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charles

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I was recently looking at on to those blogs in which people were talking about updating their outdated kitchens. I started to realize that most of the things that they were replacing had been very popular not that long ago. that brings me to my main question, What makes a trend or item ( especially in the kitchen) out of date?
 
I dunno but I'm sometimes amazed at what kitchens show up at our local Habitat Restore. Very nice, very expensive high end kitchens, probably ripped out of a tony house that is undergoing reno's.. Some of them don't even seem that old, perhaps 10 or 15 year, some less. They often have the appliances with them,, like Sub Zero fridges and huge big buck cooktops
 
My impression of the design world is that new stuff shows up when people are "bored" with something, and they can easily get bored when that something is popular/everywhere.

It doesn't have to be a kitchen, it can be home decor, home colors, clothes, cars anything.

In fact, I'm told, that there's some sort of consortium that meets every year or two to decide "what colors" will be "in fashion" next. As opposed to letting people choose colors and see what floats to the top of the popular list.

So, in a very rough description, for kitchens, it goes more or less like this: some rich person or a group of them, choose an expensive "luxury" item. Then one of them ends up with their home completely documented on one of the magazines, then more people end up buying it, then more magazines, tv shows and websites start publishing more and more about it, then high-middle class people start using the items to "make their homes higher end", then the price falls because manufacturing increases, then the middle class starts seeing it everywhere and buying it. At that point, the upper classes think it's a trend and already outdated, because "everyone" can have it.

A few years after that, when all the new-home builders have put the item in nearly every home, people will be sick and tired of it and a new thing will take its place. You can expect that any second now, people will look at brand new kitchens with "farmhouse" sinks and say it's an "outdated 2000's home" or "outdated 2010's home" depending on how rich the person is and/or was paying attention to such things.

I'm waiting for stainless-steel everything to disappear again for another 20-30 years, due to how popular it is right now. I don't mind stainless steel, but I tend to prefer white appliances anyway, it's easier to replace just the appliance that broke down/needs it anyway, instead of the entire kitchen.

Also, please pay attention to how much popularity makes people change opinions. A few decades ago, a "built-in" appliance, like a dishwasher or fridge, was considered "hidden" and people thought that the feature would "make the kitchen larger" -- I remember when people with such appliances had to tell visitors where the appliances were. I never fully understood that -- it was more than clear where the refrigerator and dishwasher were, even if they were "fully integrated" because every single one of them broke the lines of cabinets with their particular "features" that would let people open them and/or ventilation happen. Nowadays, people are *so* used to appliances like that that they locate them themselves with no help whatsoever, even though fridges, for example, got even stealthier than they used to be, today even the ventilation grid seems to have been eliminated, and they *still* can be easily located.

I happen to *also* think that there are things I do *not* want to hide from my guests and want them to locate them by themselves *immediately* and without having to ask for assistance, and that includes the sink, the stovetop and oven, the dishwasher, the fridge/freezer, the light switches and the toilet. (Yes, "the toilet" is here because about 10-15 years ago, when reading a magazine about homes, I was astounded to find out that some misguided people thought it was a good idea to pay over US $10,000 for a toilet that had some model name along the lines of "hat box" and I asked around if anyone would like to spend any time during a time of need trying to locate a toilet that looked like that or trying to guess how to open/operate the damned thing, and no one volunteered, and *everyone* thought I was kidding when I then informed them of the price tag for the "privilege". Needless to say, I don't think that style of toilet has caught on.)

There is no need to say that those are my personal opinions and they don't even get you a cup of coffee or a subway ride. I do suspect that my point of view is very popular and shared with most people, but it's not "chic" to agree with it, we should all try to imitate the rich and famous instead. So we all end up with the same kitchen of whoever is popular this week. I'm told that currently, that would be Barefoot Contessa's Ina Garten, whose kitchen won some kind of prize and a copy of it is visited by thousands of people per month -- the copy is in a park in NYC, I believe.
 
