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What gets me is that our washing machines are being affected by all this green hysteria. I have seen top loading Kenmores which do not have a water level control. It is all pre-set in the washer's computer. Why can't I have the option to control the water level in my Whirlpool Duet? I pay my own water bill and I should have the right to adjust the water level myself.
And for the past few years, we have been hearing that top loaders may be discontinued due to their water usage. In the meantime, some of the top loaders hardly use any water such as the GE Infusor, Calypso, Cabrio, etc.
I feel that my rights have been infringed upon.

Ross
 
I feel that my rights have been infringed upon.

you best not look too hard cause that is NOT all that being infringed on.. Wait until you have to run your D/W 2 or 3 times to get a clean load. And your your good suit now has to be wetcleaned ( a fancy name for washing) cause our dear gov. says drycleaning fluid that we have used for years is bad.. Uncle was a drycleaner for 55 years and died from old age not dryclecleaning fluid poison. and know 100s others the same way. Oh dont forget to flush your toilet 2 or 3 times to get it to all clean out. All in the name of PISS GREEN!!!!!
 
this is because emotion, rather than rational thought, is do

The messages about Al Gore are true. He's an idiot. So is Prince Charles, the other Mr. Green, who flies by private jet all over the place.

And it is equally insane regarding dishwashers and washing machines and toilets.

I have a low water usage dishwasher (a whirlpool) that does just fine. 5 gal/load. My previous Asko which used FOUR, was not so good.

Panthera and I have many disagreements but he put it succinctly: he is a constitutionalist. I am a constitutionalist. THERE is our greatest agreement.

I find it ironic that the Democrats have been calling the Republicans the "party of NO!" Well, read our constitution - it does NOT grant rights, it does NOT give you privilege, it says 'The government may NOT !'

Powers are reserved for the PEOPLE, with some delegated to the states and (fewer) to the fedgov.

It is creeping statism that is killing us, not homophobia, pollution, or anything else. The USSR was an incredibly polluting country too. Yet their economy was a fraction of the size of the USA. Why? NO ACCOUNTABILITY.

I don't care what party is in power IF they stick to the US constitution, and for the most part, LEAVE US ALONE.

Otherwise, they are enemies of freedom. It's that simple.

While I am quite agnostic and find that for me, religion says nothing, I am always appreciative of John 8:32: "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." (KJV).

Hunter
 
Ah, yes - a free thinker, Hunter and Sudsman

Hunter, if even 10% of the tea-party was composed of people like you, I should be very content. Ten free-thinkers to 90 sheeple is a very good balance.

Alas, I fear, it is rather 1% free-thinker, 25% racist, 74% furious old white men who grew up thinking it was their world and got dumped on by the Democrats from the 1970's on...and have only just now finally figured out that they are merely patsies for the Republicans.

The Constitution, from the perspective of those of us who wish to restore civil rights is there for one purpose: To limit government rights over the people.

From the perspective of the religious conservatives (who, it can not be argued, have taken over the Republican party and who, sadly, form a large part of the tea-party intelligentisia (if one may speak in such terms of Palin and cohort) the purpose of the Constitution is to limit the rights of those people whom they dislike.

I think, by now, it's clear to everyone who can read that I'm an Eisenhower Republican, which, in today's world means either a Democrat or a teaparty-er.

My problem with libertarians is that they have too many naive concepts of personal responsibility solving problems which are endemic to the world of 2010. This is no longer an agrarian society and no amount of wishing will make the competition on the world market or dependency on energy from our enemies go away.
Telling me that they don't support gay marriage because the government should be out of the marriage business entirely...while not even entertaining a change in the laws to make civil marriage for all possible...is simply another way of saying "vote for us, but we still won't restore YOUR rights as gays...we just think you're too dumb to notice".

I don't mind saving water and it seems silly to me to waste energy. I do, very much, resent toilets which must be flushed three times to barely achieve what one yank of the handle did perfectly 30 years ago.

Ditto washers that sprinkle the clothes with a bit of phosphate-free cleaning agent (water is almost too big a word for it), swish them left, swish them right and pronounce them clean.

