dave886
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Another one exploads again, BOOOM!! is this a terrorist plot by candy or what?
Another one exploads again, BOOOM!!
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dj-gabriele
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I can't believe it!
If they don't take actions soon (and might be too late already) I don't know what's going to happen to the company! Very very sad!
If they don't take actions soon (and might be too late already) I don't know what's going to happen to the company! Very very sad!
Congratulations! you guys seriously bored?
This is actually the 5th thread about this case... well you actually made 2 same threads.. is there you know.. just as plan B? You maybe want me to make another one?
And which in 1st paragraph said that it has knewn of 3cases!!!!!
Really alot of threads sh*tting on Candy, without even a fair reason. I mean THIS is fair reason but for ***1*** thread, every other is REDICULOUS!
It isn"t rare? Do you know that Candy produces aprox2.5 milion machines per year... 3 machines in that is about one faulty on every 830.000 machines... anyway let"s NOT call it rare.
P.S
Did anyone wondered what is going on with Indesit company?
well ofcourse... answer is nobody. When I shared a video with a Hotpoint ultima WMD960 where drum started ripping apart (still not broken completely), some people even said it was SETUP... here"s the vid of an angry owner who made a sarcastic vid, but deffinatley with a true story (we are familiar with it).
Also do you know how many of I/H/A washing machines are going nuts?? I didn"t even saw ONE Candy there..
This is actually the 5th thread about this case... well you actually made 2 same threads.. is there you know.. just as plan B? You maybe want me to make another one?
And which in 1st paragraph said that it has knewn of 3cases!!!!!
Really alot of threads sh*tting on Candy, without even a fair reason. I mean THIS is fair reason but for ***1*** thread, every other is REDICULOUS!
It isn"t rare? Do you know that Candy produces aprox2.5 milion machines per year... 3 machines in that is about one faulty on every 830.000 machines... anyway let"s NOT call it rare.
P.S
Did anyone wondered what is going on with Indesit company?
well ofcourse... answer is nobody. When I shared a video with a Hotpoint ultima WMD960 where drum started ripping apart (still not broken completely), some people even said it was SETUP... here"s the vid of an angry owner who made a sarcastic vid, but deffinatley with a true story (we are familiar with it).
Also do you know how many of I/H/A washing machines are going nuts?? I didn"t even saw ONE Candy there..
3 machines
And 5 in Germany, that makes 8.
And 5 in Germany, that makes 8.
haxisfan
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So what?
Whether it's 5, 8, 10, or 20 is still a proportionally small number in relation the overall production as envisaged by the company. Does this pathetic saga has to repeat itself every time another failing sample is found?
Which? is searching high and low for these failing units, which is sadly more than can be said about Candy, as it's blatantly obvious that some more similarly failing machines bearing the faulty drum welds are going to be out there!
I would be baffled and perhaps more inclined to ridicule Candy/Hoover if they managed to find another similarly dangerous fault with these machines... but they keep referring to the same failing component over and over again... TBH this is getting tiresome!
It would be nice if the company got back to those potentially faulty models and annihilate them once and for all, but perhaps they didn't get track of which particular production line in that particular period of time was producing the faulty drum welds and getting back to them now might prove a tricky task. I'm just surmising anyway... but I believe that this matter is been blown out of proportion once again.
Whether it's 5, 8, 10, or 20 is still a proportionally small number in relation the overall production as envisaged by the company. Does this pathetic saga has to repeat itself every time another failing sample is found?
Which? is searching high and low for these failing units, which is sadly more than can be said about Candy, as it's blatantly obvious that some more similarly failing machines bearing the faulty drum welds are going to be out there!
I would be baffled and perhaps more inclined to ridicule Candy/Hoover if they managed to find another similarly dangerous fault with these machines... but they keep referring to the same failing component over and over again... TBH this is getting tiresome!
It would be nice if the company got back to those potentially faulty models and annihilate them once and for all, but perhaps they didn't get track of which particular production line in that particular period of time was producing the faulty drum welds and getting back to them now might prove a tricky task. I'm just surmising anyway... but I believe that this matter is been blown out of proportion once again.
solsburian
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I don't think it is being blown out of proportion at all, its not like its a water leak or a dodgy PCB, its a catastrophic failure that has real potential to cause serious harm.
