An opinion...probably from our UK members: Hoover 'Generation Future' washers and dishwashers....
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Hoover is the "upper" brand from the Candy Group when they aquired the company in 1995 after the Hoover free flights promotion.
I tought that they held the name Hoover only in Europe but it seems that it's the case also in Australia as those are Italian sourced machines! But I don't know if they come from the Italian factories or from the Russian or Chinese ones (they also own Jinling brand and Vyatka where models for export are produced).
Hoover placement is in the MOL/TOL segment while Candy is BOL/MOL range but internally are the same machines. I see the price point of that machines is quite steep but it seems the case with every appliance sold in Australia compared to the same machines here in Europe.
Surely I'd suggest one of them as I own a Candy machine and I'm most satisfied with the performances, it's the best cleaning machine I tried, even better than the Miele ones we have at business.
I tought that they held the name Hoover only in Europe but it seems that it's the case also in Australia as those are Italian sourced machines! But I don't know if they come from the Italian factories or from the Russian or Chinese ones (they also own Jinling brand and Vyatka where models for export are produced).
Hoover placement is in the MOL/TOL segment while Candy is BOL/MOL range but internally are the same machines. I see the price point of that machines is quite steep but it seems the case with every appliance sold in Australia compared to the same machines here in Europe.
Surely I'd suggest one of them as I own a Candy machine and I'm most satisfied with the performances, it's the best cleaning machine I tried, even better than the Miele ones we have at business.
aegokocarat
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i have a candy washing machine and dryer, both are excelent and i wouldent hesitate to buy them again, they are very good for the money 
the dishwashers arnt too good IME from that Candy noVa dishwasher.
Tom
the dishwashers arnt too good IME from that Candy noVa dishwasher.
Tom
solsburian
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The build quality of their Washing machines is not the best IMHO. The latest issue seems to be that the door rubber chafes against the drum on some machines, causing small bits of rubber to be deposited on clothes and the door.
If you do want one, I'd go for one with a smaller capacity (8kg or under) as the lightweight build dosen't bode well with a large drum. They are pretty noisy too and bearing failure can be a problem.
I've only seen their dishwashers in a shop, but they look ok in the flesh and don't feel too flimsy.
If you do want one, I'd go for one with a smaller capacity (8kg or under) as the lightweight build dosen't bode well with a large drum. They are pretty noisy too and bearing failure can be a problem.
I've only seen their dishwashers in a shop, but they look ok in the flesh and don't feel too flimsy.
rolls_rapide
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Well in my experience Hoover appliances now, are simply rebadged Candy appliances.
My local Comet stocks the Hoover Vision Dynamic washer, but no Hoover Dishwashers.
No upright bagged vacuum cleaners from ANY manufacturer, either (God only knows who does the merchandising in that store!!!). Plenty of bagless Hoover machines (Jazz, TurboPower, Hurricane, DustManager), but not the latest Globe. The bagged upright Purepower was "out of stock". They're useless.
Scottish Hydro Electric shop doesn't stock Hoover uprights either. The local independent store got shot of Hoover appliances too, citing problems.
So it would appear that Hoover has increasingly edged down the Swannee.
As far as I can see, other manufacturers seem to have taken over the floor space once occupied by Hoover.
Hoover as a company, has lost its direction.
My local Comet stocks the Hoover Vision Dynamic washer, but no Hoover Dishwashers.
No upright bagged vacuum cleaners from ANY manufacturer, either (God only knows who does the merchandising in that store!!!). Plenty of bagless Hoover machines (Jazz, TurboPower, Hurricane, DustManager), but not the latest Globe. The bagged upright Purepower was "out of stock". They're useless.
Scottish Hydro Electric shop doesn't stock Hoover uprights either. The local independent store got shot of Hoover appliances too, citing problems.
So it would appear that Hoover has increasingly edged down the Swannee.
As far as I can see, other manufacturers seem to have taken over the floor space once occupied by Hoover.
Hoover as a company, has lost its direction.
haxisfan
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My favourite brand ;-)
I couldn't resist getting a new dishwasher from this group today to replace my nearly 10 year old Candy Acquaviva (still working but making a whirring noise - maybe the motor's bearings are wearing out).
Having analised my situation carefully, I decided to invest in a new machine rather than waiting until my current dishwasher gives up the ghost. I got an offer I couldn't refuse on a brand new Hoover dishwasher and I can't wait to have it delivered this Thursday. My washing machine (almost as old) is also from this group and, together with the Candy diwshwasher, it's the supporting reason for my enthusiasm for this brand... having said that, I'm so tempted to replace it too with their newer front loading range which I find so utterly appealing!!