I don't object to using time to substitute for water in a dishwasher as long as there's enough water to rinse thoroughly. Never did understand the need for 20 minute programs in my private house...but I will not give up a sanitisation rinse.
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various things.

Regarding the tea partiers, I wouldn't believe what I read in the mainstream media. I know a few of them and find them intelligent articulate people who are neither racist nor particularly bitter -- they DO feel that the nation is being brought to ruin, and with good reason.

I find it truly tragic that the Republican party has been taken over by lunatics. Oh wait, I feel the same way about the Democrat party. Because they HAVE.

I call myself a libertarian but I am not a member of the party. Too many libertarians are engineer types who don't believe that the world that exists, actually exists. If that makes sense. Take the issue of gay marriage - as much as I would like civil unions for everyone and 'marriage' is something that happens in your church only, reality is somewhat different. I do not, cannot, understand how two people who wish to declare their love for each other before their community, and have protection of assets and each other, should be limited by something as irrelevant as their genders.

My wife and I will never have children. Yet we are married. So you cannot claim that marriage is only for protection of children.

Back to libertarianism momentarily: I do not believe that libertarians don't believe that you can't have things like a concerted effort to get off of foreign energy. What I believe we actually NEED is government INCENTIVE in the form of R&D tax credits and business willing to do the research. Right now, the feds fund most research. But it is often poorly directed. Yes, I know basic research pays off - and I support it - but this is applied research, which used to be the arena of private industry.

I use high temperature washes and sanitizing rinses on my dishwasher. <Shrug> the amount of water that needs to be heated is small enough that I don't find it a waste, and the greater cleanliness is better.

I see little point in wasting anything. Why? It's the equivalent of taking money and flushing it down the toilet (one of the 4 gallons/flush ones).
 
If the shoe fits........

Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration. Those with narcissistic personality disorder believe that they're superior to others and have little regard for other people's feelings. But behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways, limiting their ability to function in relationships and in other areas of their life, such as work or school.

When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may have a sense of entitlement. And when you don't receive the special treatment to which you feel entitled, you may become very impatient or angry, and go on the attack. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — the best car, athletic club, medical care, multiple residences, or social circles, for instance.

We are a smart group. Let's read between the lines without naming names.

Rick- you are pretty and we know it dear.

Sudsman, you have a short memory. Defending the offender?!? .. Surely, you can't use age as an excuse..

Sweet Dreams =)

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Hi Ross~

I will be in Tucson next month. Would love to get together.

You know I have great respect for ya, but I must disagree with your opinions on global warming. I believe climate change is a very true and present danger to the earth. Science confirms it,climatic anomalies, and ice cap melting are all appearing on schedule with predictions. I do think there is some hysteria involved, but we cannot ignore the obvious.

We all need to do our little part in reducing our carbon footprint. Just my 2 cents...=)

I'll do anything else they ask, just let me have my phosphates!!!
 
Stop.

Please, Shane, stop attacking other people here. Comments like this are inexcusable.:
Sudsman, you have a short memory. Defending the offender?!? .. Surely, you can't use age as an excuse..
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You own Lee an apology. Robert, too, actually.
 
Sudsman, you have a short memory. Defending the offender?!?

I feel so too. I dont have to defend ANYONE and if I so choose what is it to you anyway. Beacuse I like to see both sides of a issue before I decide on anything. The only offender I can see here is YOU trying to tell people what they should or should not do. Just beacuse you do not agree does NOT give you the right to attempt to censor others. It will be a cold one in hell before ANYONE EVER tells me what I will or will not do! ESP you!
Sometimes I may not agree with what KEVEN says but that DOES NOT MAKE HIM OR ANYONE ELSE right or wrong. Just different point of views.. There CAN be several soultions to many different problems why rule out the fact that you are not the only one with a answer. And LEARN from others, See now I have learned more about you! As far as my age is concerned that comment borders on age discrimination and I am FAR from the eldest here [this post was last edited: 5/14/2010-03:49]
 

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