If you are not happy with what's going on, then you need to blame Candy, not us!
If you are not happy with what's going on, then you need to blame Candy, not us!
dave886
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@nrones Don't get upset now; it sounds like you are.
i know you are a faithful candy lover but seems like when anyone ready to talk about candy your the one who's ready to defend their backs and then go on to talk about other companies its so not relevant (it's like your working for candy or something *cringes*), but im not taking any sides from those companies end of the day, i'm not a bias person (even though i never liked candy) but this is truly unacceptable from both companies, more care should of been taking into quality control, instead of cutting back on materials, you don't hear zanussi, bosch, lg and even BEKO! exploding? seriously (tell me if im wrong) its just a greedy companies who don't give an F about the customer safety and the machine lasting for decent amount of years, majority of these machines are built in poland with cheap labour cost to polish employees. for you information its a new thread a new case of candy exploding in england! i am not talking about the case in germany and if i was ever to make a new thread about the same problem that my problem not yours, and to that video, all that person should of done is brought an extended warranty lol then he wouldn't have to pay extra charges for repairs simple!, nothing clear as black and white no more, you need to do your research before you go ahead and buy a product
i know you are a faithful candy lover but seems like when anyone ready to talk about candy your the one who's ready to defend their backs and then go on to talk about other companies its so not relevant (it's like your working for candy or something *cringes*), but im not taking any sides from those companies end of the day, i'm not a bias person (even though i never liked candy) but this is truly unacceptable from both companies, more care should of been taking into quality control, instead of cutting back on materials, you don't hear zanussi, bosch, lg and even BEKO! exploding? seriously (tell me if im wrong) its just a greedy companies who don't give an F about the customer safety and the machine lasting for decent amount of years, majority of these machines are built in poland with cheap labour cost to polish employees. for you information its a new thread a new case of candy exploding in england! i am not talking about the case in germany and if i was ever to make a new thread about the same problem that my problem not yours, and to that video, all that person should of done is brought an extended warranty lol then he wouldn't have to pay extra charges for repairs simple!, nothing clear as black and white no more, you need to do your research before you go ahead and buy a product
aeg03
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I just hope that there is no incident where there is a small child near the machine when another one explodes. It is very poor.
Unable to understand??
Couldn"t you see I was blaming YOU not Candy?
I am constantly reading stuff about Candy, everything bad - and it it is so "unfair", people are just telling bad stugg about Candy just because they want Candy to be bad, and when they start "accusing it" it gets ridiculous... STOP IT PLEASE!
Here is an example.
Few years ago, when I came on here and YouTube, people were blaming Candy for having extreamly long cycles, even at low temperatures, and that their 2 rinses isn"t enough. Now, when Candy made a Time-manager function, and after that KGmode for reducing time NOBODY SAID something like "good job on that".
It turned out few months after that 2 rinses on Miele are perfect, and 2 rinses on Candy are still shame.
Or this thread few days ago with hoover "being noisy" on spin.. and in the video there was in 1 second unusual sound from a suspension that was "overloaded" when it distributed unbalanced.. it stopped, rebalanced, and spun perfectly quiet --- and again the whole thread made just to sh*t on Candy because of NOTHING - just like this thread... 6 threads made over 8 machines... but just Candy.. there wasn"t even one thread made for Indesit machines exploding..
It also turned out that Indesits 8 minutes of slow tumbling are deffinatley washing better than candy"s 17 minute of fast tumbling.. sorry, ENOUGH
WHY ARE YOU DOING IT??????? even telling that good reviews about their washers are invalid... are you ALONE in the world?? only your oppineon is right, every1"s wrong?? Maybe few guys on here found each other, so now what they make up it"s 100% true, even between washer puns there is quite a number of people that love Candy, but they aren"t as loud as those who hate it.
I mean Candy deffinatley isn"t the best, it had **SMALL (8)** faliures, quality could be better, but they are innovative, and their programmes are excellent, but it deffinatley IS NOT as bad as people could conclude when reading threads on here.
Couldn"t you see I was blaming YOU not Candy?