Still, some of these appliances might not be suitable for everyone, you better do a thorough research before choosing one of them. The cheapest models have a habit on skimping on essential options making their machines less flexible... but again, all depends on your needs and preferences. I might suggest that before choosing an appliance of any brand, you might download and peruse the instruction manual of the particular model you have in mind to get a good idea of how well you'd get on with it! I haven't checked the Aussie Hoover website, but you can always get the manuals from the UK or other EU sites.
Sorry for my keeping on today... it's just the excitement of getting a new machine... it'll wear off eventually
I couldn't resist getting a new dishwasher from this group today to replace my nearly 10 year old Candy Acquaviva (still working but making a whirring noise - maybe the motor's bearings are wearing out).
Having analised my situation carefully, I decided to invest in a new machine rather than waiting until my current dishwasher gives up the ghost. I got an offer I couldn't refuse on a brand new Hoover dishwasher and I can't wait to have it delivered this Thursday. My washing machine (almost as old) is also from this group and, together with the Candy diwshwasher, it's the supporting reason for my enthusiasm for this brand... having said that, I'm so tempted to replace it too with their newer front loading range which I find so utterly appealing!!
Still, some of these appliances might not be suitable for everyone, you better do a thorough research before choosing one of them. The cheapest models have a habit on skimping on essential options making their machines less flexible... but again, all depends on your needs and preferences. I might suggest that before choosing an appliance of any brand, you might download and peruse the instruction manual of the particular model you have in mind to get a good idea of how well you'd get on with it! I haven't checked the Aussie Hoover website, but you can always get the manuals from the UK or other EU sites.
Sorry for my keeping on today... it's just the excitement of getting a new machine... it'll wear off eventually
solsburian
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@rolls_rapide
Sorry I should have said I seen the dishwasher in Costco. They don't seem to stock any Hoover appliances now though.
For a while they did a variety of Hoover appliances and much to my horror my stepdad bought a WDYN856D without consulting me first, that lasted about two days before the gasget chafing problem manifested itself (Which reported their evaluation machine did the same thing as well). When we returned it the cashier said they had a high return rate for them.
@haxisfan
I've always liked the look of their Dynamic dishwashers, I hope it works well. However you should defiantly keep your Nextra for as long as possible though,
Sorry I should have said I seen the dishwasher in Costco. They don't seem to stock any Hoover appliances now though.
For a while they did a variety of Hoover appliances and much to my horror my stepdad bought a WDYN856D without consulting me first, that lasted about two days before the gasget chafing problem manifested itself (Which reported their evaluation machine did the same thing as well). When we returned it the cashier said they had a high return rate for them.
@haxisfan
I've always liked the look of their Dynamic dishwashers, I hope it works well. However you should defiantly keep your Nextra for as long as possible though,
My favorite aswell
Hi!
I have a lot of experience with Hoover (Candy) appliances, not just because I have 2 new(ish) ones, but because nearly whole friend/family company owns at least 1 appliance from that group.
My Candy washing machine is 4 years old washing 10 loads per week (I gave the key to the kindergarten where I used to go, so that's the reason why so much).
Would recommend them to anyone.
Dishwashers? same story, although I mostly saw basic models doing, on them, drying could be better, washing is perfect, aswell as the wash times.
And just a note - they have full free 5year parts and labor in some countries in Europe.
Some of their vacum cleaners in UK got that recently aswell
Rolls_rapide,
to make long story short - market requires more than they can produce in their factories right now. I really wondered why is the story like that all over my country, and, obviously, others, untill I was personal witness to the story:
A certain amount of appliances comes every month, or month and a half, fresh from the factory. So on the day trucks arrived, everything got in stock, websites given the green dot (which means "in stock") - and it all looks nice. 10days later, the bestseller (Optima) - out of stock, even the exibitional units. 12 days later slim washer dryer, and the new top loader (EvoPlaisir) - out of stock. 14th day (CDPE 6320) - out of stock. By the 17th day most of C/H appliances were out of stock. That is annoying, and after some time, just makes some shops not order them anymore.
Hope I didn't bore you.. couldn't make it shorter
Here's just a random image that I have from their tumble dryers...notice the Aristocrat label
Hi!
I have a lot of experience with Hoover (Candy) appliances, not just because I have 2 new(ish) ones, but because nearly whole friend/family company owns at least 1 appliance from that group.
My Candy washing machine is 4 years old washing 10 loads per week (I gave the key to the kindergarten where I used to go, so that's the reason why so much).
Would recommend them to anyone.
Dishwashers? same story, although I mostly saw basic models doing, on them, drying could be better, washing is perfect, aswell as the wash times.
And just a note - they have full free 5year parts and labor in some countries in Europe.
