Uh Oh!! The Harvest Gold Filter Flo is not spinning the water out of the Clothes anymore after only 30 some odd years of USE!! Im calling GE on this one! If Honda had made this it would have OBVIOUSLY lasted 200 Years or more! Go Figure!
American Made Junk!
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Im sure The High Speed Dryer will Appreciate the washer improvements! I know my electric company wont LOL . OK..OK I wont go on any longer But Please ..Try to support our amercian companies The job you save may be your Own!!
Im sure The High Speed Dryer will Appreciate the washer improvements! I know my electric company wont LOL . OK..OK I wont go on any longer But Please ..Try to support our amercian companies The job you save may be your Own!!
Well... Thats keeping it real, if you are living in Ohio!
Older items were built much better in first place, no matter where they came from. It is just a different world today. Would you want a new General Electric washer?
Today so many parts come from all over the world, and the parts may be assembled most anywhere to make most any item. I do not like all items being imported from China, because most are of substandard quality.
Now they are talking about taking a second look at N.A.F.T.A. Well.... that fine, however that agreement only covered North America anyway. The global trade is here to stay. How things are changed for the future will determine who is the next "superpower" of nations. If I purchase Cadillac instead of a Lexus, it still will not make much of a difference in jobs here in the US. (btw, I own a cadillac) Many of the parts that make up my Caddy were not even made in the US.
Nice Filter-Flo and great repair job! May it give you many more decades of trouble free service.
Older items were built much better in first place, no matter where they came from. It is just a different world today. Would you want a new General Electric washer?
Today so many parts come from all over the world, and the parts may be assembled most anywhere to make most any item. I do not like all items being imported from China, because most are of substandard quality.
Now they are talking about taking a second look at N.A.F.T.A. Well.... that fine, however that agreement only covered North America anyway. The global trade is here to stay. How things are changed for the future will determine who is the next "superpower" of nations. If I purchase Cadillac instead of a Lexus, it still will not make much of a difference in jobs here in the US. (btw, I own a cadillac) Many of the parts that make up my Caddy were not even made in the US.
Nice Filter-Flo and great repair job! May it give you many more decades of trouble free service.
American Made
Im not sure If id buy a GE washer or not but I'd definatley look in to a whirlpool! Unfortunatley American manufacturers have been FORCED into outsourcing Due to the Large amount of "cheaper" imported products A shame really.. I dont know what the long term fix is? Glad you drive a Caddy. Because at least I know some Fat Cat at General Motors is getting Rich! I have friends who say "Foreign products made american products better" Im sorry I dont buy it! Products made today are Throw away items Not made to be repaired just replaced! And I blame this entirely on Japaneese Made Products or China or Korea.. Nothing against those country or people its just time for people to stop dogging american made products and support their neighbors..Yes Ohio has been hit hard by NAFTA but I do think it can be fixed Its all up to the people!
Im not sure If id buy a GE washer or not but I'd definatley look in to a whirlpool! Unfortunatley American manufacturers have been FORCED into outsourcing Due to the Large amount of "cheaper" imported products A shame really.. I dont know what the long term fix is? Glad you drive a Caddy. Because at least I know some Fat Cat at General Motors is getting Rich! I have friends who say "Foreign products made american products better" Im sorry I dont buy it! Products made today are Throw away items Not made to be repaired just replaced! And I blame this entirely on Japaneese Made Products or China or Korea.. Nothing against those country or people its just time for people to stop dogging american made products and support their neighbors..Yes Ohio has been hit hard by NAFTA but I do think it can be fixed Its all up to the people!
"And I blame this entirely on Japaneese Made Products or China or Korea.. Nothing against those country or people its just time for people to stop dogging american made products and support their neighbors..Yes Ohio has been hit hard by NAFTA but I do think it can be fixed Its all up to the people! "
You can put part of the blame on the American people wanting their products to be inexpensive. They want to buy things that don't cost much, until it comes to their job. Then they want to make as much money, and benefits, as they can.
You can't have it both ways.
You can put part of the blame on the American people wanting their products to be inexpensive. They want to buy things that don't cost much, until it comes to their job. Then they want to make as much money, and benefits, as they can.
You can't have it both ways.
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Very entertaining post!