I am constantly reading stuff about Candy, everything bad - and it it is so "unfair", people are just telling bad stugg about Candy just because they want Candy to be bad, and when they start "accusing it" it gets ridiculous... STOP IT PLEASE!
Here is an example.
Few years ago, when I came on here and YouTube, people were blaming Candy for having extreamly long cycles, even at low temperatures, and that their 2 rinses isn"t enough. Now, when Candy made a Time-manager function, and after that KGmode for reducing time NOBODY SAID something like "good job on that".
It turned out few months after that 2 rinses on Miele are perfect, and 2 rinses on Candy are still shame.
Or this thread few days ago with hoover "being noisy" on spin.. and in the video there was in 1 second unusual sound from a suspension that was "overloaded" when it distributed unbalanced.. it stopped, rebalanced, and spun perfectly quiet --- and again the whole thread made just to sh*t on Candy because of NOTHING - just like this thread... 6 threads made over 8 machines... but just Candy.. there wasn"t even one thread made for Indesit machines exploding..
It also turned out that Indesits 8 minutes of slow tumbling are deffinatley washing better than candy"s 17 minute of fast tumbling.. sorry, ENOUGH
WHY ARE YOU DOING IT??????? even telling that good reviews about their washers are invalid... are you ALONE in the world?? only your oppineon is right, every1"s wrong?? Maybe few guys on here found each other, so now what they make up it"s 100% true, even between washer puns there is quite a number of people that love Candy, but they aren"t as loud as those who hate it.
I mean Candy deffinatley isn"t the best, it had **SMALL (8)** faliures, quality could be better, but they are innovative, and their programmes are excellent, but it deffinatley IS NOT as bad as people could conclude when reading threads on here.
hoover1100
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Unfair?
The way that Candy is playing down this issue and not making consumers aware that they may have a death trap in their homes is whats unfair!
The more threads discussing this issue, the more chance people will see it, the more notoriety these machines will have and the greater the pressure will be from the public to force Candy to accept this issue and go to greater lengths to make up for it and resolve it.
At the end of the day, we are free to discuss any brand of machine and any issue as much as we like, the vast majority of washer enthusiasts that I know would rate Candy very close to the bottom of their "favourite brands" list (most of the public I know wouldn't think too highly of them either). That is why there is a lot of negative discussion about their machines.
This general dislike of the brand is not based on "nothing" and the machines exploding is not a "small" fault.
Now please, calm down and lets discuss the topic of the thread rationally!
Matt
The way that Candy is playing down this issue and not making consumers aware that they may have a death trap in their homes is whats unfair!
The more threads discussing this issue, the more chance people will see it, the more notoriety these machines will have and the greater the pressure will be from the public to force Candy to accept this issue and go to greater lengths to make up for it and resolve it.
At the end of the day, we are free to discuss any brand of machine and any issue as much as we like, the vast majority of washer enthusiasts that I know would rate Candy very close to the bottom of their "favourite brands" list (most of the public I know wouldn't think too highly of them either). That is why there is a lot of negative discussion about their machines.
This general dislike of the brand is not based on "nothing" and the machines exploding is not a "small" fault.
Now please, calm down and lets discuss the topic of the thread rationally!
Matt
YES, unfair
Candy published it on their website, it was on TV, it is in Which, it is in Washer forums...
Just go ahead make these threads.. just remember 8! machines exploded, not 8000000...
Now please, you stop doing it. make another 10 threads about that... you guys are just UBELEVABLE.
It"s good that you think good of your self, and it"s good that you think you are right, rational etc... not to mention a HUGE non-respecting for other peoples oppineons or experience
That way, there is no discussing, there is support Matt or not. Everything is about You, and people you are sorrounded with.. if you did a proper research on the internet you would see bunch of people loving it.. oh now I remember, what those people wrote is so invalid, as they know nothing about washing machines..
Can you please where is logic that Mieles 2 rinses ARE enough, and Candy"s arent?
