An evening with the Hoovermatic Deluxe

[lederstiefel1]

Wow!

Wow - this IS a really nice machine - how did you get it? Unused!! Can't imagine!!
Yes the action in a Hoovermatic is very vigorous and I usually fill it up to its maximum - 2.5 kg! But jeans are a problem with ALL pulsator-machines! The fabric is very sturdy and therefor quite stiff - that means that a pair of jeans counts for 1 kg dry-load - no matter of its real weight, I found out! Two pairs of them plus one or two other more smooth articles wash fine - three pairs means 3kg and that is too much as the filling is ristricted to not more than 2.5-2.75 kg. Hotpoints spiral agitator can cope very well with 3 pairs of jeans! The wishy-washy-action is better for stiff fabrics such as jeans and linens.
But remember: other "stiff fabrics" should not be washed in any of these machines....lolololol!!!
BTW - the AEG Lavalux can only cope with ONE pair of jeans plus 1 or 2 other articles in one go at high water level, at low water-level it isn't able to wash even one pair of jeans at all, the washing then gets stuck...imagine!

And yes! washing in a twinnie is soooooooooooo much fun! In any kind of twin-tub machine!
Ralf

 

[maytagbear]

I just love that ad!!

I can see a Hoovermatic as a "Washdog."

Contemporay advertising, at least here in the States, is not that appealing and friendly.

I am sure I have mentioned the Hooovermatic my great aunt had at her summer place in Ontario, Canada. Good memories.

I really do prefer twinnies, vintage or new, to wringers.

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[rolls_rapide]

Fragrance of Ariel

Hoovermatic:

I quite agree about the old Ariel, is was a lovely clean, fresh smell. I cannot stand the fragrance of most of todays detergents. They are far too florally, as are today's fabric conditioners.

The detergent manufacturers seem to think that a sweet, over-powering smell means clean. Does it hell!

And a strong fragrance clashes with aftershaves, perfumes, and deodorants. For that reason, I cannot use modern Ariel Automatic powder, it smells terrible.

 

[chestermikeuk]

Twinnies

Nice machines there John, make sure its stays"MINT"...LOl, thats your pension fund when you sell it back to Hoover....

I do like the strong accent colours...nice to see I`m not the only one who doesnt totally rinse in the twinny!!!and two to three pairs of jeans is about right, unless you are doing a batch of "Tye Dye"....

Those powders just take you straight back, I was sent a 60`s pack of Persil and although sealed some had leaked out into the plastic bag...I put a load of hot water into the sink and tipped the little bit on...OMG..was taken straight back to my Nan`s kitchen with her Hoover Twosome boiling with Persil...wonderful..

 

[johnbirmingham]

Mike-Twosome

Hi Mike,
That twinnie WILL stay mint i can assure you. Your spin can on the Twosome looks rather full, I don`t remember using it LOL !! I never liked Persil probably because my mother used it in her Empress which as you know i hated.
Just love my Tanglematics too much !!

 

[lederstiefel1]

Hi Mike!

These two Hoovers I had, too! I saved them from the garbage. There was nothing wrong with them. Later I gave them to the rural-life museum nearby Frankfurt when I went to Spain for two years. A mistake, I know today!
Ralf

 

[johnbirmingham]

Hoovermatic 3314L Washday

Taken Saturday March 10th 2007 doing my sisters washing !

http://ttp//www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR645lDSTwo

 

[johnbirmingham]

Hoovermatic 3314L

Sorry guys last link was wrong, this should be OK.

J

 

[lederstiefel1]

Hoovermatic 3314L

Yeaaaahhhhhh!!! That's it!!!
That is doing necessarily jobs plus having lots of fun all in one go!!!

Ralf

 

[hoovermatic]

Love the vid!! It is funny how there are subtle differences in how people use Hoovermatics. I would never load dirty laundry into the tub without the pulsator running and yet other people put the clothes in with it off and one person I know puts the laundry in the empty tub and adds water. There has been so much fantastic HMDL 'activity' on here lately I am more determined than ever to get another one!

 

[74simon]

Wow John,

Yours sounds beautiful! Have you done much work to it, or was it just well cared for? The spinner's so quiet compared to mine, especially as it winds down. It must be so hard having to resist using that T5024 as well. Love all that orange!

Ralf - I might try your trick with the aluminium foil! I do notice that even after a fourth automatic rinse, a lot of suds seem to come out still. I've tried filling the spin can at different rates, but it doesn't seem to make much of a difference.

As for filling the washtub with water, I think I'll stick to putting the washing in before starting the motor. It avoids any splatting and ensures everything gets the full wash, especially synthetics with the short wash times. I do have to say I like the way it stops the wash if the water temperature drops - very semi-automatic! I never knew they did that.

I'm with John on this 'final rinse in an automatic' business. It just ain't right! Our Hotpoint used to rinse well, but then we used to literally fill the spin canister to the brim with water. But I believe this is not the done thing for manual rinse machines...