Glad you got your FilterFlo up and Flowing again!
Brent
Glad you got your FilterFlo up and Flowing again!
Brent
Totaly respect your opinion Timinator, and I absolutely love your Filter-Flo!, but there's a reason Honda's are known for not breaking down. It's not something that happens overnight. The Japanese simply make better and more reliable products. Not health insurance costs, not manufacturing costs, not labor costs, not retirment plans, none of that BS, but better products.
*lights match and runs*
*lights match and runs*
RUN RUN RUUUUUUUN!
Ummm Excuse me? Honda's Dont break down? Since when? And whats going to happen when all these people who are working at the Honda plant retire? How will they survive? And Goatfarmer I agree your right you cant have it both ways. Oh and one more thing can somebody please post a picture of a Japaneese washing machine from 1970? Im curious to see one.
Ummm Excuse me? Honda's Dont break down? Since when? And whats going to happen when all these people who are working at the Honda plant retire? How will they survive? And Goatfarmer I agree your right you cant have it both ways. Oh and one more thing can somebody please post a picture of a Japaneese washing machine from 1970? Im curious to see one.
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So Tim, what was the problem with the slo spin of the GE washer? Belt? Clutch? Both? Please tell! Either way, Im glad you fixed it! American parts on an American quality machine, repaired by American know how!
yes, they break down
But why do you see honda accords and toyota camry's with 200,000+ miles on the road with original trannies, engines, etc. when all my friend's pontiacs(GM) need new heads at 100,000 or a new tranny at 130,000, keep in mind this is just one small example, but I belive very relevant. The answer? R&D! For years, GM has concentrated on stock prices, give the money to the shareholdrs, while Toyota and Honda on average put more money into building better and better parts and products.
On the topic of what happens to the Honda plant people (another generalization). If they truly have it way worse, than I admit, I'm an iggnorant prick for not caring. I just want the best product. I'm a motor sports enthusiast, I'm interested in the best product possible. Subscribe to Car and Driver for god sake, and read about the differences in car performance. That's all I'm interested in, and if that's conceited, so be it.
But why do you see honda accords and toyota camry's with 200,000+ miles on the road with original trannies, engines, etc. when all my friend's pontiacs(GM) need new heads at 100,000 or a new tranny at 130,000, keep in mind this is just one small example, but I belive very relevant. The answer? R&D! For years, GM has concentrated on stock prices, give the money to the shareholdrs, while Toyota and Honda on average put more money into building better and better parts and products.
On the topic of what happens to the Honda plant people (another generalization). If they truly have it way worse, than I admit, I'm an iggnorant prick for not caring. I just want the best product. I'm a motor sports enthusiast, I'm interested in the best product possible. Subscribe to Car and Driver for god sake, and read about the differences in car performance. That's all I'm interested in, and if that's conceited, so be it.
Jimmy the Answer is..
I Believe it was a combination of 60% wore out belt and 40% clutch I just replaced the belt and the motor/clutch assembly (Remember I had a extra one) later on in the day I took the "old" clutch apart and the "shoes" were pretty worn out but still had some lining left on them The interesting thing is now that it has a two speed clutch in it it starts out agitating at the low speed then switches into "High" like my other filter flo's It didnt do that before thats why I think it allways made a louder "clunk" when the transmission locked up when it started to agitate. Obviously before it started out in High speed . Im Tempted to rig up a toggle switch on the back and hook up the two speed clutch lol but Im scared!!! You know..to wash those "Delicate" items! But I do have plenty of other filter-flo's I can do that with. Meanwhile The Harvest Gold pair remain my daily drivers..with over 30 years on em. Thanks so much for your help and advice and may we all have fun with our vintage machines!
I Believe it was a combination of 60% wore out belt and 40% clutch I just replaced the belt and the motor/clutch assembly (Remember I had a extra one) later on in the day I took the "old" clutch apart and the "shoes" were pretty worn out but still had some lining left on them The interesting thing is now that it has a two speed clutch in it it starts out agitating at the low speed then switches into "High" like my other filter flo's It didnt do that before thats why I think it allways made a louder "clunk" when the transmission locked up when it started to agitate. Obviously before it started out in High speed . Im Tempted to rig up a toggle switch on the back and hook up the two speed clutch lol but Im scared!!! You know..to wash those "Delicate" items! But I do have plenty of other filter-flo's I can do that with. Meanwhile The Harvest Gold pair remain my daily drivers..with over 30 years on em. Thanks so much for your help and advice and may we all have fun with our vintage machines!
