danemodsandy
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Patrick:
I'm jealous as all hell. That is a HTF machine! Great find.
I'm jealous as all hell. That is a HTF machine! Great find.
Another Vintage KitchenAid Surfaces
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The heater should be energized during washing/rinsing, I believe. The lid doesn't pop open on it's own, I would think (hope) by 1964-68, this would have been seen as a scalding hazard and for safety reasons discontinued. The only porcelain on this machine is on the inside, but that enamel paint on the cabinet is mint! Congrats on a great save from the trash!
Greg-
Gee, I'd swear it was porcelain on the outside just by the way I was able to clean off some paint scuffs where it had banged up against cabinets with a razor blade and it didn't scratch a bit. Must be some really tough thick enamel then. Thanks for letting me know about the heater being energized. It makes sense. I too am glad I saved it from the trash.
Jon-
Just wait til you get here. There are many desirable machines available for very reasonable prices. You'll see!
Sandy-
I'll take that as a compliment. You really don't see these around any more do you. I remember when the soap dispenser refused to turn over in our GE Mobile Maid and a repairman came and told my mom she should by a new one. She did and I was thrilled we were getting a modern front loader. Little did I know the repairman said he'd take the old machine off our hands at no charge. Sneaky...
I'm still wondering what year this was made. I didn't see anything date stamped underneath. Maybe if I take the back panel off I'll find something.
Patrick
Gee, I'd swear it was porcelain on the outside just by the way I was able to clean off some paint scuffs where it had banged up against cabinets with a razor blade and it didn't scratch a bit. Must be some really tough thick enamel then. Thanks for letting me know about the heater being energized. It makes sense. I too am glad I saved it from the trash.
Jon-
Just wait til you get here. There are many desirable machines available for very reasonable prices. You'll see!
Sandy-
I'll take that as a compliment. You really don't see these around any more do you. I remember when the soap dispenser refused to turn over in our GE Mobile Maid and a repairman came and told my mom she should by a new one. She did and I was thrilled we were getting a modern front loader. Little did I know the repairman said he'd take the old machine off our hands at no charge. Sneaky...
I'm still wondering what year this was made. I didn't see anything date stamped underneath. Maybe if I take the back panel off I'll find something.
Patrick
danemodsandy
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Patrick:
"Sandy-
I'll take that as a compliment. You really don't see these around any more do you."</i>
Patrick:
What is especially neat about your find is that BOL machines of any description do not get saved the way more TOL stuff does. Most people can figure out that their old Rolls-Royce might be worth something someday. But they don't see that their old Rambler American is just as much worth saving for future generations. When a "budget" appliance survives, it gives much more information about the way people actually lived in a given era than the more expensive stuff does. Very few people today even REMEMBER top-loading dishwashers, let alone actually having seen one, let alone used one lately. Yet top-loaders were a very popular choice in their day- in fact, Sears took forever to offer front-loading portables.
I also find the quality of your machine to be very interesting. It's obvious- even in pictures- that this "budget" Electra was put together with all the care and high-quality materials that were found in KA's Superba VariCycle machines.
Congratulations- you are the custodian of something very special, and I am glad it's in appreciative hands.
"Sandy-
I'll take that as a compliment. You really don't see these around any more do you."</i>
Patrick:
What is especially neat about your find is that BOL machines of any description do not get saved the way more TOL stuff does. Most people can figure out that their old Rolls-Royce might be worth something someday. But they don't see that their old Rambler American is just as much worth saving for future generations. When a "budget" appliance survives, it gives much more information about the way people actually lived in a given era than the more expensive stuff does. Very few people today even REMEMBER top-loading dishwashers, let alone actually having seen one, let alone used one lately. Yet top-loaders were a very popular choice in their day- in fact, Sears took forever to offer front-loading portables.
I also find the quality of your machine to be very interesting. It's obvious- even in pictures- that this "budget" Electra was put together with all the care and high-quality materials that were found in KA's Superba VariCycle machines.