It"s fine, really fine, go ahead... let"s say Candy"s are made from sugar, and that they are dissolving in water... (because if YOU see them like that, I will end up as a crazy, or irreasonable one if I say they"re not) it"s fine really fine.. cause now I understand... AW forum is good...but for sharing pictures. :/
So don"t worry, I am deffinatley not going to reply, so you can freely tell and repeat 100 times all fairytales you already wrote about Candy, and make ridiculous comparations... and when you are doing be happy, and keep thinking that "At the end of the day, we are free to discuss any brand of machine and any issue as much as we like"
P.S
Thank god you can make 100 ridiculous threads, you will never make an influence on Candy, nobody is doing nothing specially on such worthless posts. You know.. just not to waste your time...
Candy published it on their website, it was on TV, it is in Which, it is in Washer forums...
Just go ahead make these threads.. just remember 8! machines exploded, not 8000000...
Now please, you stop doing it. make another 10 threads about that... you guys are just UBELEVABLE.
It"s good that you think good of your self, and it"s good that you think you are right, rational etc... not to mention a HUGE non-respecting for other peoples oppineons or experience
That way, there is no discussing, there is support Matt or not. Everything is about You, and people you are sorrounded with.. if you did a proper research on the internet you would see bunch of people loving it.. oh now I remember, what those people wrote is so invalid, as they know nothing about washing machines..
Can you please where is logic that Mieles 2 rinses ARE enough, and Candy"s arent?
It"s fine, really fine, go ahead... let"s say Candy"s are made from sugar, and that they are dissolving in water... (because if YOU see them like that, I will end up as a crazy, or irreasonable one if I say they"re not) it"s fine really fine.. cause now I understand... AW forum is good...but for sharing pictures. :/
So don"t worry, I am deffinatley not going to reply, so you can freely tell and repeat 100 times all fairytales you already wrote about Candy, and make ridiculous comparations... and when you are doing be happy, and keep thinking that "At the end of the day, we are free to discuss any brand of machine and any issue as much as we like"
P.S
Thank god you can make 100 ridiculous threads, you will never make an influence on Candy, nobody is doing nothing specially on such worthless posts. You know.. just not to waste your time...
hoover1100
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Can you please where is logic that Mieles 2 rinses ARE enou
Well 2 rinses is my Indesit are completely inadequate, because the spins are slower and shorter and the machine has no way of adding extra water or rinses if necessary. It also has almost no form of foam protection if the machine goes into sudslock during spin, it just stops and restarts or skips the spin.
My Mum's Miele rinses perfectly in 2 rinses because it is far more sophisticated and accurate in it's approach.
I guess when a small child is killed by flying shrapnel from a Candy machine exploding you'll be telling us it was their own stupid fault for being near the machine...
Matt
Well 2 rinses is my Indesit are completely inadequate, because the spins are slower and shorter and the machine has no way of adding extra water or rinses if necessary. It also has almost no form of foam protection if the machine goes into sudslock during spin, it just stops and restarts or skips the spin.
My Mum's Miele rinses perfectly in 2 rinses because it is far more sophisticated and accurate in it's approach.
I guess when a small child is killed by flying shrapnel from a Candy machine exploding you'll be telling us it was their own stupid fault for being near the machine...
Matt
streakers
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one word.....
Wow.
Wow.
haxisfan
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I also tend to believe there is no smoke without fire! I can see there is a general dissatisfaction with some Candy products for several reasons mostly in the UK and in some other European countries (we all know about Germany) and even some Italians show bitterness towards this brand.
But what I said earlier about this incident being blown out of proportion means just that... the media has a lot to do with it... when already some decades ago there was a BBC report on a Candy washer dryer setting itself on fire. What effect can all this have on people? On top of that there's the fact that there have been several changes in the appliance industry in general which are seen as almost offensive in an engineer's point of view, and the consumer alike that asked for the changes in the first place but was not happy with the results... and of course Candy is the scapegoat.
I mentioned several reasons, that's right... I can list some more naturally: some might deliberately put a spoke in the wheel, they might even be envious of the success of a family based company, which despites the odds stands for over 60 years: look at what happened to Hotpoint, Hoover UK, Zanussi, Servis, Brandt or even on the other side of the pond with Maytag, Hoover US, Bendix etc: they're all been taken over by bigger companies!
Some might even be hating their basic cheap models which lacks many options (easy occurrence in the UK where Candy dispenses their most basic models regardless of the spin speed... and this affects Hoover too to a smaller extent) that Joe Bloggs next door enjoys on theirs... forgetting the fact that they probably paid twice as much for them!