Tuthill..
Your generalizing items into one catagory...All american cars do not need headgaskets and engines at 100,000 miles..as a mater of fact theres a 97 Honda Civic in my drive now that belongs to a freind of mine with 138,000 miles on it that needs a....you know what...Head gasket..The point im making is and im not going to continue to justfy what I say is true!
And were really getting away from washing machines in general.. after all thats what the group is about! I Wont comment on it further because your not going to change my mind and im not going to change yours! Im Still waiting to see a picture of ONE VINTAGE JAPANEESE WASHING MACHINE! Im curious what did they use 30 years ago? What happened to them?
Your generalizing items into one catagory...All american cars do not need headgaskets and engines at 100,000 miles..as a mater of fact theres a 97 Honda Civic in my drive now that belongs to a freind of mine with 138,000 miles on it that needs a....you know what...Head gasket..The point im making is and im not going to continue to justfy what I say is true!
And were really getting away from washing machines in general.. after all thats what the group is about! I Wont comment on it further because your not going to change my mind and im not going to change yours! Im Still waiting to see a picture of ONE VINTAGE JAPANEESE WASHING MACHINE! Im curious what did they use 30 years ago? What happened to them?
Haha, I don't know where the japanese washing machines are. I apologize about the off topic rant, it just happens I'm very opionated about that stuff, and when it cames to liking cars and dirtbikes I didn't believe I was the only one for 18 years!!!
Hi Tim, While I feel as though this topic should be in "Super" by now, I still have one last question for you.
When I stated that I owned a Cadillac rather than an "import" car, you made this statement:
"Glad you drive a Caddy. Because at least I know some Fat Cat at General Motors is getting Rich!"
With all due respect, I do not really understand the meaning of that statement, as Cadillac has always been an American built brand. Could you please explain?
When I stated that I owned a Cadillac rather than an "import" car, you made this statement:
"Glad you drive a Caddy. Because at least I know some Fat Cat at General Motors is getting Rich!"
With all due respect, I do not really understand the meaning of that statement, as Cadillac has always been an American built brand. Could you please explain?
Sure I'll explain
I meant that as a good thing! point being Id rather see the money stay in america! and not go back to the japaneese government to finance..I dunno who knows what! The"Fat Cat" Statement is borrowed by most people who buy import products and tell you how good they are and why you should by one to keep some American stock holder from making some money! and as far as the word FAT goes..well..that applies to me LOL Im Sorry If i offened anyone didnt mean too! And I really didnt want this post to go waaaaaaaaaaay off topic I just had a Fun Day Posting ! Hopefully somebody found some humour in all of this.
I meant that as a good thing! point being Id rather see the money stay in america! and not go back to the japaneese government to finance..I dunno who knows what! The"Fat Cat" Statement is borrowed by most people who buy import products and tell you how good they are and why you should by one to keep some American stock holder from making some money! and as far as the word FAT goes..well..that applies to me LOL Im Sorry If i offened anyone didnt mean too! And I really didnt want this post to go waaaaaaaaaaay off topic I just had a Fun Day Posting ! Hopefully somebody found some humour in all of this.
Cool Tim! I do understand now. I had not heard that "Fat Cat" slang being used that way before. It may be Ohio slang, because of all the factory jobs that have been lost there in the past few years.
I will be helping out, knocking on doors this fall in Paulding County Ohio for Clinton, or Obama. If you want to try to help your state, you could do the same. I have helped out in Ohio for the last few election cycles. People come to Ohio from all over the country (and Canada too) to help out on both sides. Ohio is a VERY important battleground state. I hope we can turn it BLUE this time around.
I will be helping out, knocking on doors this fall in Paulding County Ohio for Clinton, or Obama. If you want to try to help your state, you could do the same. I have helped out in Ohio for the last few election cycles. People come to Ohio from all over the country (and Canada too) to help out on both sides. Ohio is a VERY important battleground state. I hope we can turn it BLUE this time around.
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