had a gas incinerator installed in 72 in a home in cleveland. Since then, however, whenever I have seen one it is disconnected entirely, just not always removed from the basement since it weighs so damn much. Every realtor I know says get rid of them before a home inspection, illegal in most urban localities.

I'd love to know how that 2 temp tank works too. Maybe a hottest draw off at the top, then a medium tap from halfway down the side? Any other guesses?
 
Ruud was very good.....

Here is their 1914 Tankless Heater.  200,000 btu's.  Burners kicked in like the Tankless today. 

Check out that gas line!  Wow!

 

 

 

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Ruud I grew up with....

Ours was Monel. 

 

Look how the water "tank" suspends in the cabinet.  There is not flue going through the tank.  The burner actually heats the whole unit. 

My mom loved this tank.  It was quit fast on recovery.  It was in a unheated laundry room.  When it was on the outer cabinet gave off heat.  You could touch it, but it warmed it's surroundings.

Brent 

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The Dual temp water heater is nice-never heard of that until now.since its gas would be expensive to run in my area-the natural gas prices are high here.an electric model would be cheaper to run in my neighborhood.Gas incinerators went out because of pollution laws,fire hazards,and the development of hydraulic high compaction trash trucks.Garbage trucks of that era had mechanical chain or screw compactors-run from the trucks transmission.The Hydraulic compaction systems gave better releibility,and higher compaction forces.The Hydraulic compaction bodies simply used a hydraulic pump run by the trucks PTO instead of the complex mechanical compaction mechanism.also another thing that killed the home trash burners-increased use of plastic and glass product packages.and cans.the residentual incinerators were good when most of the waste was paper.
 
Clean Air Act

Helped kill off incinerators as did the Clean Water Act clamp down on dumping garbage into waterways.

Growing up remember many large buildings/complexes had incinerators, you can still find the chute with doors on each floor. However those things either terminate into a compactor or a bin that has to be emptied.

Many urban, well at least those in NYC feel the rodent problem started growing once buildings stopped burning garbage. Now it sits for one or two days (hopefully), inside the building waiting for collection.

Dual Setting Hot Water Heater:

Always wondered how homes coped with 180F water coming out of the taps. I mean I like a good hot shower as much as the next person, but there are limits. Especially with children and or the elderly in the house.

Would *LOVE* to know more about those Rudd water heaters.

Monel water heaters are in high demand, by scrappers! *LOL* That is if the plumbers installing the new unit and charged with disconnecting the old don't make off with it. *LOL* Happy for some many young plumbers don't know what is before them.
 
180F water would scald you-would think with that water heater system only the high temp water would go only to the washer and dishwasher.the lower temp water would go to the sinks and bathroom.
one apartment building I used to live in(Wash DC area)had a Morse Bolger incinerator in the basement trash room-the incinerator was removed and the trash chute emptied into a dumpster.The transmitter site I work at now(Govt facility)also used to have a Morse Bolger incinerator-was used until the early 90's,then replaced with commercial trash pickup-dumpster.
In one old appliance repair manual I have they show an electric version of that trash incinerator shown in the video-it has an elecric element connected to a timer instead of the gas burner.the element ran long enough to ignite the trash put into the units hopper-than shuts off.
 
COST OF OPERATING A GAS WATER HEATER

Hi Rex what are you paying for a therm of natural gas and a kilowatt of electricity in your area? If you supply this information it is easy to figure out the cost difference of operating a gas vs electric water heater in your town. I would be very surprised if the electric model is less expensive to run, the day that gas is that expensive you wouldn't use gas for anything as even electric resistance heat would be cheaper than gas heating. 
 
Poor Marsha Hunt. After a promising beginning at MGM she was a victim of the HUAC blacklist and reduced to making industrial films like this. Interesting to see Darren McGavin so young and at least they shaved his chest instead of that repulsive shag carpet he usually had in t.v. roles.
 
Gas versus Electric hot water heaters

RE "The Dual temp water heater is nice-never heard of that until now.since its gas would be expensive to run in my area-the natural gas prices are high here.an electric model would be cheaper to run in my neighborhood"

Here on the Miss Coast it costs about 3 times more to heat water with electricity than using gas. It was like that too when I lived up north and west too.

Thus if one is using electric water heaters and using a lot of water; one really has a big cash flow.

