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We are on our second Stearns & Foster mattress. This one we purchased in 1987. Still relatively lump/depression free. We'll probably end up with another S&F. When we buy a new bed it takes us about 10 days to "get used" to the new bed before we are comfortable. After that it's smooth sailing.
 
It's not just experience which is of value. There is also strong crtiical value (critical as in critique, not necessarily as in "this is terrible!"), and strong expectations for quality.
 
I managed to find a deal this morning at a local liquidators who was having a sale although they had no queen size left it'll be 2 weeks to delivery.  It's a Kingsdown hybrid (memory foam / pocket coil) for $599 incl delivery. It seemed very much like the construction of the $1300 Sealy hybrid.   Fortunately they had a display set up and I laid on it for 15 minuts.. Only time will tell now.  It was a toss up between that and a Basset something or other which felt more plush y , just a bit too plush.. I could see it sagging or getting the big divet in a year or so.   Fingers crossed... 
 
I hope you like your Kingsdown

<span style="font-family: 'courier new', courier;">I had never heard of this brand until I started my research. The reviews were very mixed but the store owner convinced me they have sold hundreds (maybe thousands I don't really know) of these and has had great success. The store has their own reviews and those were all favorable.  I know it was a leap of faith because the store could tell us anything they want but this store is a well known very reputable company here in Arkansas.  They have been around for many, many years.  I liked that I could contribute to our local economy and from what I can tell this bed was manufactured in North Carolina.  The store has a 30 day no questions asked return policy so I figured I had little to loose. </span>

<span style="font-family: 'courier new', courier;">We are happy so far.  Besides my other half said if I don't pick one soon he will loose his mind.  </span>
 
I would prefer having an old-fashioned mattress, but our twisting staircase prohibits getting anything larger than a queen mattress (can't even get a queen box spring up it--they do make "split queen" box springs should you have the need). We got the Novaform from Costco several years ago (in a box)...the boxed mattresses seem to be the wave of the future...Casper, Leesa, etc. Saw an article recently stating that the proliferation of mattress stores is a factor that they're cheap to put up, hold no stock and are cheap to run. Anyway, the foam mattress is OK for us (we use it on an Ikea box spring). It's very isolating (actually its so isolating it's tough get in/out or to have sex on it...somehow that works better in a hotel room :) ). and doesn't feel like it's broken down too badly. For the limitations our house put on things, it's fine. The Sleep Number--my parents got one, and it's also good in upstairs/tight configurations, and breaks down easily for moving--perhaps a good special-purpose mattress. Interesting they don't sell in Canada, though.
 
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Our new Costco 14" thick KS,  mattress comes compressed in a big heavy box slightly smaller than a DW, this was great because our old KSM got bent slightly getting it up stairs and around the corner. Best of all there is no reason for a box spring with a 14" mattress.
 
 

When I sold my Sleep Number, I sold in pieces on Ebay.  

If you're in Canada, or where ever, and you already and have a box spring and frame, you can look to buy the pieces.  

 

You'd need:  the mattress shell with top, air chamber, pump, and foam sides (if not included with the shell).  

 

I had the lower end model, as I like firm mattress.  I also had the basic air pump which is nothing more than a pump with a hand held on/off switch.   The whole "sleep number" thing is catchy term, but for your own bed, you kind of want it the same firmness all the time.  So, once I set up the bed, I'd just unplug and slide all the controls under the bed because I knew I won't be using them.  

 

I tried some type of memory foam mattress, in a hotel I was staying at.  It was horrible.  The longer I slept on it, the worse I felt.  You'd sink in so much, you didn't need a pillow.  My back ACHED during the day after using it.   Was awful.

 

An air mattress that leaks air, regardless of what brand, is broken and should not be slept on.  Since selling my air Sleep number, I've experimented with several air mattresses and longevity is definitely an issue. Some lasted a month (Kmart) and took back 4 times basically at the end of each month.  My most recent was nice with easy use pump that lasted a year and half (Kohls).  Then, when staying at a hotel (I always bring my own linens and mattress) I was pumping it up and heard the hiss.  :-(

 

Also, the cheaper air mattress are made with questionable poly-vinyl materials that off-gas and can irritate one's eyes and nose (the cheapest one was the worst).

Sleep number beds have an air bladder made from rubber witch is more durable (TODD, what were you doing in the Hotel?) and they don't lose air over time, even with MOST activities.  In all the time I had the Sleep number, it never leaked.

 

A few things to keep in mind:

You really can't give a honest opinion about a mattress until you've slept on it for at least 5 days.  If you're going from a terrible saggy spring mattress to anything new, you won't be used to it, and your opinion is likely to be negative.   Remember, the question isn't "Is this mattress like the one you have NOW?, the question is "Does this mattress make you feel good when laying down?"  

 

One reason I won't do a spring mattress is they are designed to fail and wear out.  The force of gravity will slowly compress the metal springs.  So you know it will disappoint, but it won't always be obvious.   I've gone the route, back in the 80s, when getting my first mattress set from JCPenny. It was fine the first 6 months, but then just got worse.  If you start over with a new set, same thing.  Do you see the pattern here and how it's designed to hit YOUR pocket book?

 

Third, starting in the early 2000s, the spring mattress industry really ramped up advertising with a number of gimmicks.  Frankly, when ever there is a product that is designed to need replacement, corporatists/investors will go all out to exploit it.  And they did.   Remember the talking sheep, and the pillow tops requiring special deep sided fitted sheets....... and the ever LARGER Price tags.  

 

I've also seen the attempts made by these corporatist groups to try and cut into the air mattress beds, and other mattresses types, that won't need replacement.  All types of ridiculous false claims.  Typical republican corruption trying to keep people hooked on bad products.  Don't fall for it.

 

Fourth, Sleep Number beds do  not have materials or space where bed bugs can nest.  The box springs are open on the bottom and all plastic, and the mattress is a sealed air chamber that is impenetrable. Unlike those old spring mattresses that have a closed, wooden box spring and a spring mattress that has so much cavity space between the coils..... you could hide money in them.(?)  (And people have)

 

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