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"I am no fan of 'Espresso Machines'.......

Well I have to say that is my preferred way to make coffee every morning. I use a 20+ year old Saeco machine with really good imported Italian beans and it is delicious on its own, with steamed milk and/or foam, or over ice (with or with out milk). The key is finding a coffee that is not burnt (as is Starbucks). The beans imported from Italy do the trick ( Illy is nice, but super expensive. We prefer Cafe Bristot which works well in both the Saecco and Scott's french presss (his morning preference).
 
LOL! I forgot about the car and thought about the U-turn and the kissing.

They were trying to sell the Fiat? I'm Italian, she's not -

fate l'amore non la guerra! . Keep the family outta dah coffee. :-) Gracia!
 
>Back in the day Silex made a small vac pot system (stove top) for those making just one or two cups. You can make similar amounts in a Moka pot, French Press, smaller automatic drip machines, and yes even those old self pour Melitta coffee drip jobs. Ok so you have some washing up to do, much of it can go into the dishwasher or it is just a quick rinse and swish then into the dish drainer/dryer.

I've made small quantities of coffee just about 100% of the time for nearly 20 years now. The last big pot I made probably would--if still around--be old enough to vote now. And it might be able to make better, more informed decisions than some people I know...but we won't go there.

I've often used single serving type makers, either ones that park on top of the cup to make one cup of drip coffee. I also have used (and am using right now) a small French press pot. It's a bit more work than a Keurig, I suppose. Certainly a bit more than a small electric drip maker, used with paper filters. But it's not like making croissants from scratch using a Julia Child recipe, either. And at times, these manual systems have been well worth it. Even quickly made cup of coffee with one could end up being better than one small electric drip maker I used ca. 2000.
 
@miele_ge

The burnt coffee is a big part of the problem; even at small "mum and pop" stores that are dotted all over the show, not just the franchises.

I think the temperatures involved may be an issue too, and the fact that the commercial machines might be designed more for hard-usage and dual functionality, rather than matching the temperatures to the purpose.

And despite only using that "Supermarket" pre-ground stuff in a vacuumed pouch, I found only one brand (that is Robert Timms, either "Mocha Kenya" or "Royal Special") is the only coffee that isn't ground to dust, roasted into "ashtray-flavoured" or otherwise vile-tasting garbage.
It has a nice taste, and is quite a light brown colour, compared to practically anything else I've ever seen.

Interestingly, the Robert Timms stuff must be rebadged, as in Norway, the store-brand coffee at "Meny" supermarket appeared, smelled and tasted exactly the same. Add in the aforementioned Moccamaster, and I was in heaven for those couple of weeks.

At some point, I'll actually bother to spend the time and find a really good bean, a real grinder and use the press to its full potential... But until then, the pre-ground stuff I drink tastes good, to me, and moves quickly enough that it doesn't loose its flavour.
 
* BISCUITS!!!! ROLLS!!!!

To me, McDonald's <span class="algo-summary">McCafé </span><span class="algo-summary">is trading on its coffee (as opposed to its French Fries or Hamburgers) the way Red Lobster is marketing its Cheddar Bay*...!
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But, I do find myself buying a certain flavor of Dunkin Donuts joe...!

 

 

 

<span class="algo-summary">-- Dave</span>
 
As pointed out upthread by various people, it can be difficult to rationalize using K-cups.

1) Expense: The brewer itself is spendy, accompanied by reams of user reviews complaining of short lifespan. A K-cup costs $.50-$1.00. By contrast, a cup of coffee made from bagged beans or pre-ground costs a fraction of that.

2) Waste: Despite on-the-horizon reassurances from several companies, nearly all K-cups are still not recyclable.

3) Quality of Brew: Does a Keurig-brewed cup of, say, Caribou French roast taste as rich and nuanced as one brewed with a Technivorm Moccamaster? No it does not. The 2.0 model K550 (shown) has a 'Strong' setting, which improves the brew, but it still falls short of the gold standard.

Keurig's primary hook, of course, is convenience. Pop in a K-cup, press a button, then toss the pod. It just doesn't get easier than that.

Almost as important is the seemingly infinite selection. I keep 4 different decafs, 6-8 regular varieties, a few flavored coffees, a half-dozen teas, hot cocoa, hot apple cider, and lemonade on hand at home and work. A coworker, who is a regular in my office, says "It's like being a kid in a candy store!" It's fun to choose different coffees during the day. I generally start out with a dark roast, followed by a decaf or two, a medium or light roast mid-afternoon, then another decaf or half-caff in the evening. Plus iced tea.

I don't foresee returning to traditional brewing methods.

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Launderess-- Thanks for the 'Backseat Italians' video. Growing up with an Italian mother (from Veroli), all I can say is that the truth is sometimes painful, LOL!

More Coffee News:

Hugh Jackman's new coffee line 'Laughing Man' is available from Keurig's site. The link includes videos of Laughing Man's story. There are several varieties; I chose Dukale's Blend and it is awesome. It's very rich, with a complex flavor that's nicely balanced. The K-cup is heavier than most, indicating it contains more ground coffee than the average pod.

Am looking forward to sampling some of the other blends.