Some of their vacum cleaners in UK got that recently aswell
Rolls_rapide,
to make long story short - market requires more than they can produce in their factories right now. I really wondered why is the story like that all over my country, and, obviously, others, untill I was personal witness to the story:
A certain amount of appliances comes every month, or month and a half, fresh from the factory. So on the day trucks arrived, everything got in stock, websites given the green dot (which means "in stock") - and it all looks nice. 10days later, the bestseller (Optima) - out of stock, even the exibitional units. 12 days later slim washer dryer, and the new top loader (EvoPlaisir) - out of stock. 14th day (CDPE 6320) - out of stock. By the 17th day most of C/H appliances were out of stock. That is annoying, and after some time, just makes some shops not order them anymore.
Hope I didn't bore you.. couldn't make it shorter
Here's just a random image that I have from their tumble dryers...notice the Aristocrat label
rolls_rapide
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Nrones
Thanks for that!
Hoover Aristocrat is usually used to signify products for independent stores, or as they are now, Euronics stores.
If the stock levels now are so bad, Candy/Hoover would have been better keeping the various factories they closed in the first place. What they have done is basically to cut their own throat.
Thanks for that!
Hoover Aristocrat is usually used to signify products for independent stores, or as they are now, Euronics stores.
If the stock levels now are so bad, Candy/Hoover would have been better keeping the various factories they closed in the first place. What they have done is basically to cut their own throat.
Modern Hoover Dishwasher Video (link)
Rolls,
it looks that way, but there is other side of the story, which kinda isn't for public
Here in the link is a detailly previewed Standard wash cycle on a Hoover (Candy made) dishwasher, aswell as results after washing
Rolls,
it looks that way, but there is other side of the story, which kinda isn't for public
Here in the link is a detailly previewed Standard wash cycle on a Hoover (Candy made) dishwasher, aswell as results after washing
Vision
One of the UK guys has had one of the first Vision 964 machines , 9kg 1600spin and it has been well tested both by him, lots of dog blankets and at wash parties, these are a great machine and no probs with it, its quiet in operation, does a perfect job and has rinses half up the door, the spin is excellent..
As to them being flimsy machines - look for yourself - the cabinets are lock in corners and unless the batches being made in the last 2 months are anything to go by they are very solid and stand steady on spin!!
A good machines for your money!!
One of the UK guys has had one of the first Vision 964 machines , 9kg 1600spin and it has been well tested both by him, lots of dog blankets and at wash parties, these are a great machine and no probs with it, its quiet in operation, does a perfect job and has rinses half up the door, the spin is excellent..
As to them being flimsy machines - look for yourself - the cabinets are lock in corners and unless the batches being made in the last 2 months are anything to go by they are very solid and stand steady on spin!!
A good machines for your money!!
Deep Fill Rinses
Time Manager
Programming is very flexible, with fixed programmes or choose your own time, temperature & spin speed!!
Programming is very flexible, with fixed programmes or choose your own time, temperature & spin speed!!
Vision
Drum & Paddles
Drum & Paddles
Agree with Mike...
I wouldn't mind recommending a modern Hoover machine either... I had one briefly when I first moved in here to tide me over, it's now over at my brother's house and is an excellent machine!
It's of no worse, if not better quality than competing Zanussis and even BOL Bosch machines I dare say - I can safely say the same of the new Hotpoint range (which I own now); and performance wise both the Hoover and my current Hotpoint equal if not better than the 8 year old Miele which I had before.
One thing I really liked about the Hoover was the spin, a no-fuss 10 minute spin not unsimilar to that of the German machines, gradually working its way up to a 2 minute 1400rpm peak at the end of the cycle. The wide diameter drum really helped with tumbling the load, even with high water levels the load would "roll' through the water not unlike the old Hoover "roller rinses".
They've perhaps had a bit of a shady reputation in the past, but I honestly couldn't fault anything about this machine - very sturdy, heavy, and surprisingly stable even with unbalance loads during spinning, the only useful addition would be an instant release door lock that most other manufacturers are able to offer nowadays even on cheaper machines.
I think several will concur with me that the state of the washer market today, quality and performance wise, is a lot better overall the whole spectrum of brands than where we were 5 or 6 years ago - I'm wondering if perhaps the new WEEE rules are having an effect on the quality of modern machines? All we have to do is look how even Beko have come on leaps and bounds to where they were 5 years ago!
Jon
I wouldn't mind recommending a modern Hoover machine either... I had one briefly when I first moved in here to tide me over, it's now over at my brother's house and is an excellent machine!
It's of no worse, if not better quality than competing Zanussis and even BOL Bosch machines I dare say - I can safely say the same of the new Hotpoint range (which I own now); and performance wise both the Hoover and my current Hotpoint equal if not better than the 8 year old Miele which I had before.