Congratulations- you are the custodian of something very special, and I am glad it's in appreciative hands.
selectomatic
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My family had one like this in white in the early '70s
I'm sure my mom bought it used at a garage sale, so I don't know how old it would be.
Yours is in great shape, and you really don't see these around anymore. An interesting machine, and it's cool that it still works.
-kevin
I'm sure my mom bought it used at a garage sale, so I don't know how old it would be.
Yours is in great shape, and you really don't see these around anymore. An interesting machine, and it's cool that it still works.
-kevin
fnelson487
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I Have This One!
It's in the garage. Makes me want to bring it in and run it. It is a great machine. It has silver trim around the body just above the Electra sign. KDE-5 as well.
It's in the garage. Makes me want to bring it in and run it. It is a great machine. It has silver trim around the body just above the Electra sign. KDE-5 as well.
fnelson487
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Inside
They are noisy, but clean well!
They are noisy, but clean well!
Fred-
Mine has a ridge in the metal where yours has the trim. Cool machine isn't it. They are fun to play with. I like the top on yours better than my faux bleached wood. It looks like it could easily be replaced too since the trim holding it in place is removable. Thanks for sharing your pictures.
Patrick
Mine has a ridge in the metal where yours has the trim. Cool machine isn't it. They are fun to play with. I like the top on yours better than my faux bleached wood. It looks like it could easily be replaced too since the trim holding it in place is removable. Thanks for sharing your pictures.
Patrick
fnelson487
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Patrick
Replacing the top was one of my first thoughts on my machine. It would be very easy.
Replacing the top was one of my first thoughts on my machine. It would be very easy.
fnelson487
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Patrick
I have the complete Service Manual on these machines. If you need any info, let me know.
I have the complete Service Manual on these machines. If you need any info, let me know.
Brent-Aucoin
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Wow!
Very good find!
And what a great price!!!
You are going to have loads of fun with this one!
The super part is that you can feel the sides of the dishwasher, and feel the water actually hitting the sides while running! Also, it gets hotter and hotter. You will be very pleased with the performace of this dishwasher!
Fred....get that Kitchenaid in your house and use it! Your Electra is beautiful! I would be using that dishwasher at least 2 times a week!
Steve, loved your history on the "Lockheed Electra Aircraft".
Brent
Very good find!
And what a great price!!!
You are going to have loads of fun with this one!
The super part is that you can feel the sides of the dishwasher, and feel the water actually hitting the sides while running! Also, it gets hotter and hotter. You will be very pleased with the performace of this dishwasher!
Fred....get that Kitchenaid in your house and use it! Your Electra is beautiful! I would be using that dishwasher at least 2 times a week!
Steve, loved your history on the "Lockheed Electra Aircraft".
Brent
Thanks Fred. I'll email you and would love to have some scans of the service manual.
I would like to see what it says about the soap dispenser as it doesn't seem to turn over on it's own.
That is it's only flaw.
Regarding the top, I can think of a lot of cool retro designs in Formica they have available again!
Patrick
I would like to see what it says about the soap dispenser as it doesn't seem to turn over on it's own.
That is it's only flaw.
Regarding the top, I can think of a lot of cool retro designs in Formica they have available again!
Patrick
Electra Aircraft
Steve, I too enjoyed reading about the Lockheed Electra. I grew up in a house barely a mile from the airport as the crow flies, and remember hearing the song of the Electras as they taxied for takeoff. These were the PSA Electras, and later the Air California fleet. They sounded so much more smooth and efficient than the rude roaring fan jets that were destined to replace them.
I can still hear the occassional distinctive sound of the Electras because I now live near the approach path to a federal airfield (used to be a naval air station) and the P-3 sub chasers still fly in there once in a while. That place used to house a huge fleet of them and they'd often circle around doing "touch & go" type maneuvers on a regular basis.
I never got to fly on an Electra and really wish I could have. I think I'd still remember the sights and sounds from a ride in one of those. I know they had problems early on with props going out of whack and wings snapping off, but once they fixed that they were quite reliable. Thanks again for the history lesson.
