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Peter
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toploader55
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Never Heard of these.
AMC ... American Motors Corp. ? But wasn't Kelvinator AMC ?
Never Heard of these.
AMC ... American Motors Corp. ? But wasn't Kelvinator AMC ?
when department stores were more dominant sellers of everything (i.e. before big boxes and proliferation of malls), they had private labeled appliances in an effort to compete with Sears/Wards. AMC (Aimcee Wholesale) was the one set up by all these department stores. You'll see that lots were missing...none of the Macy's, or May Department Stores, or Allied stores were here. They each had separate yet similar appliance programs....Macy's brand was Supremacy, May's was Duracrest, and Allied was Ambassador. (They cooperated on lots of different product lines...procurement, if not branding (140 thread count muslin sheets, for instance...no need for each of the stores to procure individually). Only connection between AMC and American Motors was perhaps that American Motors/Kelvinator was a supplier of certain product lines (probably just refrigeration). AMC or the others would go to a "dominant" producer of whatever line so as to get the best price/feature combination.
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Haha. If it was AMC motor company, I bet none of the washers would run. 
There is a guy the street just east of us with a 1970s AMC hatchback thingamauglomobile. BROWN of all colors. Gotta love the 70s! Never seen that car move from its spot. Probably doesn't run. He has a huge newer F350 ford, but keeps that thing! ha.
That machine does have a very pleasing panel to it though. Simple!
There is a guy the street just east of us with a 1970s AMC hatchback thingamauglomobile. BROWN of all colors. Gotta love the 70s! Never seen that car move from its spot. Probably doesn't run. He has a huge newer F350 ford, but keeps that thing! ha.
That machine does have a very pleasing panel to it though. Simple!
whirlcool
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I liked the Pacer. I am sure all that glass made it like a greenhouse in the summertime. You'd definitely get one with a/c!
I've always thought AMC cars were some of the ugliest objects I've ever seen.
As for the washer and dryer pictured above, I'm thinking they could be Norge. I'd say this is from around 1956. Remember this brand being sold at Shillito's. The appliance department was in their garage annex diagonally across from the main downtown store.
As for the washer and dryer pictured above, I'm thinking they could be Norge. I'd say this is from around 1956. Remember this brand being sold at Shillito's. The appliance department was in their garage annex diagonally across from the main downtown store.
This ad must predate 1961 as that was the year Sanger Brothers and Harris department stores in Dallas merged to become Sanger-Harris. I wonder how long AMC laundry equipment was produced?
BTW, if you think the Matador pictured above is too plain, find a pic of the TOL Matador Barcelona. It had the same body pressings but with a padded vinyl top complete with opera windows . . .
BTW, if you think the Matador pictured above is too plain, find a pic of the TOL Matador Barcelona. It had the same body pressings but with a padded vinyl top complete with opera windows . . .
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Ehh the car looks quite a bit newer and uglier than both of those! lol Maybe like a late 70s, or 80 model.
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Interesting that Sanger's, Shillito's, Rike's, Lazarus, Burdine's, Boston Store, Rich's and Abraham and Straus, Bullock's and Foley's were all Federated Stores. Of course, at that time (mid 50's) perhaps not all were Federated, but most were and in fact Lazarus, Shillito's and Abraham & Straus were three of the founding stores of Federated (I believe Filene's in Boston was another, but was not mentioned in this ad),
The other thing I thought interesting was that some of the Associated Dry Goods Stores (Joseph Horne and Stix, Baer and Fuller) were listed. Since Associated was really the "white glove" group of retailing, I am surprised they carried appliances since they generally didn't carry things like housewares, kitchen, etc... (at least in the 80') . Other Associated stores like Lord & Taylor, JW Robinson, Goldwater's, Powers Dry Goods, Hahne's, The Denver Dry Goods Company, H&S Pogue, L.S. Ayres, Stewart Dry Goods, Sibley, Lindsay and Curr were always the fashion leaders in their respective geographic markets - sadly all gone now, victims of corporate acquisition, homogenization and consolidation. Read that as "Macy's".
I recall that as a child it was the "A&S annex" sold major appliances. It wasn't part of the main store, but was across the side street. It was always a treat to go over there - for me, better than the 8th floor toy department!!!!
The other thing I thought interesting was that some of the Associated Dry Goods Stores (Joseph Horne and Stix, Baer and Fuller) were listed. Since Associated was really the "white glove" group of retailing, I am surprised they carried appliances since they generally didn't carry things like housewares, kitchen, etc... (at least in the 80') . Other Associated stores like Lord & Taylor, JW Robinson, Goldwater's, Powers Dry Goods, Hahne's, The Denver Dry Goods Company, H&S Pogue, L.S. Ayres, Stewart Dry Goods, Sibley, Lindsay and Curr were always the fashion leaders in their respective geographic markets - sadly all gone now, victims of corporate acquisition, homogenization and consolidation. Read that as "Macy's".