Incidentally, my Hoover is currently ill, having tripped my RCD (GFCI) several times when the heater was switched on. I did wonder if maybe the 3KW draw was too much for my RCD, but it worked fine with the 3KW kettle, so I guess the heater is leaking to earth (ground). I've ordered a replacement, but suspect it may be a 2KW jobbie. I did check the element visually, and there are several large dark brown spots on it. Thought it was rust at first, but the elements are brass, aren't they?

It started tripping the RCD when my partner went to use it when I was at work. I told him that the machine simply knew he was a liability to fragile old appliances, and was merely protecting itself.

He, on the other hand, has started to refer to it as Christine...

Si

 

[rolls_rapide]

Rinsing

That's why my mum never used that function.

And that also explains why the twintub powders still contain phosphates: they rinse away much better (apart from the suds!) than the modern automatic zeolite formulations.

 

[lederstiefel1]

74simon, Rolls_rapide

Simon, yes give it a try - if you do not like it the alu-foil can be removed easly with a corkscrew.
I also put in the washing first and switch the machine on after having closed the lid because of splashing and to give a full wash-time to each garment.
Concerning your heater-element: brown stains are a hint to a broken wire and it is destroyed and needs replacement!
My Hotpoint does rinse very well in the auto-rinse mode, but you are right in saying so that phosphate-powders and especially soap-based ones rinse out much quicker and easier than zeolite-based detergents. But what can I do? There are no longer such powders available on the German market...
And rinsng in a different machine or doing it in the tub spoils all the advantages a twin-tub has!
Ralf

 

[johnbirmingham]

HMDL

Hi 74Simon,
Thanks for the compliments on my machine. I have owned the machine for about 3 years now & yes i have replaced several parts on it, the list follows:-

Drive pulley including bearing that sits on pedestal mount
New genuine Hoover pump & belt
New resilient mount counterface & seal
Changed mechanical wash timer to an electric one, the old one was starting to seize and kept breaking the control knob
New heater pressure switch & diaphram
New wash sump hose
New drive belt (spin)
New outlet hose

I think thats about it !! Shes worth it lol that machine is the love of my life xx

It is very hard not to use the T5024 but I am determined not to as I want to keep a `NEW` Machine.
I`m glad you agree with Ralf & myself about rinsing in another machine as you said it just aint right !

Alot of the parts mentioned above are new but some were sourced from a T5090 that i broke down because at one time i had 4 of them LOL. You mentioned in earlier post about only washing one or two pairs of jeans at a time, this is about right, for some reason Hoovermatics do not like denim.
I really don`t think it would be the belt. I have owned various Hoovermatics over the last 25 years & have never known the wash drive belt needing replacement.

What type of noise do you think is not right with yours??
On the spin side sometimes the transax pin which secures the drive shaft into the heavy pulley can work loose, tighten it with an allen key as this can cause spin can noise

Rinsing in the Hotpoint, I have a 9414 which i rarely use, the spin tub & can may be filled to the top with water i think because of the clutch mechanism which alows the pump to operate at full speed whilst the can will build up speed as the water reduces.
I just find the Hotpoint too slow at rinsing compared to the Hoover !! as said before just love my Tanglematics too much lol
Ralf, i will get the Hotpoint out soon & upload some pics as it is a mint example,
Anyway Bye for now x
John.

 

[lederstiefel1]

Hy John

That was really nice information about your machines!
As much as you like your Hoover I actually like my Hotpoint.
Best for auto-rinse is really the Hotpoint auto-rinse which I also "tuned" a bit....lol. Can't keep my fingers away from that.....
I sealed the two halfs of the spinner cover-ring, the one with the spray-holes in, together with silicone, as I found out that a part of the water pours like a ring shower arround the outside of the spin-can; it fills the outer container instead the spinner drum, to say so! What a waste, I thought!
Also I closed the littel hole at the nozzel that leads to the spray ring-cover which has the purpose to let water run out of the hose when disconnecting from the rear inlet nozzel. But this costs also unused water that just runs into the outer container of the spinner! To avoid spilling now I have to blow out the water from the hose first befoe disconnecting the hose from the machine. But that isn't really a heavy job to do - isn't it?!?! lolol
So, with my machine EVERY drop of water HAS to go INTO the spinner drum and can only escape THROUGH the washing in it!
Consequence: the first rinse seems to never come to an end, I thought first, because of the foam appearing in the outer container during the first spin-rinse, as no by-passing fresh water is "killing" it any more like before.
BUT: since then the machine only needs two rinses anymore! Because equivalent to the amount of foam in the outer container there's still an amount of suds in the washing and the very moment the foam collapses, the water leaving the garments in the spinner drum is nearly suds free, too!
Then the machine will do another final soak and spin-off rinse and - perfectly done!
So, automatically by the physical regulator circuit of foam the machine "knows" when the washing is rinsed. I tested it with more and less powder and different garments as well: the more detergent or the more absorbent the garment - the more foam - the longer the first rinse - automatically!

Ralf