Ie if my HOME gas bill for my 40 gallon heaters usage for 1 month is say 25 dollars; if I switch to electric and shut off the gas service I will pay about 75 dollars more in my electric bill; ie 50 dollars more per month; 600 dollars per year.

Here I have at my business a giant commercial fast recovery 85 Gallon Gas hot water heater that is now turned off. Its input BTUH is 250,000; 1/4 Million. Its minimum "recovery" is 210 gallons per hour. It was used with an old wash off machine that was scrapped in 1995. TODAY my only reason to have hot water is one dinky bathroom sink; thus I have a free 12 gallon electric on a timer as a sort of point of use set up, its measured KWHR cost is about 35 dollars per year. With the old giant gas water heater the hot water has to travel about 110 feet in a big 1 " line to just get one drop of hot water. Its added cost to the gas bill was about 10 dollars per month; ie about 120 per year. In this weird example I am saving by using electric.

I wager there is about no place in the usa where using an electric 40 gallon hot water heater saves one money versus a gas one.
 
Burning trash was once required in some places

When I lived in Southern Indiana in the 1960's the trash guys would NOT pick up ones trash unless it was burned. It was considered good practice then to burn locally and reduce the volume that goes in land fills.

Everybody had 55 gallon steel drums behind their houses on a city alley.

Unless one's stuff was burned, they would skip your house.

Thus everybody burned all one's household trash in these 55 gallon steel drums, that had a few holes on the sides at the bottom. One loaded the drum so stuff would burn easier, more air-ey and fluffy burnable stuff on the bottom. When packed well one would get a roaring super hot fire and radically less bad stuff in the air.

One had to plan burning so it was done and cooled down before the trucks came. If you can was still hot you got skipped too.

A favorite dirty :) prank was to thrown in somebody else's fire some aerosol cans and they would explode and one got fly ash all over the place, often on somebody's clean clothes on a clothes line. Thus while burning one kept watch for pranksters.

In that era one had deposits on cola bottles, few used paper towels or disposable diapers, there was less junk mail, few ate out and had bags and cups from McDonalds. Folks also repaired things more too. Ones volume of waste was radically less than today. Some folks even did the WW2 thing of saving old steel cans and steel beer cans for the scrap too. Or one saved old glass bottles and brought them in as scrap too. There was not a recycling guy then. Radically less consumer items were plastics too.
 
I enjoyed seeing the features of the 1956-1957 Frigidaire!

Thank you very much for the video!

Too bad these kinds of features pretty much disappeared or were not quite the same in newer incarnations of these appliances...

Re: the "movable element" in the oven: Wasn't the Westinghouse "Speed Broiling" System the same thing?

-- Dave
 
The cost of Natural gas in my area-I am going by what two of my neighbors experienced while talking to them-They tried gas heat and went back to the electric becuase of the high cost of gas in my area-don't know why.Propane is very popular here-and cheaper.Just about all of the homes in my neighborhood have electric water heaters.so all of that discouraged me from hooking to the gas service.There is one neighbor who is a holdout-he uses a fuel oil furnace.My house used to have such a heater but was removed before I moved in-same with its underground tank.Now I have a Lennox heat pump which is pretty useless in the winter.Use portable heaters instead.The Lennox unit makes a great AC in the summer.
 
In the USA often in past eras one had GAS versus ELECTRIC wars!

Electric companies preached "all electric house" and gas folks preached to use gas. This was a common war for many decades in some places.

Electric is often preached as being 100 percent efficient for heating, which is sort of misleading. One does get 3414 BTUs of heat for each 1000 watts of electric power; but that is just the conversion factor!

Think about it this way; the chap at the power plant is shoveling coal, splitting atoms, or burning gas to heat water to steam. Then this steam drives a turbine, then drives a generator. The electric power goes through many transformers and miles of wires . Then you are using this electric power at you house to heat up water again. The loss of the thermodynamic cycle, loss of the transformers and wires is such that you get in your hot water heater only 1/3 the heat compared to if one tapped the turbine's steam at the power plant. It means that heating via an electric coil costs about 2 to 3 times more than via gas flame
 
The 1950's house is funky and right up my alley! Proof that the older appliances were built with integrity and durability! I do not live in the past, BUT I do appreciate quality and design!!!!!!!!
 
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