I recall that as a child it was the "A&S annex" sold major appliances. It wasn't part of the main store, but was across the side street. It was always a treat to go over there - for me, better than the 8th floor toy department!!!!
Peter, Thought you were getting into the soaps now "AMC", I myself have never heard of this brand until I read this post. See you soon..
toploader55
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Pacer
I Loved that Car. The Gremlin was Strange looking too.
But the Matador... Well, that took First Place as one of the if not the Ugliest Cars on the Road !
I Loved that Car. The Gremlin was Strange looking too.
But the Matador... Well, that took First Place as one of the if not the Ugliest Cars on the Road !
I, too, like the Pacer
It is an interesting design with those big windows and I think it's cute. It reminds me of a bug, has that 1970s futuristic look about it and could be seen as a harbinger of things to come. Regardless of personal tastes, the design is far from boring. I don't mind the Matador either, there are a few of them around and they are usually the same color as seen in the above picture, which tend to appear when American car enthusiasts have their annual get-together.
There is this couple in the self-care section of the retirement village where I work. They purchased their Rambler Ambassador new in 1963, it is still going strong and they are in no hurry to part with it.
It is an interesting design with those big windows and I think it's cute. It reminds me of a bug, has that 1970s futuristic look about it and could be seen as a harbinger of things to come. Regardless of personal tastes, the design is far from boring. I don't mind the Matador either, there are a few of them around and they are usually the same color as seen in the above picture, which tend to appear when American car enthusiasts have their annual get-together.
There is this couple in the self-care section of the retirement village where I work. They purchased their Rambler Ambassador new in 1963, it is still going strong and they are in no hurry to part with it.
yogitunes
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We were an AMC family for cars...Mainly because my father learned to work on Jeeps in the war...and later became a transmission specialist/teacher for AMC...granted not some of their best designs....but according to my father, mechanically, some of the simplest, easy to service, no-nonsense mechanicals around.....even today, the 258 straight six engine is still used in the Jeeps, now produced by Chrysler, fuel injection kicked these motors up a notch.....
my first car was a 1972 Javelin Pierre Cardin, then onto 1977 Hornet AMX, the best I thought was the EAGLEs, I got a 1982 Eagle SX/4 for graduation, and just sold that in 2003 with 150,000miles on it, like vintage machines, parts were getting scarce, I also had 2 Eagle wagons and the Eagle Talon AWD Turbo....Now its a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited...the baseline mechanics has not changed, although updated, the V8 in my Cherokee is not much different than the one in my Javelin....
maybe we need a vintage car thread of our first cars from our youth...showing our age?....oh, who cares, we had four wheels to get around, and thats all that mattered, later on we souped them up with Airshocks, fancy rims, wide tires, squealing wheels and cruising the avenue...they were great times
my first car was a 1972 Javelin Pierre Cardin, then onto 1977 Hornet AMX, the best I thought was the EAGLEs, I got a 1982 Eagle SX/4 for graduation, and just sold that in 2003 with 150,000miles on it, like vintage machines, parts were getting scarce, I also had 2 Eagle wagons and the Eagle Talon AWD Turbo....Now its a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited...the baseline mechanics has not changed, although updated, the V8 in my Cherokee is not much different than the one in my Javelin....
maybe we need a vintage car thread of our first cars from our youth...showing our age?....oh, who cares, we had four wheels to get around, and thats all that mattered, later on we souped them up with Airshocks, fancy rims, wide tires, squealing wheels and cruising the avenue...they were great times
macboy91si
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The Pacer
I also for one have a weekness for the Pacer and similar cars from the era. I also am a big Chevette fan. I always thought the Pacer was a neat car in many ways. As mentioned before it is definately not a boring car. With a good set of wide tires, they handle very nice with their wide stance. The inside of these cars are huge as the car is so wide and it's just a pleasant car to drive. The passenger door is longer than the drivers door to encourage passengers in the back seat to porperly exit and enter the car from curbside rather than the street.
The mecahnics of this car are much more interesting and fun though. This car was originally designed for a rotary engine. When plans fell through for that, AMC "modded" the car to fit the conventional inline 6 cylinder engine in the engine bay. This is part of what gives the Pacer it's somewhat disproportionate appearance. The car came standard with a 232ci inline 6 which made it rather responsive over some of it's mainly 4-cylinder competition. The 258 and the 304 were also offered as an upgrade. I have seen several of these cars with an AMC 360 V8 dumped into them, which would make quite a bang, but they still drive like a much larger car, I think they are very stable cars.
The model shown above is very optioned, vinyl roof and rear wipers were fairly rare as were the sport wheels which I believe in this case are stock.
