Once again,
the parts list:
http://www.whirlpool.com/digitalassets/MLPDF/Repair Part List - W10725797.pdf
the parts list:
http://www.whirlpool.com/digitalassets/MLPDF/Repair Part List - W10725797.pdf
All New Whirlpool Cabrio
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murando531
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Oops, sorry haha. I had forgotten that you had linked the parts diagram before.
I noticed looking closer that there is now a "clutch assembly" and a gearbox of sorts. I wonder if they finally realized that floating that basket took way too much water, and half of it wasn't even in the tub with the clothes.
I noticed looking closer that there is now a "clutch assembly" and a gearbox of sorts. I wonder if they finally realized that floating that basket took way too much water, and half of it wasn't even in the tub with the clothes.
mrb627
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Cherry Metalic?
Now there is a color I wanna see!
Malcolm
Now there is a color I wanna see!
Malcolm
whirlcool
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That vid of the new washer with the water glass on top is making the same sound our 1993 Whirlpool TL machine makes when it is finishing the neutral drain. I knew I've heard that sound before.
These are pretty machines. I love the controls!
mrb627
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Local Lowes
I went into a different Lowes this morning after a doctor's appointment. This Cabrio pair were on sale at 799 each. But next to the UBER Samsung, these look puny.
Malcolm
I went into a different Lowes this morning after a doctor's appointment. This Cabrio pair were on sale at 799 each. But next to the UBER Samsung, these look puny.
Malcolm
mrb627
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Video
If this is Whirlpool's new flagship, then they are dead to me!
Malcolm
If this is Whirlpool's new flagship, then they are dead to me!
Malcolm
I apparently didn't notice a loud noise. At what timeframe did it occur?
This sounds indeed strange. A usual IDD sound, but way louder and kind of echo-ish.
Though I somehow think it might be related to the room this was set up in. I mean, the noise sounds rather like empty room for me. With a solid floor in a big room with only the set in it, it might be just an acustic trick. I mean, even the water entering the machine sounds quite loud, IMHO. Like a shower, almost...
Though I somehow think it might be related to the room this was set up in. I mean, the noise sounds rather like empty room for me. With a solid floor in a big room with only the set in it, it might be just an acustic trick. I mean, even the water entering the machine sounds quite loud, IMHO. Like a shower, almost...
That's the sound I hear on all the vidoes of this drive system. Maybe the drain oan amplifies the noise level, don't know.
mrb627
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Well...
when Whirlpool is marketing these machines as so quiet you can wash while you baby sleeps. I say hogwash!
Malcolm
when Whirlpool is marketing these machines as so quiet you can wash while you baby sleeps. I say hogwash!
Malcolm
brisnat81
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That is what the rest of the worlds Top loader machines have sounded like since the late 80's.
I wasn't hearing anything out of the ordinary.
I wasn't hearing anything out of the ordinary.
There is noise and then there is noise...
Perhaps you better buy the newest model. The Whirlpool Caribo!
mrb627
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Childhood Joy
You have to appreciate the enthusiasm of these two brothers. Sad that these machines are as noisy as they are when the comparable Korean offerings are much quieter.
You have to appreciate the enthusiasm of these two brothers. Sad that these machines are as noisy as they are when the comparable Korean offerings are much quieter.
murando531
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That is most certainly not the direct drive inverter motor in that video. That sounds exactly like the VMW (or VWM? I always confuse them) motor and belt-drive system. Either that or they have completely botched up F&P's SmartDrive system. I guess I'm glad now to at least have the Bravos/Cabrio before they phase it out in place of this "new" system. I love the sound of the motor in this machine. Sounds just like the video that foraloysius posted above, albeit much quieter with the insulation underneath and the lid closed.
F&P has done several engineering and control revisions on SmartDrive that resulted in different operational sounds. My IWL12 may exhibit a smooth rrrrrr-rrrrrr-rrrrrr on some agitation profiles and a squeely rrsqqrrr-rrsqqrrr-rrsqqrrr or sqqqqrr-sqqqqrr-sqqqqrr sound on others, all on the same machine. Is Whirlpool required to follow F&P's revisions or can they make their own customizations?
The new machine does NOT have the Fisher Paykel drive system in it. It DOES have a direct drive BPM motor with a planetary drive.
Well, it is all up to taste...
... but personally, I'd rather stay with plain white.
... but personally, I'd rather stay with plain white.
those machine are loud for some reason....I have a belt drive version....and there is some noise, but not like that....mine does have this very thick insulation covering the bottom of the machine.....
for many machines, like in a kitchen, I slid a piece of carpet or foam padding under both the washer and dryer, it greatly reduced that echo effect...
as for the new Platinum Whirlpools, basically these are "Machines for Dummy's"....you have to select "What to wash" and "How to Wash"....
the best review I seen was one lady complained it poured bleach all over a colored load.....WOW, are we the Jetson's...imagine that, a machine that lift that bottle of bleach up and pours it over your laundry....must have been one pissed off machine....I asked her to see a video of the machine doing that....because it could no way in the world be her fault!....she would make a fortune if it could load and unload itself too.....IDIOTS!
for many machines, like in a kitchen, I slid a piece of carpet or foam padding under both the washer and dryer, it greatly reduced that echo effect...
as for the new Platinum Whirlpools, basically these are "Machines for Dummy's"....you have to select "What to wash" and "How to Wash"....