Oh, great dishwasher btw. Brings back memories of the absolute BOL Wards portable toploader that was the first dishwasher my parents bought. THAT is one BOL machine that was not worth saving, trust me. Where the KA Electra has lasted for decades, that Wards machine would have fallen apart in a fraction of the time. It was NOT built to last the way KA's were.
Ralph
Steve, I too enjoyed reading about the Lockheed Electra. I grew up in a house barely a mile from the airport as the crow flies, and remember hearing the song of the Electras as they taxied for takeoff. These were the PSA Electras, and later the Air California fleet. They sounded so much more smooth and efficient than the rude roaring fan jets that were destined to replace them.
I can still hear the occassional distinctive sound of the Electras because I now live near the approach path to a federal airfield (used to be a naval air station) and the P-3 sub chasers still fly in there once in a while. That place used to house a huge fleet of them and they'd often circle around doing "touch & go" type maneuvers on a regular basis.
I never got to fly on an Electra and really wish I could have. I think I'd still remember the sights and sounds from a ride in one of those. I know they had problems early on with props going out of whack and wings snapping off, but once they fixed that they were quite reliable. Thanks again for the history lesson.
Oh, great dishwasher btw. Brings back memories of the absolute BOL Wards portable toploader that was the first dishwasher my parents bought. THAT is one BOL machine that was not worth saving, trust me. Where the KA Electra has lasted for decades, that Wards machine would have fallen apart in a fraction of the time. It was NOT built to last the way KA's were.
Ralph
stevet
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Electra portables
That unit was mechanically based on the 15 series dishwashers which can put it in the 1964-1967 range of original production and yet shared some of the features of the previous generation of KA portables like the 10 thru 14 portables, most notably, the flo thru drying unit. I would imagine that the heating element was in use during the dry cycle as there was no place to mount the older style heating element under the unit like on the 10-14 machines.It probably cycles on and off, but I unfortunately tossed my old service manuals for that line. I only have the ones for the built ins not this style of portables. But they were fantastic machines.. No doubt they washed well, a full 1/2 hp pump pumping like 600 gals an hour thru a single washarm.. I bet it still turns cups upside down in the top rack!
That unit was mechanically based on the 15 series dishwashers which can put it in the 1964-1967 range of original production and yet shared some of the features of the previous generation of KA portables like the 10 thru 14 portables, most notably, the flo thru drying unit. I would imagine that the heating element was in use during the dry cycle as there was no place to mount the older style heating element under the unit like on the 10-14 machines.It probably cycles on and off, but I unfortunately tossed my old service manuals for that line. I only have the ones for the built ins not this style of portables. But they were fantastic machines.. No doubt they washed well, a full 1/2 hp pump pumping like 600 gals an hour thru a single washarm.. I bet it still turns cups upside down in the top rack!
laundromat
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I will bet you they either didn't hook it up to the faucet or forgot to turn the water on once it was connected.I gave that model away to a friend with 7 children back in 1998.P found it on a jink truck.It is still running 2 and 3 times a day.
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This looks like the 15 series brochure in the other thread.. I would honestly have BOL or MOL vintage stuff.. More classic and worth more to me. Not that a Vintage Lady would be turned down... Or a Vintage Filter Flo.. But i probably wouldnt take a TOL Frigidaire or anything.. Would never use all the buttons
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Very good point Sandy "Danemodsandy". I so agree with you.
Western Airlines ran the Lockheed electras on their route from Rapid City to Minneapolis St-Paul during the 60's into the early 70's.I used to ride those-IT WAS GREAT FUN!!You felt like you were really flying.And when the plane flew over the Badlands-The pilot circled and dipped the wings so everyone could get a look.The takeoffs and landings on these was FUN!then the electras were replaced by 737's.No more fun airline flights-gotr boring.Turboprop and prop planes to me are almost like steam engine locomotives for trains.The flight that I rode stopped in Aberdeen,Peirre,Soux Falls on its way to Minneapolis.
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