-Tim
I also for one have a weekness for the Pacer and similar cars from the era. I also am a big Chevette fan. I always thought the Pacer was a neat car in many ways. As mentioned before it is definately not a boring car. With a good set of wide tires, they handle very nice with their wide stance. The inside of these cars are huge as the car is so wide and it's just a pleasant car to drive. The passenger door is longer than the drivers door to encourage passengers in the back seat to porperly exit and enter the car from curbside rather than the street.
The mecahnics of this car are much more interesting and fun though. This car was originally designed for a rotary engine. When plans fell through for that, AMC "modded" the car to fit the conventional inline 6 cylinder engine in the engine bay. This is part of what gives the Pacer it's somewhat disproportionate appearance. The car came standard with a 232ci inline 6 which made it rather responsive over some of it's mainly 4-cylinder competition. The 258 and the 304 were also offered as an upgrade. I have seen several of these cars with an AMC 360 V8 dumped into them, which would make quite a bang, but they still drive like a much larger car, I think they are very stable cars.
The model shown above is very optioned, vinyl roof and rear wipers were fairly rare as were the sport wheels which I believe in this case are stock.
-Tim
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AMC cars were used in the James Bond movie, "The Man With the Golden Gun". I loved the scene where the AMC Matador is converted into a plane in the barn. And of course, the car chase scene, with Sheriff JW Pepper riding shotgun.
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AMC
I have seen several rusted thru the wall air conditioners in Brooklyn with an "AMC" emblem on the outer case, I always assumed it was American Motors Corporation. It makes sense now from the ad as it states AMC products were sold at Abraham & Strauss in Brooklyn.
I have seen several rusted thru the wall air conditioners in Brooklyn with an "AMC" emblem on the outer case, I always assumed it was American Motors Corporation. It makes sense now from the ad as it states AMC products were sold at Abraham & Strauss in Brooklyn.
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1st cars
I passed my test in the year ........................ in a green Triumph Herald with a manual gear box ( stick shift to all of you in the US) I changed the car the same day for a very flashy ford auto and very nearly killed myself. I think I have owned more cars than washing machines, DW, dryers and vacs put together.
I passed my test in the year ........................ in a green Triumph Herald with a manual gear box ( stick shift to all of you in the US) I changed the car the same day for a very flashy ford auto and very nearly killed myself. I think I have owned more cars than washing machines, DW, dryers and vacs put together.
appliguy
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The AMC appliances we are talking about here
WERE NOT made by American Motors Corp. The AMC in the beginning of this thread stood for AIMCEE WHOLESALE CORP. The automobile conglomerate that went by that name did not become known as AMC until around 1966 when they started dropping the Rambler name and putting AMC on their cars instead. They did it first with the Ambassador in I believe 1966 then the Rebel in 67 and the Rambler named died all together with the coming of the 1970 Hornet. From the time of the Nash and Hudson Merger in 1954 until the mid 60's, the company was known simply as American Motors. Their advertising in that period used the AM logo and in the late 50's their tag for all the ads in magazines and tv was "American Motors means more for Americans. During this time American Motors DID make appliances but they were made under the Kelvinator, ABC (Kelvinator bought Altorfer Bros. circa 1952 and produced appliances under that name until 1958), Leonard, and Duracrest names. AMC sold Kelvinator to WCI in 1968 because it needed an infusion of cash to try to save it's ailing car line........PAT COFFEY
WERE NOT made by American Motors Corp. The AMC in the beginning of this thread stood for AIMCEE WHOLESALE CORP. The automobile conglomerate that went by that name did not become known as AMC until around 1966 when they started dropping the Rambler name and putting AMC on their cars instead. They did it first with the Ambassador in I believe 1966 then the Rebel in 67 and the Rambler named died all together with the coming of the 1970 Hornet. From the time of the Nash and Hudson Merger in 1954 until the mid 60's, the company was known simply as American Motors. Their advertising in that period used the AM logo and in the late 50's their tag for all the ads in magazines and tv was "American Motors means more for Americans. During this time American Motors DID make appliances but they were made under the Kelvinator, ABC (Kelvinator bought Altorfer Bros. circa 1952 and produced appliances under that name until 1958), Leonard, and Duracrest names. AMC sold Kelvinator to WCI in 1968 because it needed an infusion of cash to try to save it's ailing car line........PAT COFFEY
It stood for Allied Merchandising Corp. and the products were sourced among various manufacturers. Supposedly, the salesmen in the major appliance dpeartments got bigger commissions for selling the stuff, but some, well maybe a lot, of it was crap. The stoves I saw were made by SunRay, I believe, and looked horrible next to a GE or even a Norge. They were the same stoves sold at Grants under the Bradford label. In the early 70s an elderly lady was telling us about her AMC stove where the bracket supporting the broil element fell because the oven liner rusted through where the screw was. The laundry line that I saw was made by Easy and in 63 or 64 was old design, ready to be redesigned. The dryer drum was galvanized and there were sharp corners on the lint screen although the diagonal air flow looked promising.