the best review I seen was one lady complained it poured bleach all over a colored load.....WOW, are we the Jetson's...imagine that, a machine that lift that bottle of bleach up and pours it over your laundry....must have been one pissed off machine....I asked her to see a video of the machine doing that....because it could no way in the world be her fault!....she would make a fortune if it could load and unload itself too.....IDIOTS!
murando531
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Our Lowe's finally has this set on the floor. In person it's alot less impressive. It seems to have a huge capacity, but just as my Bravos is large, I know that the water level will be only about 20% of that tub at most. I was disappointed at the build quality of the lid on the washer and also the dryer door. Both have that squeaky plastic sound when opened and closed. I wonder if the see through material is acrylic instead of glass, because it doesn't feel heavy or solid at all. The dryer door actually bends and wobbles when you try to close it. I hate the dispenser drawer as well. Seems like more trouble than the built in dispensers around the opening, not to mention how flimsy the drawer is.
Apparently the washer was in its "agitate" mode when shut down and boxed up, and I could tell it's a similar drive system to what LG, and by extension, Samsung, have been using in their impeller style washers for a while. I turned the basket and the impeller would rotate at a slower but set rate, just as the LG will. I reached down and manually turned the impeller and you could hear and feel the gears that are now in place. I wonder why they decided that the Cabrio now needs a gearbox? And why does this machine sound so loud in comparison to the F&P drive version if it's supposed to be the TOL right now?
Apparently the washer was in its "agitate" mode when shut down and boxed up, and I could tell it's a similar drive system to what LG, and by extension, Samsung, have been using in their impeller style washers for a while. I turned the basket and the impeller would rotate at a slower but set rate, just as the LG will. I reached down and manually turned the impeller and you could hear and feel the gears that are now in place. I wonder why they decided that the Cabrio now needs a gearbox? And why does this machine sound so loud in comparison to the F&P drive version if it's supposed to be the TOL right now?
mrb627
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Echoing My Findings...
Once I saw this pair on the floor at my local Lowes, I was much less enthusiastic about them. Poor build quality is "in your face" obvious. Almost makes me angry that this is what Whirlpool has been reduced to...
Malcolm
Once I saw this pair on the floor at my local Lowes, I was much less enthusiastic about them. Poor build quality is "in your face" obvious. Almost makes me angry that this is what Whirlpool has been reduced to...
Malcolm
Seems as if Whirlpool might use this as the new washer platform - now there are models with a dial as well.
murando531
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Like the Cabrio, this looks really nice in the pictures but I'm sure it looks and feels like junk in real life. I can already hear the plasticky squeaking from that lid just from seeing the photos!!
Kinda makes me glad I got a high-end Bravos before the redesign. Despite some of the things I find annoying about the machine, it does have a very solid construction, at least in all the parts that are interactive with the user, and it has a nice clean but robust look to it. Overall I do like my washer a lot.
Kinda makes me glad I got a high-end Bravos before the redesign. Despite some of the things I find annoying about the machine, it does have a very solid construction, at least in all the parts that are interactive with the user, and it has a nice clean but robust look to it. Overall I do like my washer a lot.
pierreandreply4
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when i see a washer dryer like the new whirlpool and maytag
when i see the new whirlpool and maytag line i think so far the new speed queen huebsch 2015 are the much better choice
when i see the new whirlpool and maytag line i think so far the new speed queen huebsch 2015 are the much better choice
murando531
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I'm not very impressed. This is exactly why I want to get the Bravos XL fixed properly or more preferably replaced. I love its procedure for washing. I love the built in dispensers, because that drawer looks flimsy, in addition to it just dumping down straight onto the clothes. And I'm confused as to why there isn't much time spent on rotating the basket while recirculating the water. I like the way the Oasis machines handle that much better, with slow rotation and spray, then a quick spin to pull the water and detergent through, repeated several times over the course of 20+ minutes. I think that's why my machine cleans so well.
And the agitation sounds just like the agitator washer that I have. I guess because the gear box is nearly the same.
And the agitation sounds just like the agitator washer that I have. I guess because the gear box is nearly the same.
"Doing a load on Bulky-Sheets/Normal"
extmaxspin
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videos in reply #86
OK, I've never owned this style machine, and I've got to say I've never been impressed by the appearance of that style of operation. But after watching these videos, and understanding what I was supposed to be seeing (the "bloom" from the center), I'm mildly impressed...
My question is, why are all the videos I've seen of these machines in operation made with what I'd consider a small load at best? If I'm going to run a whites load that takes over two hours to finish, that machine is going to be full! I understand that when things are wet, they've settled and are packed on the bottom. I see that same thing in my FL machine too. But show me a load that starts with 15-20 bath towels, when they're dry, they fill the capacity of the machine. What's the turnover with that kind of load? Show me a load of towels like that "blooming" and I'll maybe consider one of these some day...
OK, I've never owned this style machine, and I've got to say I've never been impressed by the appearance of that style of operation. But after watching these videos, and understanding what I was supposed to be seeing (the "bloom" from the center), I'm mildly impressed...
My question is, why are all the videos I've seen of these machines in operation made with what I'd consider a small load at best? If I'm going to run a whites load that takes over two hours to finish, that machine is going to be full! I understand that when things are wet, they've settled and are packed on the bottom. I see that same thing in my FL machine too. But show me a load that starts with 15-20 bath towels, when they're dry, they fill the capacity of the machine. What's the turnover with that kind of load? Show me a load of towels like that "blooming" and I'll maybe consider one of these some day...
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