What makes things out of date?  Root cause is women.  The industry panders to their whimsical perception of fashion.  Like the pop music industry panders with more of the same to whoever bought their 'records' last time, except less gender specific.
 
Charles & Paulo, I whole heartedly agree. Concerning stainless steel appliances, I think it was Joe, in another thread, that mentioned stainless steel appliances reminded him of a morgue.....well, ever since he said that I've never looked at stainless steel in the same way!!!! LOL. And really, they are not built any better or worse than the other appliances so you might as well get what you LIKE.

Counter tops is another issue, of what is practical in day to day use and care.

I suspect a lot has to do with ones daily / weekly routine in what works for them. Someone who is, say, a truck driver really wouldn't care about the newest trends in their homes...they just want what works for them, and something they can live with comfortably.
Me, I really like a white washer & dryer, it looks clean and classy.

Just my thoughts.

Barry
 
I’ve never liked stainless steel appliances and granite counter tops are over rated too. Give me some nice white appilances and a good formica or tiled counter top and I’m good to go. Frankly, I couldn’t care less about design trends. My belief is that you should make your home and surroundings suit your needs and likes, you’re the one living there and using it.

And as far as remodling to sell, in order to please potential buyers, thats an exercise in futility and a waste of money. If the buyer doesn’t like it, let them remodel to their liking. I’ve said over and over again on this site that all you need to do is watch HGTV, House Hunters to realize that there is no universal formula to please potential buyers. They can walk into a kitchen that has been recently redone with granite and stainless steel and proclaim, “It’s not our style, and it will require a complete gut job!” So that seller, who spent thousands of dollars hoping to make their home attractive to “buyers”, could have put a stack on hundred dollar bills on top of there toilet tank and used them in place of the Charmin, for all the good it did them.

As long as the home is in basic good repair, save you money and live to suit yourself. Now if the kitchen is a wreck, thats another story, make it presentalble and don’t spend a fortune, chances are you won’t get the return on your expenditure that you were hoping for.

And if you plan to stay in your home forever, then of course make it what you want.

Just my two cents worth.

Eddie
 
Those HGTV and other shows I think is part of what drives this. The people on those shows in no way show how it works in the real world. Maybe in the expensive areas of the country. But I could tell you, around here, most people don't buy houses and immediately gut the kitchen and bathrooms. Some people remodel, but the average homebuyer in no way the means to immediately set out to redo things that don't fit their whim. They either live with it for a while and update along the way or they buy something else.

All of this redoing kitchens every 5 years has really gotten silly and wasteful. It used to be a kitchen was meant to last 50 years or more and just the flooring or countertops got replaced maybe. But now you have people that replace their kitchen as often as they replace their underwear.

It's odd everyone is still gaga over stainless steel appliances and think they're better. They've been popular now for what, 15 or 20 years at least? I think that's when they started getting popular again on the high end. Now everything down to the most BOL appliances is available in it, and now there's shaded stainless, black, stainless, etc at the high end. All it is, is a finish. It doesn't make the appliances any better.

Design trends really don't interest me. There are some nice things there that I wouldn't mind, but if I like something and the popular consensus doesn't, I don't care because it's mine to do what I want with.
 
tatses vary

Designers make money by selling new designs.
Things are either under or over rated.
Choices abound within different budgets. People like what they like.
I like quartz, granite, SS, greys, blues, burgundy's, cherry, some white, some maple, some oak. Herringbone fabrics, cheniles, leathers. Our home has all of those.
 
I'm doing what Eddie said!  Our new kitchen isn't exactly ideal, but compared to our previous and tired 1927 kitchen with original cabinetry and layout, plus bad DIY tile counter tops from 1970,  I'm fine with it.  It actually looks clean after you clean it.

 

I agree with the statements that place the blame for kitchen remodels squarely on women.  But that's OK.  We wouldn't have the selection of nearly new top of the line appliances in our ReStores if not for them.
 

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