Aside: You'll notice 'Keurig Hot' on the packaging. The company is launching a 'Kold' machine soon that makes Coke (and other sodas), iced tea and other beverages without ice. Initial information states it makes only an 8-oz. portion. Not interested, really; I'll buy Coke at the grocery store and brew iced tea with my 2.0 K550. At any rate, curious to find out if it turns out to be a sales hit or miss for Keurig. My hunch is it will be a miss. Americans are not used to Coke portioned at only 8-oz., which reminds one of the small bottles of the 1950s-early '60s.[this post was last edited: 6/24/2015-05:30]


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It's all about our taste I guess

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">I am a coffee snob.  There I said it!  I am no longer in the coffee closet.  I have just about every style coffeemaker known to the modern man except the new Chemex Ottomatic (which is on my list when the price comes down).  Pause for all too bitch (including my partner who will start the rant) about the price and the this and the that but it's my thing.  The bitching will just drive me harder into it.  I love coffee!!  I drink it all day long.  I drink it hot, cold, with steamed milk, black.  I'm up half the night at times probably because of the caffeine that has replaced the blood in my veins.  It's not uncommon for me to fire up the Nespresso at 10PM for nightcap!</span>

 

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">I have a drum style coffee roaster and when the mood strikes I get out the green beans and roast what I'll use for the week.  I have multiple coffee grinders but my favorites are the Breville Smart Grinder and the MoccasMaster Grinder. </span>

 

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">I have probably a few hundred coffee cups, mugs, the clear insulated glass mugs for specialty drinks, I really could open a friggin' coffee shop in my house.</span>

 

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">So I have all this and I really spend time in the morning brewing a beautiful pot of coffee and my partner says to me, "Will you PLEASE leave the Keurig on the counter and get me a pound of Folgers?"  OY!!  His preference is the disposable K-Cup and Folgers or Maxwell House with artificial sweetener and some flavored cream.  So I guess at the end of the day it's all about taste.  I love him even though he has awful taste in coffee.  <span style="font-size: 8pt;">Chachie ducks and runs!</span></span>

 

<span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: 8pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Oh yeah, the original question -- Dunkin' Donuts' Original roast beans when I don't have any of my own roasted.  Sorry I guess I got off on a rant of my own.</span></span></span>
 
I was about to take umbrage but Frigilux's comment on Bustelo's 'standing up to cream' provided an appreciated reality check. I do NOT make Bustelo in any kind of espresso maker. Everyone I know who uses it regularly makes it like 'regular' coffee (straight or mixed with a non-espressso coffee) and cream is usually added (always, in my case). This might explain why I have a somewhat different opinion.

Thanks for the link for Moka d'Oro purchases. I'll check it out and read the comments above over the next few days.

Sorry for the delay in responding, on top of extra freelance work I've been providing background support for the Mr. Washington in the WSJ article (linked below) so he could better attend to his part in lectures and tours accompanying the revival of Voodoo. A link to the Guardian's review is also attached.

Jim


 
Jim-- OH MY GOD, there's going to be a revival of Freeman's opera 'Voodoo'? That's awesome! How did I not know about this? It's an injustice that his work remains unrecorded, and for the most part, unpublished. I hope this sparks interest in his work and that 'Voodoo', at least, gets a shot at being recorded. Harry Freeman's arc as a composer reminds me a bit of Charles Ives, who, but for the grace of posthumous discovery would probably have lapsed into obscurity, as well. Ives worked in life insurance until he retired, composing in his spare time. It's interesting that both Freeman and Ives died of heart problems within a couple of months of each other.

I would LOVE to hear 'Voodoo' performed live!

Coffee: My curiosity has been piqued; I'll have to include Bustelo in my next K-cup order.

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I saw it Friday night. I thought it was good, but I'm hardly the best judge of anything music-related and I rarely understand more than half the words of any song. There're also a NYT review and an NPR article out since the show.

 

I got the impression over the weekend that quite a few of Freeman's boxes have yet to be catalogued so who knows what may be found.

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Much as I enjoyed myself, I was at a bit of a disadvantage over the weekend. It was sort of like being in Willie Wonka's chocolate factory but without Willie Wonka to explain anything.

 

I'm completely tone deaf

I have NO sense of rhythm whatsoever.... and I do mean zero.

I never had any exposure to anything music related growing up. There was music class in school, but that consisted mostly of getting screamed at for reasons I never did figure out. Although I do recall the teacher blasting the same note over and over again on a pitch pipe and insisting they were different. 

 

Dancing is even worse:

I have no depth perception

I can mirror really well, but I can't flip. You show me right-handed? I do it left-handed.

I have an aversion to crossing mid-line. Left hand does things on the left, right hand on the right.

 

Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the thread. My point is that even though beyond ill-equipped to understand anything going on, I still enjoyed Voodoo.

 

Jim

 

 

 
 
I like a good cup of coffee, esp. in the morning and early evening after dinner. I've never heard of some of the brands mentioned here on this post, I guess they are hard to find here in Texas. If HEB or Wal-Mart doesn't carry them then I guess I'm out of luck. Anyway, I don't care too much to McDonalds coffee. I do like the Dunkin Donuts brand though, I think it goes amazingly well with their donuts. ( I do like their donuts, they don't seem as sweet as other companies.) But it can be a hit or miss with Dunkin, I have gone into their store and gotten a bad cup but not all the time, guess it depends who's working the shift.
 

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