appliguy
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Thanks Tom
For setting me straight I was only going by what it said at the bottom of the ad in the first post in this thread......I guess AIMCE WHOLESALE was maybe their distribution arm then like REDISCO was for Kelvinator?????? Cna anyone confirm or deny that? PAT COFFEY
For setting me straight I was only going by what it said at the bottom of the ad in the first post in this thread......I guess AIMCE WHOLESALE was maybe their distribution arm then like REDISCO was for Kelvinator?????? Cna anyone confirm or deny that? PAT COFFEY
When we bought our house 24 years ago, it had an avocado AMC refrigerator in the kitchen. I think it was made by Gibson, it looked similar to their offerings of the time.
jamman_98
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I had a Pacer
I was in high school when this was taken. Yes I had hair back in 1978-79 when this was taken.
Joe
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I was in high school when this was taken. Yes I had hair back in 1978-79 when this was taken.
Joe
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Gibson also made the air conditioners for AMC. Neighbors had one. It cooled well. I have no idea how long it lasted; we moved and so did they.
Air conditioning is wonderful, but it sure changed neighborhoods. Houses were closed up in the Summer as well as the Winter. There was no more casual visiting through open doors or windows or while sitting on the porch. But oh, it feels so good to come in from the heat to that crisp, dry, chilled air. I don't care as an adult, but I remember the openness of the neighborhood when I was a child; where you could start talking to people before you went inside during warm weather without the formality of knocking on the door and being invited in. You walked up to the back door and the mother was generally in the kitchen and you asked if so-and-so could come out and play. She would check but, first, come in for something to drink. One mother mixed grape and lemon Koolaid for a delicious "mixed drink." I was happy for everyone who got air conditioning because it meant that they were as comfortable in the warm months and in the pollen seasons as we were (and it was another appliance to check out), but it profoundly and permanently altered a way of life.
Air conditioning is wonderful, but it sure changed neighborhoods. Houses were closed up in the Summer as well as the Winter. There was no more casual visiting through open doors or windows or while sitting on the porch. But oh, it feels so good to come in from the heat to that crisp, dry, chilled air. I don't care as an adult, but I remember the openness of the neighborhood when I was a child; where you could start talking to people before you went inside during warm weather without the formality of knocking on the door and being invited in. You walked up to the back door and the mother was generally in the kitchen and you asked if so-and-so could come out and play. She would check but, first, come in for something to drink. One mother mixed grape and lemon Koolaid for a delicious "mixed drink." I was happy for everyone who got air conditioning because it meant that they were as comfortable in the warm months and in the pollen seasons as we were (and it was another appliance to check out), but it profoundly and permanently altered a way of life.
My first car was a Pacer X (had the X option package)--it as a dark forrest green with metalic speckles in it and color-keyed sport wheels. Had great visibility and a great car to learn to drive in. Kept having major problems with the engine's black box--a common problem with them. It left me on the side of the road wayy too many times. One time even had to have it towed 115 miles back to the dealership in Houston. Finally couldn't trust the car any more, so I unloaded it for a Citation. Sould have know, my first two cars were model names of Edsels.
Getting back to the ad and Peter's question, the box of All is early mid 50s. Look at how wide the washer is, probably 30 inches. Easys were wide automatics, as wide or wider than Whirlpools back then. I would be willing to guess that these were Easys and hope that they were better quality than the AMC laundry appliances were in the 60s before the whole AMC concept bit the dust.
At Rich's in Atlanta, the customer was always right and they would take back almost anything. The appliance salesmen soon stopped pushing AMC because they knew the appliances were not going to hold up and eventually, there would be trouble. At Rich's, customers built friendships with sales people and if a customer was not satisfied, they went back to the person who sold them the item. Sales people always tried to make it right which, with most things, meant some sort of exchange to save the sale. For a major appliance sale, it meant arranging a pick up and a delivery, a credit and a sale probably at an equal or slightly higher price, the possible loss of commission and other hassles of dealing with the returned item through the warehouse, etc.
At Rich's in Atlanta, the customer was always right and they would take back almost anything. The appliance salesmen soon stopped pushing AMC because they knew the appliances were not going to hold up and eventually, there would be trouble. At Rich's, customers built friendships with sales people and if a customer was not satisfied, they went back to the person who sold them the item. Sales people always tried to make it right which, with most things, meant some sort of exchange to save the sale. For a major appliance sale, it meant arranging a pick up and a delivery, a credit and a sale probably at an equal or slightly higher price, the possible loss of commission and other hassles of dealing with the returned item through the warehouse, etc.
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Excuse me Sir, would you happen to have any grey poupon?
Schwing!
Terribly good movie.
Schwing!
Terribly good movie.