One thing I really liked about the Hoover was the spin, a no-fuss 10 minute spin not unsimilar to that of the German machines, gradually working its way up to a 2 minute 1400rpm peak at the end of the cycle. The wide diameter drum really helped with tumbling the load, even with high water levels the load would "roll' through the water not unlike the old Hoover "roller rinses".
They've perhaps had a bit of a shady reputation in the past, but I honestly couldn't fault anything about this machine - very sturdy, heavy, and surprisingly stable even with unbalance loads during spinning, the only useful addition would be an instant release door lock that most other manufacturers are able to offer nowadays even on cheaper machines.
I think several will concur with me that the state of the washer market today, quality and performance wise, is a lot better overall the whole spectrum of brands than where we were 5 or 6 years ago - I'm wondering if perhaps the new WEEE rules are having an effect on the quality of modern machines? All we have to do is look how even Beko have come on leaps and bounds to where they were 5 years ago!
Jon
Hoover /Candy quality continues to fall. . .
The number of Welded tub machines have boomed over the last five years with all manufacturers involved.
This means any tub / bearing fault and the machine goes down the skip.
A favourite for these Hoover /Candy machines is the pressure vessel to get blocked from over soaping and the machine goes down the skip.
Unbelievably there is no way to clear the air chamber as its attatched to the welded tub. Down the skip again.
Very sad state of affairs.
The number of Welded tub machines have boomed over the last five years with all manufacturers involved.
This means any tub / bearing fault and the machine goes down the skip.
A favourite for these Hoover /Candy machines is the pressure vessel to get blocked from over soaping and the machine goes down the skip.
Unbelievably there is no way to clear the air chamber as its attatched to the welded tub. Down the skip again.
Very sad state of affairs.
Deep rinse(s)
Just wanted to send a pic from me aswell, of the deep rinse on a modern machine
I also want to agree with Chris74, and that is that the toploaders used to be really bad. Especially electronic wise, and control pannels falling down into the machine... So much of them broke down in 5 year guarantee period, that some major stores even started stocking them out.
However, they have been completely revised, all problems solved, so the new EvoPlaisir/Dynamic 2.0 toploaders are worth it. They have been tested by 1 institution, and 2 independent technitians in order to get back in some major stores here. They've passed the test so good, word had spread around, and, as I've mentioned in previous post they are being sold out very quickly (and there are much cheaper machines with "same" characteristics (even 90eur cheaper), and they aren't sold as good as this one)
Even when you touch them, you feel the new buttons can withstand some abuse, compared to previous ones that weren't so much...
About vibrations while spinning - models that are 5, 6, 7 and 9 kg in standard size (not slim) are perfectly stable. 7kg in 40cm and 8kg in both 44 and 52cm depth, aswell as grand 11kg ones are more vibrating due to smaller difference between tub size and drum size, hence drum having less space to "moove" inside the cabinet - however that is nothing more than standard vibrations of some other brands I've seen.
So, here's the deep rinse from mine GrandOPlus And sorry for such a long reply, I would just feel stupid if I didn't share things related to the subject that I know
Just wanted to send a pic from me aswell, of the deep rinse on a modern machine
I also want to agree with Chris74, and that is that the toploaders used to be really bad. Especially electronic wise, and control pannels falling down into the machine... So much of them broke down in 5 year guarantee period, that some major stores even started stocking them out.
However, they have been completely revised, all problems solved, so the new EvoPlaisir/Dynamic 2.0 toploaders are worth it. They have been tested by 1 institution, and 2 independent technitians in order to get back in some major stores here. They've passed the test so good, word had spread around, and, as I've mentioned in previous post they are being sold out very quickly (and there are much cheaper machines with "same" characteristics (even 90eur cheaper), and they aren't sold as good as this one)
Even when you touch them, you feel the new buttons can withstand some abuse, compared to previous ones that weren't so much...
About vibrations while spinning - models that are 5, 6, 7 and 9 kg in standard size (not slim) are perfectly stable. 7kg in 40cm and 8kg in both 44 and 52cm depth, aswell as grand 11kg ones are more vibrating due to smaller difference between tub size and drum size, hence drum having less space to "moove" inside the cabinet - however that is nothing more than standard vibrations of some other brands I've seen.
So, here's the deep rinse from mine GrandOPlus
And sorry for such a long reply, I would just feel stupid if I didn't share things related to the subject that I knowQuite a lot of water
I agree, the older top-loaders are a bit flimsy. In our machine, the control for imbalancies is a bit uber-sensible so that it isn't spinning at all or is vibrating very hard. It may be like that, that 7 kilos in a 40cm cabinet are just too much.
I agree, the older top-loaders are a bit flimsy. In our machine, the control for imbalancies is a bit uber-sensible so that it isn't spinning at all or is vibrating very hard. It may be like that, that 7 kilos in a 40cm cabinet are just too much.