Some have been unfortunate enough to experience malfunctions or break downs, and then they've been brain washed by Joe Bloggs who always knew that their machine was a bad choice... although they really didn't have the faintest... but had seen enough negativity (no matter was the negativity was about). Also, the Candy/Hoover repair man didn't help by showing utter lack of interest or competence for that matter!
I could continue endlessly... but all this is to say... I feel we should wait to vent our feelings about Candy until there is another issue to add up to this or at least until a few more models have been affected rather then starting up a new chapter of malevolence as soon as one more machine shows up! This is inevitable, as I've mentioned in a previous thread, those faulty drum welds are out there now and they'll show up sooner or later... it's a bit to early at this stage to issue a guilt sentence: I'm sure Candy is dealing at least with those affected models found.
It would be a little consolation if Candy could issue a warning on their British website as they did in the German one. They did it with something else but not with the hazardous (probably not so hazardous according to Bolton council) washing machines... I wonder why!
But what I said earlier about this incident being blown out of proportion means just that... the media has a lot to do with it... when already some decades ago there was a BBC report on a Candy washer dryer setting itself on fire. What effect can all this have on people? On top of that there's the fact that there have been several changes in the appliance industry in general which are seen as almost offensive in an engineer's point of view, and the consumer alike that asked for the changes in the first place but was not happy with the results... and of course Candy is the scapegoat.
I mentioned several reasons, that's right... I can list some more naturally: some might deliberately put a spoke in the wheel, they might even be envious of the success of a family based company, which despites the odds stands for over 60 years: look at what happened to Hotpoint, Hoover UK, Zanussi, Servis, Brandt or even on the other side of the pond with Maytag, Hoover US, Bendix etc: they're all been taken over by bigger companies!
Some might even be hating their basic cheap models which lacks many options (easy occurrence in the UK where Candy dispenses their most basic models regardless of the spin speed... and this affects Hoover too to a smaller extent) that Joe Bloggs next door enjoys on theirs... forgetting the fact that they probably paid twice as much for them!
Some have been unfortunate enough to experience malfunctions or break downs, and then they've been brain washed by Joe Bloggs who always knew that their machine was a bad choice... although they really didn't have the faintest... but had seen enough negativity (no matter was the negativity was about). Also, the Candy/Hoover repair man didn't help by showing utter lack of interest or competence for that matter!
I could continue endlessly... but all this is to say... I feel we should wait to vent our feelings about Candy until there is another issue to add up to this or at least until a few more models have been affected rather then starting up a new chapter of malevolence as soon as one more machine shows up! This is inevitable, as I've mentioned in a previous thread, those faulty drum welds are out there now and they'll show up sooner or later... it's a bit to early at this stage to issue a guilt sentence: I'm sure Candy is dealing at least with those affected models found.
It would be a little consolation if Candy could issue a warning on their British website as they did in the German one. They did it with something else but not with the hazardous (probably not so hazardous according to Bolton council) washing machines... I wonder why!
Explosion?
I just wonder: what seems happening is that the welding of the drum tears apart when spinning. Let's assume that it happens "suddenly" (although not sure: I expect that a bad welding takes a little to tear apart, let's say a couple of seconds). The drum is enclosed in the tub, above it there is the concrete counterweight, below there is the floor, beside there are the sides of the cabinets.
I would have expected that the effect is something like a heavy imbalance: the welding breaks, the tub "opens" and hits the tub, and then the counterweight hits the top and causes the machine to break. Pieces of plastic everywhere. It's a quite curious sort of plastic: light, soft, poor quality to blame and shame the machine, but hard, sturdy, dangerous plastic when this is better to shame and blame the same machine. A prodigy of modern technology, I would dare say. Maybe the molecular structure changes when the machine explodes?
Yes, it looks awful, but reality is not what "looks" and not even what Which? writes: reality is what "is", instead. I am quite doubtful about the use of the term "explosion". Incidentally, it seems that the counterweight never get detached from the poor quality plastic tub. Explosion?
"Explosion"? Like a bomb? Or maybe like a cheap way to "produce" a "sensational news" for the first page of Which?
