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chrisbsuk

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Hi all,
hope you are all well.

You may remember just before Christmas I opened a thread talking about getting a top load washer to get through the large amount of laundry that our air b and b properties generate, and as a result, I got a Whirlpool American Style washer delivered, and now a month on, I thought I'd write an update on how I'm finding it v's what I have always been used to, a European Style Front Loader!

So, in general, I find the top loading washer an absolute godsend to be honest! It cuts through laundry so much quicker than any standard European washer could, and it seems to hold so much laundry, I can get through four times as much (although drying it is a different issue!)

It cleans very well, even with the stains it has to shift - think fake tan over sheets, think make up all over beautiful big white bath sheets, etc! Currently its running and the towels had some sort of purple stains all over them. I'll see how they come out! It also performs pretty quietly, which does surprise me.

I am well aware it uses a SHED LOAD of water. But, I am not on a water meter, and have a gas fired combi boiler so the water is instant and plentiful so I have little issue with this.

I've used it wash clothes, not just towels and sheets too, but I do find things don't feel quite so "fresh" if that makes sense, so I put those through the normal machine now, unless I'm rinsing out swimming costumes or something.

I've used all the cycles, and get the feeling that if I was going to be washing my own clothes in it, I'd use perm press for those as with its dilution rinse, I think it rinses better. I used the hand wash cycle, and it is useless, in comparison to a hand wash cycle in a front loader. There are no two ways about it. But that is my personal preference.

I use the 18 minute super wash every time, and was in the habit of running downstairs after the first drain (before the first spin, or else the fabric softener is dispensed!) and resetting it back to a 6 minute wash, where it would fill up again, and I'd use this as an extra rinse, and let it carry on with it its work. But thats a pain in the backside, so now I just leave it to it. I'm sure its fine!

There have been a few times where it has banged REALLY loudly as starting to spin; it was out of balance with the heavy towels so a quick open of the lid, moving them about, and starting the spin again was all it needed!.

I do use an extraordinary amount of detergents (twice as much of everything) to keep things white and clean, but that was to be expected.

The final spin is OK - it def could be better, thats for sure. If I am in a rush to turn clothes around I'll put them in the Siemens Front Loader for a 15 minutes 1400 RPM spin then into the dryer. If not in that much of a rush, I'll just put them into the dryer and know its going to take an extra 30 mins or so (yes I know its lazy :-( ) I do also find using warm rinse makes things at least feel dryer at the end of the cycle!

I also tend to start it filling, wait for it to agitate and then I'll add the detergent, let it mix, then add the clothes in and let the agitator tale take these to the bottom of the machine. This is a bit time consuming I guess, I'd just be worried detergent doesn't dissolve if I sprinkled it on top.

So, in summary, I am really pleased with it, and if it spun a little faster it'd be perfect! Some pictures follow of it!

Shout with any questions, comments. Thanks all!
 
Put detergent in the bottom of the tub, then add laundry, then turn on washer and walk away.  Have you used delicate rather than hand wash?  Seeing that much foam in a load of whites, I'd add an extra rinse if you aren't already.   640 rpm spin vs. 1400 rpm spin is no comparison. 
 
cool setup....yeah, there are pros and cons to a TLer, as what you discovered, the spin isn't as great as the FLer....

most times with a TLer, set to the LOW setting, as you add detergent, let agitate for a few seconds to froth up the detergent, then reset to the LARGE setting, while it continues to fill, start adding clothes, this sort of gives a concentrated Pre-Soak to the items before agitation begins.....

some of these machines don't give a full fill WARM rinse, the fill is COLD, but the spin sprays are WARM, sort of an energy saving part of the cycle...

looks as if you have the space, to stack sets in any configuration to fit your needs....

keep us posted
 
You are being treated well :)

A bit sudsy- less detergent will do, but its a learning curve so no guilt on you.

Do know the spin and agitation speed of this machine btw? I am wondering if its slower at 50Hz or they compensated for it. In any case spin will be much slower compared to the Siemens.
 
One of the reasons you are seeing better results than we do is that you have 70C water, around here the maximum you are likely to see is 60C. That makes the speed of chemical reaction much faster than the usual temps we are likely to use.

While filling the machine on low, letting it agitate to dissolve the detergent and then loading the clothes and setting it on high works well, I will say that when I used to have toploaders I used to add the detergent and the clothes, then start the machine as others have said -- it was in the directions printed under the lid.

If I was worried that the detergent might somehow harm the clothes, for example, dark clothes that might be bleached by concentrated undissolved detergent while the machine filled, I would just put clothes I did not mind if they got bleached or a piece of white fabric reserved for such purposes, between the powder and the laundry. That tended to work just fine.

It's also better if you put the powder right under the fill flume, so it dissolves more quickly.

Good luck!
 
Ditto what Bob said about trying the delicate cycle rather than hand wash. It's what I use most of the time, and with a really good detergent, such as Tide, cleaning power seems to be fine. Pretreatment may be needed, however; you just have to experiment.

No way have I ever even considered using an 18 minute wash at the regular speed! Lol! You're brave. I don't think many textiles would hold up to that kind of beating for long. Mine has a soak cycle for things that need a longer wash, and it's much easier on fabrics.
 
Be careful with fabrics - those machines at full intensity are pretty rough. Even though it may not look as dramatic as a front loader action, they're much more aggressive as there's that backwards - forwards twisting motion which rubs fabric against fabric.

The front loader is more about pushing water through the fabrics as the drum rotates.
 
Keeping things "white and clean"

Americans are wedded to using chlorine bleach, thus these top loading washers past and present are designed with that in mind.

To avoid exposing loads to prolonged aggressive wash action consider stopping machine after five or ten minutes, then allow load to soak for ten to fifteen, then start things up again.

Older Whirlpool washing machines offered a "Super Wash" cycle that did just this:

Fill, agitate for a period, stop/soak, drain out portion of water and continue with soaking, then add fresh water to proper level and commence with rest of cycle.

Idea was that during first part of soaking muck and soils would settle down to bottom of tub, these would be drained off when water was pumped out. Continued soaking in the now concentrated detergent/water mixture left on clothing acted as a "stain treatment".

One old school rule still holds true, especially when using top loading washers; two short wash cycles will give better results than one long.

Also starting washing in hot water will set certain stains including protein based soils. Since human sweat/bodily fluids are of that nature it is best to either pre-wash or soak in cold or tepid water, then wash in hot. That and or simply wash with a modern detergent in cold or warm water.

Front loaders with heaters aren't bothered by this old rule because they can start with cold water and gradually heat to warm, hot or boiling. Exposing wash to hot water from the start is same as poaching an egg; you will cook the protein soils into fabric.

Keep your eyes peeled for a stand alone spin dryer. Loading sheets into the thing could be a pain, and one finds it not really necessary as drying time isn't that much reduced. OTOH for thick and thirsty things like towels, wash cloths, bath mats, etc... it can make a huge difference. It also saves wear and tear on the frong loader as you aren't using it for spinning.
 
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