"Explosion" to say "You could die if don't buy Which? Subscribe now and save your life for just £ 1 with our exclusive offer!"
Just wondering...
I just wonder: what seems happening is that the welding of the drum tears apart when spinning. Let's assume that it happens "suddenly" (although not sure: I expect that a bad welding takes a little to tear apart, let's say a couple of seconds). The drum is enclosed in the tub, above it there is the concrete counterweight, below there is the floor, beside there are the sides of the cabinets.
I would have expected that the effect is something like a heavy imbalance: the welding breaks, the tub "opens" and hits the tub, and then the counterweight hits the top and causes the machine to break. Pieces of plastic everywhere. It's a quite curious sort of plastic: light, soft, poor quality to blame and shame the machine, but hard, sturdy, dangerous plastic when this is better to shame and blame the same machine. A prodigy of modern technology, I would dare say. Maybe the molecular structure changes when the machine explodes?
Yes, it looks awful, but reality is not what "looks" and not even what Which? writes: reality is what "is", instead. I am quite doubtful about the use of the term "explosion". Incidentally, it seems that the counterweight never get detached from the poor quality plastic tub. Explosion?
"Explosion"? Like a bomb? Or maybe like a cheap way to "produce" a "sensational news" for the first page of Which?
"Explosion" to say "You could die if don't buy Which? Subscribe now and save your life for just £ 1 with our exclusive offer!"
Just wondering...
pierreandreply4
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Just a tought
maybe it was a defective part in the washer that cause this and the candy washing machine company never sent a recall letter concerning that there could be a faulty part in the washer that would require a repair, in other words the candy washing machine company is not helping themeselves all of this might push customers away from there brand of washing machines and push consummers to go toward other brands like for exemple hotpoint or any other manufacturing company in the uk area. This is my tought on the matter at least because if this happen here in canada the company is oblige to send a recall letter to the customers buying this particular brand of washer, i bought for my mother the maytag neptune front load washer dryer set this set to be precise. and my mother was at her summer place and me i was looking on the maytag ws and saw that there was a recall for the washer and there never was a recall letter sent about a faulty part on the washer luckyly it was just concerning the electric plug that needed some sort safty plug now its fix.
maybe it was a defective part in the washer that cause this and the candy washing machine company never sent a recall letter concerning that there could be a faulty part in the washer that would require a repair, in other words the candy washing machine company is not helping themeselves all of this might push customers away from there brand of washing machines and push consummers to go toward other brands like for exemple hotpoint or any other manufacturing company in the uk area. This is my tought on the matter at least because if this happen here in canada the company is oblige to send a recall letter to the customers buying this particular brand of washer, i bought for my mother the maytag neptune front load washer dryer set this set to be precise. and my mother was at her summer place and me i was looking on the maytag ws and saw that there was a recall for the washer and there never was a recall letter sent about a faulty part on the washer luckyly it was just concerning the electric plug that needed some sort safty plug now its fix.
aeg03
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nrones
At the end of the day. If you don't like what you read then why view the post? You are not being forced to read it and post on it. If you like Candy - good for you. I am glad to hear that you are not having any problems with them. Other people are entitled to their opinion, that is what a forum is for!
I agree with Hoover1100 that members of the public need to be aware.
I feel that sometimes, it depends on luck. I have a french car and its never given me any major problems and I get stick from people for having a french car. I don't care. My next car will be a french car from the same Peugeot/Citroen group. So same for you, you like Candy so just don't take it personally. I like Electrolux group products and will buy one again, if not then a Miele but that's my choice some people won't like that but, oh well.
At the end of the day. If you don't like what you read then why view the post? You are not being forced to read it and post on it. If you like Candy - good for you. I am glad to hear that you are not having any problems with them. Other people are entitled to their opinion, that is what a forum is for!
I agree with Hoover1100 that members of the public need to be aware.
I feel that sometimes, it depends on luck. I have a french car and its never given me any major problems and I get stick from people for having a french car. I don't care. My next car will be a french car from the same Peugeot/Citroen group. So same for you, you like Candy so just don't take it personally. I like Electrolux group products and will buy one again, if not then a Miele but that's my choice some people won't like that but, oh well.
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I appreciated that here there was space for everyone.
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